Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.
They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.
+1. We’re two weeks behind Italy... we’re 8 days behind Italy...
The 2.2 million was a projection based on not taking any mitigation measures-- no shut down, no social distancing, no telework or tele school, no additional hygiene practices.
THIS. It baffles me how people just don’t seem to get this. We shut things down in early March so that we would not get the 2.2 million projected deaths and now that we didn’t, we’re hearing “oh COVID 19 is not that bad, why did we shut down”? This lack of critical thinking baffles me. Is this a reflection of the USVeducation system?
The "Oh Covid 19 is not that bad" is coming from the fact that it kills less than 1% of people who are infected by it. Yes, those of us who are pushing for things to reopen, fully realize that the numbers would be much higher if it weren't for the shutdown, but the % of fatalities would still be very small. You're thinking in terms of numbers, we are thinking in terms of percentages. To us, a virus that kills such a small percentage of people is not worth turning our society into something that falls in the range of a Great Depression or Zombie Apocalypse.
How many people would have been killed this year if we didn’t lock down?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.
They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.
+1. We’re two weeks behind Italy... we’re 8 days behind Italy...
The 2.2 million was a projection based on not taking any mitigation measures-- no shut down, no social distancing, no telework or tele school, no additional hygiene practices.
THIS. It baffles me how people just don’t seem to get this. We shut things down in early March so that we would not get the 2.2 million projected deaths and now that we didn’t, we’re hearing “oh COVID 19 is not that bad, why did we shut down”? This lack of critical thinking baffles me. Is this a reflection of the USVeducation system?
What is your grand explanation as to we have yet to get as bad as Italy that all you sky is falling mental cases were blathering on and on about? That apparently was supposed to happen early april, then mid April, then late April.
I'm waiting because as of today our deaths per million are 211, of which half that NYC is responsible for. Italy is at 481 deaths per million. Despite your frantic stimming and rocking back and forth, it still hasn't happened.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About damn time. Now open up the Delaware beaches so I can go on my summer vacation. Screw the over 65 crowd. I want a beach vacation.
What is stopping you now?
Were headed to Hilton head this weekend for 2 weeks. Got a great deal on an oceanfront house.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.
They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.
+1. We’re two weeks behind Italy... we’re 8 days behind Italy...
The 2.2 million was a projection based on not taking any mitigation measures-- no shut down, no social distancing, no telework or tele school, no additional hygiene practices.
THIS. It baffles me how people just don’t seem to get this. We shut things down in early March so that we would not get the 2.2 million projected deaths and now that we didn’t, we’re hearing “oh COVID 19 is not that bad, why did we shut down”? This lack of critical thinking baffles me. Is this a reflection of the USVeducation system?
The "Oh Covid 19 is not that bad" is coming from the fact that it kills less than 1% of people who are infected by it. Yes, those of us who are pushing for things to reopen, fully realize that the numbers would be much higher if it weren't for the shutdown, but the % of fatalities would still be very small. You're thinking in terms of numbers, we are thinking in terms of percentages. To us, a virus that kills such a small percentage of people is not worth turning our society into something that falls in the range of a Great Depression or Zombie Apocalypse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.
They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.
+1. We’re two weeks behind Italy... we’re 8 days behind Italy...
The 2.2 million was a projection based on not taking any mitigation measures-- no shut down, no social distancing, no telework or tele school, no additional hygiene practices.
THIS. It baffles me how people just don’t seem to get this. We shut things down in early March so that we would not get the 2.2 million projected deaths and now that we didn’t, we’re hearing “oh COVID 19 is not that bad, why did we shut down”? This lack of critical thinking baffles me. Is this a reflection of the USVeducation system?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news. Those of you that are scared, please stay home, the lack of traffic has been very nice.
As long as you promise that you and everyone you live with won’t seek out medical help if you get sick. Thanks!
No. Hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. They were never overwhelmed outside of NYC, and even there they weren’t turning people away from ventilators. Anyone can get medical treatment ... even those who go out when the governor opens stuff up.
As a nurse with INOVA who had been furloughed, this is true. Not only are hospitals not overwhelmed, they are DEAD. ER is dead, whole units are shut down.
I'm going to return to a DISASTER of people who have been forced to put off important medical care. What is going to be dangerous is the hours everyone is going to have to put in when Northam gets his head out of his ass.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.
They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.
+1. We’re two weeks behind Italy... we’re 8 days behind Italy...
The 2.2 million was a projection based on not taking any mitigation measures-- no shut down, no social distancing, no telework or tele school, no additional hygiene practices.
THIS. It baffles me how people just don’t seem to get this. We shut things down in early March so that we would not get the 2.2 million projected deaths and now that we didn’t, we’re hearing “oh COVID 19 is not that bad, why did we shut down”? This lack of critical thinking baffles me. Is this a reflection of the USVeducation system?
