Anonymous
04/28/2020 01:53
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly. They shouldn’t have been there. A shelter in place order doesn’t mean “go to the family beach house for a BBQ with everyone else”
That’s EXACTLY how yiu spread disease
How dare you say that. They had every right to be there. Sorry that you're jealous that you don't have a second home, but you have no evidence that they were "BBQing with everyone else."
There are a million threads on this topic (should I go to my second home to wait out the pandemic; should we rent a VRBO at the beach now; can we stay at our friends’ beach house during this shelter in place, can I rent an Airbnb for the weekend on the Bay because it’s my birthday) and the consensus is NO. There are even threads criticizing all the people from NYC who fled to the Hamptons or the Catskills. This is exactly the same. People leaving their homes to go somewhere else during the stay at home orders. I get why people do it, but you’re not supposed to, you stay, at, home. They lived in DC and went to Maryland.
They don’t get special consideration because she’s a distant Kennedy. I don’t wish the tragedy on anyone. But it’s pretty shocking people seem to think it was a okay that they were even out there to begin with.
The special consideration is due to her mother as the former governor not as a Kennedy family member. (She’s a close member BTW.).
And yes, lots of people with second homes / cabins considered leaving and did. Whether it was a good, moral, smart, decision is debatable. I didn’t have options, unless I went to my parents in a hotspot most people avoid in good times.
Anonymous
04/28/2020 01:07
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly. They shouldn’t have been there. A shelter in place order doesn’t mean “go to the family beach house for a BBQ with everyone else”
That’s EXACTLY how yiu spread disease
How dare you say that. They had every right to be there. Sorry that you're jealous that you don't have a second home, but you have no evidence that they were "BBQing with everyone else."
There are a million threads on this topic (should I go to my second home to wait out the pandemic; should we rent a VRBO at the beach now; can we stay at our friends’ beach house during this shelter in place, can I rent an Airbnb for the weekend on the Bay because it’s my birthday) and the consensus is NO. There are even threads criticizing all the people from NYC who fled to the Hamptons or the Catskills. This is exactly the same. People leaving their homes to go somewhere else during the stay at home orders. I get why people do it, but you’re not supposed to, you stay, at, home. They lived in DC and went to Maryland.
They don’t get special consideration because she’s a distant Kennedy. I don’t wish the tragedy on anyone. But it’s pretty shocking people seem to think it was a okay that they were even out there to begin with.
There is no “consensus,” there is just busy bodies like you who think they make the rules for everyone else. We’re at our second home now. What’s that to you?
New poster. No problem with that. Just don't come back until all restrictions are lifted and then you spend a full two weeks in complete quarantine
And I'm sure you don't have a cleaning person or anyone going inside your main home, right?
Anonymous
04/19/2020 22:40
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly. They shouldn’t have been there. A shelter in place order doesn’t mean “go to the family beach house for a BBQ with everyone else”
That’s EXACTLY how yiu spread disease
How dare you say that. They had every right to be there. Sorry that you're jealous that you don't have a second home, but you have no evidence that they were "BBQing with everyone else."
There are a million threads on this topic (should I go to my second home to wait out the pandemic; should we rent a VRBO at the beach now; can we stay at our friends’ beach house during this shelter in place, can I rent an Airbnb for the weekend on the Bay because it’s my birthday) and the consensus is NO. There are even threads criticizing all the people from NYC who fled to the Hamptons or the Catskills. This is exactly the same. People leaving their homes to go somewhere else during the stay at home orders. I get why people do it, but you’re not supposed to, you stay, at, home. They lived in DC and went to Maryland.
They don’t get special consideration because she’s a distant Kennedy. I don’t wish the tragedy on anyone. But it’s pretty shocking people seem to think it was a okay that they were even out there to begin with.
There is no “consensus,” there is just busy bodies like you who think they make the rules for everyone else. We’re at our second home now. What’s that to you?
Anonymous
04/19/2020 22:37
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:They went to the beach house prior to the stay at home order being in effect. No one else was there. If they had needed medical care, they would have come back to DC. It was like a 1.5 hour drive away.
There are hospitals in Anne Arundel County.
Anonymous
04/19/2020 22:30
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They went to the beach house prior to the stay at home order being in effect. No one else was there. If they had needed medical care, they would have come back to DC. It was like a 1.5 hour drive away.
They were by Deale, which is about 40 minutes from the Beltway. 1.5 hours? Yeah, I think you’re just making up facts.
Whether they went before or after the SAH order they should not have been there. There are many reasons they should have been at home (they went OUT OF STATE, not pulling on the resources of that small area of Maryland for health care and food, could have brought the virus with them). There are many posts on DCUM and articles online about why people should not go to vacation homes now. And here with have a new one: a person who was a real local, who lived there full time would have never ventured into a canoe with one paddle, a child and no life jackets to retrieve a ball. A local would have appreciated the risk. That day was so windy. A local would have known the Bay, and either have let the ball go, brought life jackets, left the kid on shore, or even possibly jumped out of the canoe because it is likely she could have stood up even far from shore. A local would have let someone on shore know they were going out, instead there was about 30 minutes until a call came in from strangers about the canoe. BUT she wasn’t from there, she didn’t have that awareness. And she took all kinds of Maryland resources to find her and her son.
I hate that this happened, and I don’t think this family or any family deserves to have this occur to them. BUT there is a lesson to be learned here and we should all take a pause and realize that.
I live in Shady Side. The call for the boaters in distress came from my neighbor. I wish you were correct in how you describe local knowledge and respect for the water. I see a number of water accidents and rescues where locals got themselves in trouble. All it takes is one oversight.
Anonymous
04/19/2020 21:37
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:It’s just sad. They’re dead. The mom made a spontaneous judgement that proved to be deadly. It is tragic all around.
