Anonymous
06/29/2021 15:07
Subject: Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Mike
You were a coach for Cavs. Then you left. You were a coach at STARS. Then you left. Now you're at YJ?
You move clubs after parents and families complain about you from the sideline and you go to where you can build a team around your daughter and do what you want.
Lots of parent coaches at this club and their daughters are on the team.
Liz Case, Director, wanted people to buy her club. She contacted several other clubs before YJ said yes.
Just know before you buy. Slapping a club logo on a previous program doesn't really mean much.
You were a coach for Cavs. Then you left. You were a coach at STARS. Then you left. Now you're at YJ?
You move clubs after parents and families complain about you from the sideline and you go to where you can build a team around your daughter and do what you want.
Lots of parent coaches at this club and their daughters are on the team.
Liz Case, Director, wanted people to buy her club. She contacted several other clubs before YJ said yes.
Just know before you buy. Slapping a club logo on a previous program doesn't really mean much.
Anonymous wrote:Vitriol is right, wow!
I am happy to share my experience with northern Virginia lacrosse and hope it helps someone.
First, no program is perfect. I am not perfect as a coach or as a person. And frankly their are toxic parents too.
I have two daughters who have played Dulles South Lacrosse, rec league in Ashburn/Brambleton area.
My 2025 daughter has played 2 years at a developing program in Loudoun at the time. She learned a lot and made great friends. And to be transparent I and a friend of mine coached the team and it was a 25/26 blend at the time.
My 25 daughter then tried out for some of the more established programs and chose one out of Alexandria. I paid for what I hoped to be excellent coaching. A couple of college graduated lacrosse players were the coaches. New in to the job market and the traffic we all know and love makes it difficult logistically. So they were unable to consistently coach, get to know the girls and improve them as a team, much less focus on individual player improvement. Since I was there as the Dad volunteer, I was asked to head coach the team their 6th grade year. I am so proud of the girls on that team and we improved as a team and they did as individuals too.
My 25 was at the same program for 7th grade and I was a dad but also coached the other team that needed help coaching. My daughter did not advance nor develop and after that year we decided to go to a program after we worked with the Director M-W-F during last March thru May. The Director, Liz Case worked with the 4 girls she trained who improved significantly.
So we decided to continue to work with this Director and move to her program called the Rattlers and are now the Mid-Atlantic Yellow Jackets. My 2025 and 2027 play with a really great bunch of girls and look forward to continuing as Yellow Jackets. My 2025 has improved more as a player in 8 months with Liza and other great coaches then she did with her previous program in 2 years.
The YJs investment in our girls is second to none.
My 2027 has recently returned to lacrosse and just had a blast at the Summer Genesis tournament. Great kids and positive parents.
The grass is not always greener. Children develop on their timeline and as much as they are willing to work (on the rebounder outside of practice).
Both of my daughter enjoy playing, they are seeing improvement and success and the are having fun. I am so proud of them!
Yellow Jacket tryouts are 7/14/2021 click link below to learn about some exciting special guests from the National Champions who will be running a clinic between the tryout sessions.
The website to learn more: https://www.yjmidatlantic.com
Coach Mike Conner
P.S. - I would be happy to have a conversation if anyone would like to learn more.
Anonymous
06/29/2021 13:59
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First time poster here. Stumbled upon this forum. Have a daughter that has played rec and has typical been one of stronger players (coaches words not mine). Not in MS yet and looking for a club with a strong youth program. I’ve read a bunch of threads on this site and all of them seem to bash all the clubs. We have friends in LI who recommended the yellow jacket organization. So my question is: does this club, 1) have a strong youth program with decent teams? 2) what about coaches (website doesn’t offer up a whole lot and we have been told many clubs don’t keep coach pages up to date? 3) if you had a youth daughter what program would you consider?
Thanks for any insight
You are not going to get an informative answer from anonymous internet trolls that talk bad about other programs 247. Dcurbanmom forums are full of vitriol for one reason or another. I would just contact the club directly and see what they have to offer so you can make an informed decision.