What is your grand explanation as to we have yet to get as bad as Italy that all you sky is falling mental cases were blathering on and on about? That apparently was supposed to happen early april, then mid April, then late April.
I'm waiting because as of today our deaths per million are 211, of which half that NYC is responsible for. Italy is at 481 deaths per million. Despite your frantic stimming and rocking back and forth, it still hasn't happened.
It's coming! My neighbor's cousin has a friend who works in a doctor's office and they said it's coming in 2 weeks!
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anne Frank and her family were able to stay in one small apartment for over 2 years. Y’all are wimps with all your complaining.
I'm not complaining. I love quarantine. I'm saving a ton of money, spending oodles of time with my kids, and still collecting a full salary while working from home (but with less work to do honestly).
Still, I see the writing on the wall. It's ending. By September we will be reopen, short many of our grandparents.
You can't be a real person. Who the heck talks about other people dying like that?
Because I have a clear-eyed view of risk and death? Is that so unusual? My grandmother died this weekend. Not sure, as of today, whether it was covid19 related, but I can still clearly see what our governments plan to do: they won't be insisting on lockdown until we find a vaccine, instead, they will allow for everyone to get exposed, but slowly. I can understand why, it's not practical to fully lock down for a couple years, even if I, personally, am fine in lockdown.
Those are the only two choices, lockdown until vaccine or allow for slow virus exposure, and it's pretty obvious which one we are doing.
Of course there is a middle way. That is what the rest of the world is doing, and what we should be doing. You can't have "slow virus exposure" when every infected person infects 3-5 other people.
Virginia will never even get to stage 2. We will not fully reopen before there's a vaccine or adequate treatment.
You don't seem very familiar with what the rest of the world is doing. German school children are returning to classrooms.
See Germany's curves - see how they've gone most of the way back down? https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany/
Germany had 54 deaths today out of a population of 83 million. Georgia had 43 deaths today out of a population of 10 million. See the difference?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Very confused as to why anyone is considering any of these openings when the Trump Admin is predicting 3k deaths a day which will bring us back to where we were in mid-March very quickly.
They predicted 2.2 million deaths in the beginning. People aren’t buying their BS models anymore.
+1. We’re two weeks behind Italy... we’re 8 days behind Italy...
The 2.2 million was a projection based on not taking any mitigation measures-- no shut down, no social distancing, no telework or tele school, no additional hygiene practices.
THIS. It baffles me how people just don’t seem to get this. We shut things down in early March so that we would not get the 2.2 million projected deaths and now that we didn’t, we’re hearing “oh COVID 19 is not that bad, why did we shut down”? This lack of critical thinking baffles me. Is this a reflection of the USVeducation system?
What is your grand explanation as to we have yet to get as bad as Italy that all you sky is falling mental cases were blathering on and on about? That apparently was supposed to happen early april, then mid April, then late April.
I'm waiting because as of today our deaths per million are 211, of which half that NYC is responsible for. Italy is at 481 deaths per million. Despite your frantic stimming and rocking back and forth, it still hasn't happened.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news. Those of you that are scared, please stay home, the lack of traffic has been very nice.
As long as you promise that you and everyone you live with won’t seek out medical help if you get sick. Thanks!
No. Hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. They were never overwhelmed outside of NYC, and even there they weren’t turning people away from ventilators. Anyone can get medical treatment ... even those who go out when the governor opens stuff up.
As a nurse with INOVA who had been furloughed, this is true. Not only are hospitals not overwhelmed, they are DEAD. ER is dead, whole units are shut down.
I'm going to return to a DISASTER of people who have been forced to put off important medical care. What is going to be dangerous is the hours everyone is going to have to put in when Northam gets his head out of his ass.
What phase is this slated for?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:About damn time. Now open up the Delaware beaches so I can go on my summer vacation. Screw the over 65 crowd. I want a beach vacation.
What is stopping you now?
Were headed to Hilton head this weekend for 2 weeks. Got a great deal on an oceanfront house.
Even if I wanted to do this, I’d be worried about irreparable damage of my friends’ good opinion of me. This would not go over well.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Great news. Those of you that are scared, please stay home, the lack of traffic has been very nice.
As long as you promise that you and everyone you live with won’t seek out medical help if you get sick. Thanks!
No. Hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. They were never overwhelmed outside of NYC, and even there they weren’t turning people away from ventilators. Anyone can get medical treatment ... even those who go out when the governor opens stuff up.
As a nurse with INOVA who had been furloughed, this is true. Not only are hospitals not overwhelmed, they are DEAD. ER is dead, whole units are shut down.
I'm going to return to a DISASTER of people who have been forced to put off important medical care. What is going to be dangerous is the hours everyone is going to have to put in when Northam gets his head out of his ass.
What phase is this slated for?