+1
Probably the type of thing they did all the time that went terribly, terribly wrong. Very sad.
Anonymous
04/18/2020 10:48
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
It’s just sad. They’re dead. The mom made a spontaneous judgement that proved to be deadly. It is tragic all around.
Anonymous
04/17/2020 17:35
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know how some of you live with yourselves. I guess judging like this makes you feel like an accident could never happen to you or your family?
Not at all. But their deaths can teach a lesson to others. That is not judgment. That is learning from others’ mistakes.
Anonymous
04/17/2020 17:18
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They went to the beach house prior to the stay at home order being in effect. No one else was there. If they had needed medical care, they would have come back to DC. It was like a 1.5 hour drive away.
They were by Deale, which is about 40 minutes from the Beltway. 1.5 hours? Yeah, I think you’re just making up facts.
Whether they went before or after the SAH order they should not have been there. There are many reasons they should have been at home (they went OUT OF STATE, not pulling on the resources of that small area of Maryland for health care and food, could have brought the virus with them). There are many posts on DCUM and articles online about why people should not go to vacation homes now. And here with have a new one: a person who was a real local, who lived there full time would have never ventured into a canoe with one paddle, a child and no life jackets to retrieve a ball. A local would have appreciated the risk. That day was so windy. A local would have known the Bay, and either have let the ball go, brought life jackets, left the kid on shore, or even possibly jumped out of the canoe because it is likely she could have stood up even far from shore. A local would have let someone on shore know they were going out, instead there was about 30 minutes until a call came in from strangers about the canoe. BUT she wasn’t from there, she didn’t have that awareness. And she took all kinds of Maryland resources to find her and her son.
I hate that this happened, and I don’t think this family or any family deserves to have this occur to them. BUT there is a lesson to be learned here and we should all take a pause and realize that.
Bingo. Perfectly summed up.
There were at least a half dozen risk factors at work here , where the decision to not do even one of them , would’ve saved their lives. They drowned because of sequence of uninterrupted bad decisions.
And other’s lives were put at risk, including the people searching for them, as well as anyone who might’ve needed assistance from the people otherwise occupied with the search. It was a total misappropriation of resources.
Anonymous
04/16/2020 07:29
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
I don’t know how some of you live with yourselves. I guess judging like this makes you feel like an accident could never happen to you or your family?
Anonymous
04/16/2020 07:27
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:They went to the beach house prior to the stay at home order being in effect. No one else was there. If they had needed medical care, they would have come back to DC. It was like a 1.5 hour drive away.
They were by Deale, which is about 40 minutes from the Beltway. 1.5 hours? Yeah, I think you’re just making up facts.
Whether they went before or after the SAH order they should not have been there. There are many reasons they should have been at home (they went OUT OF STATE, not pulling on the resources of that small area of Maryland for health care and food, could have brought the virus with them). There are many posts on DCUM and articles online about why people should not go to vacation homes now. And here with have a new one: a person who was a real local, who lived there full time would have never ventured into a canoe with one paddle, a child and no life jackets to retrieve a ball. A local would have appreciated the risk. That day was so windy. A local would have known the Bay, and either have let the ball go, brought life jackets, left the kid on shore, or even possibly jumped out of the canoe because it is likely she could have stood up even far from shore. A local would have let someone on shore know they were going out, instead there was about 30 minutes until a call came in from strangers about the canoe. BUT she wasn’t from there, she didn’t have that awareness. And she took all kinds of Maryland resources to find her and her son.
I hate that this happened, and I don’t think this family or any family deserves to have this occur to them. BUT there is a lesson to be learned here and we should all take a pause and realize that.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 23:49
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly. They shouldn’t have been there. A shelter in place order doesn’t mean “go to the family beach house for a BBQ with everyone else”
That’s EXACTLY how yiu spread disease
How dare you say that. They had every right to be there. Sorry that you're jealous that you don't have a second home, but you have no evidence that they were "BBQing with everyone else."
My second home is a Grand Banks 48. My view is better than any beach house.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 21:27
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:They went to the beach house prior to the stay at home order being in effect. No one else was there. If they had needed medical care, they would have come back to DC. It was like a 1.5 hour drive away.
Huh?
First of all Annapolis isn’t 1.5 hours from DC except for maybe on Memorial Day weekend or something.
And secondly, they actually do have doctors and hospitals out there.
Anonymous
04/15/2020 20:33
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
They went to the beach house prior to the stay at home order being in effect. No one else was there. If they had needed medical care, they would have come back to DC. It was like a 1.5 hour drive away.
Anonymous
04/14/2020 18:05
Subject: Mother and child lost in tragic Chesapeake Bay accident, possible connection to former Lt. Governor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly. They shouldn’t have been there. A shelter in place order doesn’t mean “go to the family beach house for a BBQ with everyone else”
That’s EXACTLY how yiu spread disease
How dare you say that. They had every right to be there. Sorry that you're jealous that you don't have a second home, but you have no evidence that they were "BBQing with everyone else."
There are a million threads on this topic (should I go to my second home to wait out the pandemic; should we rent a VRBO at the beach now; can we stay at our friends’ beach house during this shelter in place, can I rent an Airbnb for the weekend on the Bay because it’s my birthday) and the consensus is NO. There are even threads criticizing all the people from NYC who fled to the Hamptons or the Catskills. This is exactly the same. People leaving their homes to go somewhere else during the stay at home orders. I get why people do it, but you’re not supposed to, you stay, at, home. They lived in DC and went to Maryland.
They don’t get special consideration because she’s a distant Kennedy. I don’t wish the tragedy on anyone. But it’s pretty shocking people seem to think it was a okay that they were even out there to begin with.