Since this is the YJMA director commenting, I bet any questions can be answered here!
Nope, not associated with the program at all. Just letting them know that the vitriol comments from anonymous trolls aren’t informative to anyone. In the end you’re just bashing a program that young girls are a part of.
What can be conceived as bashing is actually truth shared by many posters here. The club director is taking money from those young girls/families based on false promises and lies. The club has to continually go to other clubs just to get enough players to field a team in tourneys and then the actual YJMA girls on the team don't even play. Troll or no troll, that is the truth.
Anyone who has common sense can see the BS listed here.
MAYJ don't have enough to field a team but also YJ players can't get on the field and don't get to play because of guests? Well, which one is it?
You need more than a starting lineup to play a tournament. If your daughter comes out of a game and a guest player goes in, what exactly is the problem?
I saw the MAYJ 27 team play in Hershey this weekend, they didn't have a lot of subs, they played hard, won a few games. Looked like they were all enjoying it, on and off the field.
To spell it out for some, the YJMA 27 team is comprised of 28s and 27s. There still isn't enough to field a full roster in the recent tournaments and as a result, they have had to include other players from other clubs, i.e. YJS, etc. Come game time, the actual YJMA players get barely if any playing time as the "guests" play the whole game along with a few starters on YJMA. What's not to understand?
Glad they had a good tourney! Out of curiosity what division are they playing in? How are they doing against M&D, Hero's, Skywalkers, Pride, Crush, NL, MCE, MDU etc?
They can't compete with those clubs you just named, neither can Stars.
What parent would continue to play on a club that has so many "guests" that the original members don't play? That's so out of the realm of reality.
Yes, they have 27/28 girls on that team, again, they need guests to field a team to play in tournaments, not uncommon for new club teams.
Anonymous
06/29/2021 13:19
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First time poster here. Stumbled upon this forum. Have a daughter that has played rec and has typical been one of stronger players (coaches words not mine). Not in MS yet and looking for a club with a strong youth program. I’ve read a bunch of threads on this site and all of them seem to bash all the clubs. We have friends in LI who recommended the yellow jacket organization. So my question is: does this club, 1) have a strong youth program with decent teams? 2) what about coaches (website doesn’t offer up a whole lot and we have been told many clubs don’t keep coach pages up to date? 3) if you had a youth daughter what program would you consider?
Thanks for any insight
You are not going to get an informative answer from anonymous internet trolls that talk bad about other programs 247. Dcurbanmom forums are full of vitriol for one reason or another. I would just contact the club directly and see what they have to offer so you can make an informed decision.
Since this is the YJMA director commenting, I bet any questions can be answered here!
Nope, not associated with the program at all. Just letting them know that the vitriol comments from anonymous trolls aren’t informative to anyone. In the end you’re just bashing a program that young girls are a part of.
What can be conceived as bashing is actually truth shared by many posters here. The club director is taking money from those young girls/families based on false promises and lies. The club has to continually go to other clubs just to get enough players to field a team in tourneys and then the actual YJMA girls on the team don't even play. Troll or no troll, that is the truth.
Anyone who has common sense can see the BS listed here.
MAYJ don't have enough to field a team but also YJ players can't get on the field and don't get to play because of guests? Well, which one is it?
You need more than a starting lineup to play a tournament. If your daughter comes out of a game and a guest player goes in, what exactly is the problem?
I saw the MAYJ 27 team play in Hershey this weekend, they didn't have a lot of subs, they played hard, won a few games. Looked like they were all enjoying it, on and off the field.
To spell it out for some, the YJMA 27 team is comprised of 28s and 27s. There still isn't enough to field a full roster in the recent tournaments and as a result, they have had to include other players from other clubs, i.e. YJS, etc. Come game time, the actual YJMA players get barely if any playing time as the "guests" play the whole game along with a few starters on YJMA. What's not to understand?
Glad they had a good tourney! Out of curiosity what division are they playing in? How are they doing against M&D, Hero's, Skywalkers, Pride, Crush, NL, MCE, MDU etc?
Anonymous
06/29/2021 13:14
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Right, anonymous troll bashing should be taken as truth. Sounds about right by dcurbanmom standards.
But seriously, parents and their daughters should talk directly to all clubs in the area and make the best decision for their family based off their own priorities, not from an anonymous troll.
But seriously, parents and their daughters should talk directly to all clubs in the area and make the best decision for their family based off their own priorities, not from an anonymous troll.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First time poster here. Stumbled upon this forum. Have a daughter that has played rec and has typical been one of stronger players (coaches words not mine). Not in MS yet and looking for a club with a strong youth program. I’ve read a bunch of threads on this site and all of them seem to bash all the clubs. We have friends in LI who recommended the yellow jacket organization. So my question is: does this club, 1) have a strong youth program with decent teams? 2) what about coaches (website doesn’t offer up a whole lot and we have been told many clubs don’t keep coach pages up to date? 3) if you had a youth daughter what program would you consider?
Thanks for any insight
You are not going to get an informative answer from anonymous internet trolls that talk bad about other programs 247. Dcurbanmom forums are full of vitriol for one reason or another. I would just contact the club directly and see what they have to offer so you can make an informed decision.
Since this is the YJMA director commenting, I bet any questions can be answered here!
Nope, not associated with the program at all. Just letting them know that the vitriol comments from anonymous trolls aren’t informative to anyone. In the end you’re just bashing a program that young girls are a part of.
What can be conceived as bashing is actually truth shared by many posters here. The club director is taking money from those young girls/families based on false promises and lies. The club has to continually go to other clubs just to get enough players to field a team in tourneys and then the actual YJMA girls on the team don't even play. Troll or no troll, that is the truth.
Anonymous
06/29/2021 12:07
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First time poster here. Stumbled upon this forum. Have a daughter that has played rec and has typical been one of stronger players (coaches words not mine). Not in MS yet and looking for a club with a strong youth program. I’ve read a bunch of threads on this site and all of them seem to bash all the clubs. We have friends in LI who recommended the yellow jacket organization. So my question is: does this club, 1) have a strong youth program with decent teams? 2) what about coaches (website doesn’t offer up a whole lot and we have been told many clubs don’t keep coach pages up to date? 3) if you had a youth daughter what program would you consider?
Thanks for any insight
You are not going to get an informative answer from anonymous internet trolls that talk bad about other programs 247. Dcurbanmom forums are full of vitriol for one reason or another. I would just contact the club directly and see what they have to offer so you can make an informed decision.
Since this is the YJMA director commenting, I bet any questions can be answered here!
Nope, not associated with the program at all. Just letting them know that the vitriol comments from anonymous trolls aren’t informative to anyone. In the end you’re just bashing a program that young girls are a part of.
What can be conceived as bashing is actually truth shared by many posters here. The club director is taking money from those young girls/families based on false promises and lies. The club has to continually go to other clubs just to get enough players to field a team in tourneys and then the actual YJMA girls on the team don't even play. Troll or no troll, that is the truth.
Anyone who has common sense can see the BS listed here.
MAYJ don't have enough to field a team but also YJ players can't get on the field and don't get to play because of guests? Well, which one is it?
You need more than a starting lineup to play a tournament. If your daughter comes out of a game and a guest player goes in, what exactly is the problem?
I saw the MAYJ 27 team play in Hershey this weekend, they didn't have a lot of subs, they played hard, won a few games. Looked like they were all enjoying it, on and off the field.
Anonymous
06/29/2021 11:27
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First time poster here. Stumbled upon this forum. Have a daughter that has played rec and has typical been one of stronger players (coaches words not mine). Not in MS yet and looking for a club with a strong youth program. I’ve read a bunch of threads on this site and all of them seem to bash all the clubs. We have friends in LI who recommended the yellow jacket organization. So my question is: does this club, 1) have a strong youth program with decent teams? 2) what about coaches (website doesn’t offer up a whole lot and we have been told many clubs don’t keep coach pages up to date? 3) if you had a youth daughter what program would you consider?
Thanks for any insight
You are not going to get an informative answer from anonymous internet trolls that talk bad about other programs 247. Dcurbanmom forums are full of vitriol for one reason or another. I would just contact the club directly and see what they have to offer so you can make an informed decision.
Since this is the YJMA director commenting, I bet any questions can be answered here!
Nope, not associated with the program at all. Just letting them know that the vitriol comments from anonymous trolls aren’t informative to anyone. In the end you’re just bashing a program that young girls are a part of.
What can be conceived as bashing is actually truth shared by many posters here. The club director is taking money from those young girls/families based on false promises and lies. The club has to continually go to other clubs just to get enough players to field a team in tourneys and then the actual YJMA girls on the team don't even play. Troll or no troll, that is the truth.
Anonymous
06/29/2021 11:26
Subject: Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Vitriol is right, wow!
I am happy to share my experience with northern Virginia lacrosse and hope it helps someone.
First, no program is perfect. I am not perfect as a coach or as a person. And frankly their are toxic parents too.
I have two daughters who have played Dulles South Lacrosse, rec league in Ashburn/Brambleton area.
My 2025 daughter has played 2 years at a developing program in Loudoun at the time. She learned a lot and made great friends. And to be transparent I and a friend of mine coached the team and it was a 25/26 blend at the time.
My 25 daughter then tried out for some of the more established programs and chose one out of Alexandria. I paid for what I hoped to be excellent coaching. A couple of college graduated lacrosse players were the coaches. New in to the job market and the traffic we all know and love makes it difficult logistically. So they were unable to consistently coach, get to know the girls and improve them as a team, much less focus on individual player improvement. Since I was there as the Dad volunteer, I was asked to head coach the team their 6th grade year. I am so proud of the girls on that team and we improved as a team and they did as individuals too.
My 25 was at the same program for 7th grade and I was a dad but also coached the other team that needed help coaching. My daughter did not advance nor develop and after that year we decided to go to a program after we worked with the Director M-W-F during last March thru May. The Director, Liz Case worked with the 4 girls she trained who improved significantly.
So we decided to continue to work with this Director and move to her program called the Rattlers and are now the Mid-Atlantic Yellow Jackets. My 2025 and 2027 play with a really great bunch of girls and look forward to continuing as Yellow Jackets. My 2025 has improved more as a player in 8 months with Liza and other great coaches then she did with her previous program in 2 years.
The YJs investment in our girls is second to none.
My 2027 has recently returned to lacrosse and just had a blast at the Summer Genesis tournament. Great kids and positive parents.
The grass is not always greener. Children develop on their timeline and as much as they are willing to work (on the rebounder outside of practice).
Both of my daughter enjoy playing, they are seeing improvement and success and the are having fun. I am so proud of them!
Yellow Jacket tryouts are 7/14/2021 click link below to learn about some exciting special guests from the National Champions who will be running a clinic between the tryout sessions.
The website to learn more: https://www.yjmidatlantic.com
Coach Mike Conner
P.S. - I would be happy to have a conversation if anyone would like to learn more.
I am happy to share my experience with northern Virginia lacrosse and hope it helps someone.
First, no program is perfect. I am not perfect as a coach or as a person. And frankly their are toxic parents too.
I have two daughters who have played Dulles South Lacrosse, rec league in Ashburn/Brambleton area.
My 2025 daughter has played 2 years at a developing program in Loudoun at the time. She learned a lot and made great friends. And to be transparent I and a friend of mine coached the team and it was a 25/26 blend at the time.
My 25 daughter then tried out for some of the more established programs and chose one out of Alexandria. I paid for what I hoped to be excellent coaching. A couple of college graduated lacrosse players were the coaches. New in to the job market and the traffic we all know and love makes it difficult logistically. So they were unable to consistently coach, get to know the girls and improve them as a team, much less focus on individual player improvement. Since I was there as the Dad volunteer, I was asked to head coach the team their 6th grade year. I am so proud of the girls on that team and we improved as a team and they did as individuals too.
My 25 was at the same program for 7th grade and I was a dad but also coached the other team that needed help coaching. My daughter did not advance nor develop and after that year we decided to go to a program after we worked with the Director M-W-F during last March thru May. The Director, Liz Case worked with the 4 girls she trained who improved significantly.
So we decided to continue to work with this Director and move to her program called the Rattlers and are now the Mid-Atlantic Yellow Jackets. My 2025 and 2027 play with a really great bunch of girls and look forward to continuing as Yellow Jackets. My 2025 has improved more as a player in 8 months with Liza and other great coaches then she did with her previous program in 2 years.
The YJs investment in our girls is second to none.
My 2027 has recently returned to lacrosse and just had a blast at the Summer Genesis tournament. Great kids and positive parents.
The grass is not always greener. Children develop on their timeline and as much as they are willing to work (on the rebounder outside of practice).
Both of my daughter enjoy playing, they are seeing improvement and success and the are having fun. I am so proud of them!
Yellow Jacket tryouts are 7/14/2021 click link below to learn about some exciting special guests from the National Champions who will be running a clinic between the tryout sessions.
The website to learn more: https://www.yjmidatlantic.com
Coach Mike Conner
P.S. - I would be happy to have a conversation if anyone would like to learn more.
Anonymous
06/29/2021 09:58
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First time poster here. Stumbled upon this forum. Have a daughter that has played rec and has typical been one of stronger players (coaches words not mine). Not in MS yet and looking for a club with a strong youth program. I’ve read a bunch of threads on this site and all of them seem to bash all the clubs. We have friends in LI who recommended the yellow jacket organization. So my question is: does this club, 1) have a strong youth program with decent teams? 2) what about coaches (website doesn’t offer up a whole lot and we have been told many clubs don’t keep coach pages up to date? 3) if you had a youth daughter what program would you consider?
Thanks for any insight
You are not going to get an informative answer from anonymous internet trolls that talk bad about other programs 247. Dcurbanmom forums are full of vitriol for one reason or another. I would just contact the club directly and see what they have to offer so you can make an informed decision.
Since this is the YJMA director commenting, I bet any questions can be answered here!
Nope, not associated with the program at all. Just letting them know that the vitriol comments from anonymous trolls aren’t informative to anyone. In the end you’re just bashing a program that young girls are a part of.
Anonymous
06/29/2021 07:34
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:First time poster here. Stumbled upon this forum. Have a daughter that has played rec and has typical been one of stronger players (coaches words not mine). Not in MS yet and looking for a club with a strong youth program. I’ve read a bunch of threads on this site and all of them seem to bash all the clubs. We have friends in LI who recommended the yellow jacket organization. So my question is: does this club, 1) have a strong youth program with decent teams? 2) what about coaches (website doesn’t offer up a whole lot and we have been told many clubs don’t keep coach pages up to date? 3) if you had a youth daughter what program would you consider?
Thanks for any insight
You are not going to get an informative answer from anonymous internet trolls that talk bad about other programs 247. Dcurbanmom forums are full of vitriol for one reason or another. I would just contact the club directly and see what they have to offer so you can make an informed decision.
Since this is the YJMA director commenting, I bet any questions can be answered here!
Anonymous
06/29/2021 00:27
Subject: Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
No. Do not go to this club. Have your daughter try out for Stars or Pride. Only two truly well known and reputable clubs in DMV.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 22:17
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Anonymous wrote:First time poster here. Stumbled upon this forum. Have a daughter that has played rec and has typical been one of stronger players (coaches words not mine). Not in MS yet and looking for a club with a strong youth program. I’ve read a bunch of threads on this site and all of them seem to bash all the clubs. We have friends in LI who recommended the yellow jacket organization. So my question is: does this club, 1) have a strong youth program with decent teams? 2) what about coaches (website doesn’t offer up a whole lot and we have been told many clubs don’t keep coach pages up to date? 3) if you had a youth daughter what program would you consider?
Thanks for any insight
You are not going to get an informative answer from anonymous internet trolls that talk bad about other programs 247. Dcurbanmom forums are full of vitriol for one reason or another. I would just contact the club directly and see what they have to offer so you can make an informed decision.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 21:17
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
Anonymous wrote:First time poster here. Stumbled upon this forum. Have a daughter that has played rec and has typical been one of stronger players (coaches words not mine). Not in MS yet and looking for a club with a strong youth program. I’ve read a bunch of threads on this site and all of them seem to bash all the clubs. We have friends in LI who recommended the yellow jacket organization. So my question is: does this club, 1) have a strong youth program with decent teams? 2) what about coaches (website doesn’t offer up a whole lot and we have been told many clubs don’t keep coach pages up to date? 3) if you had a youth daughter what program would you consider?
Thanks for any insight
Summary version, run far away and don't bother/waste your time with this fake club. The LI YJ organization is a real club and one of the best in the country. This YJMA in the DMV area is the complete opposite and a disaster.
YJMA doesn't even have a full team below the 2026 year and coaches are nothing to brag about. Definitely the opposite of a strong youth program you mention. No chance ever would I or anyone consider this club. Even some of the worst Rec clubs/teams are better than YJMA. So many other better options out there to consider.
Anonymous
06/28/2021 20:23
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
First time poster here. Stumbled upon this forum. Have a daughter that has played rec and has typical been one of stronger players (coaches words not mine). Not in MS yet and looking for a club with a strong youth program. I’ve read a bunch of threads on this site and all of them seem to bash all the clubs. We have friends in LI who recommended the yellow jacket organization. So my question is: does this club, 1) have a strong youth program with decent teams? 2) what about coaches (website doesn’t offer up a whole lot and we have been told many clubs don’t keep coach pages up to date? 3) if you had a youth daughter what program would you consider?
Thanks for any insight
Thanks for any insight
Anonymous
06/22/2021 07:48
Subject: Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
the SCAA conflict of interest is real and not cool. SCAA has had declining numbers for last few years. Can only imagine a grasp at some kind of partnership to help them drive up numbers?
Anonymous
06/21/2021 22:53
Subject: Re:Yellow Jackets Coming to DC?
SCAA giving free field space to a profit club
SCAA Commissioner Coaching a YJ team which has caught attention of other clubs
HS girls being touted at “qualified club coaches” and constant roulette of coaches
Guest players filling in majority of team rosters at tournaments and players that are on rosters that just show up out of blue for a game and never being at a practice.
Reduced club costs for new players after other players paid full fees
Significant amount of girls leaving for other programs
For anyone new to club, don’t be sold on the shiny new toy. This club is filled with all lies and a toxic person with one motive only $$$$$.
When one is told this club is exclusive and there are tryouts and girls who maybe have played a season of lax and are on team immediately you know you got played.
Don’t believe the hype or the promise of being part of the YJ extended family. It’s a farce
(A parent that has learned the hard way and went through years of being sold a Bill of goods from days of Rattlers/and what is now YJ)
SCAA Commissioner Coaching a YJ team which has caught attention of other clubs
HS girls being touted at “qualified club coaches” and constant roulette of coaches
Guest players filling in majority of team rosters at tournaments and players that are on rosters that just show up out of blue for a game and never being at a practice.
Reduced club costs for new players after other players paid full fees
Significant amount of girls leaving for other programs
For anyone new to club, don’t be sold on the shiny new toy. This club is filled with all lies and a toxic person with one motive only $$$$$.
When one is told this club is exclusive and there are tryouts and girls who maybe have played a season of lax and are on team immediately you know you got played.
Don’t believe the hype or the promise of being part of the YJ extended family. It’s a farce
(A parent that has learned the hard way and went through years of being sold a Bill of goods from days of Rattlers/and what is now YJ)