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Anonymous wrote:Elon and CNU appear to be on the rise. They're on our list for safeties.

I have a hard time making sense of the "regional universities" category-- JMU always does well for this in VA and CNU is rising in it, but that category means they can never be more than a regional school? Not that it can't be a fantastic school for those that want that, but I don't quite get why JMU will always be a regional school while GMU is a national university. And what are the implications for that? It seems like the regional category puts a strong upper limit on growth/status potential.

Anonymous wrote:Lost in all this debate are the rankings of schools that 95% of the people on this forum may actually attend. Some interesting changes both up and down.

Pitt - 70 to 57
Florida State 70 to 57
Indiana 89 to 79
Buffalo 89 to 79

BYU 63 to 77
UC Santa Cruz 70 to 84
Clark 66 to 91
TCU 80 to 97
Yeshiva 80 to 97

Several Schools moved from the Regional to National Ranking:
Santa Clara - 54
Loyola Marymount - 64
Gonzaga - 79
Elon - 84

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elon and CNU appear to be on the rise. They're on our list for safeties.

I have a hard time making sense of the "regional universities" category-- JMU always does well for this in VA and CNU is rising in it, but that category means they can never be more than a regional school? Not that it can't be a fantastic school for those that want that, but I don't quite get why JMU will always be a regional school while GMU is a national university. And what are the implications for that? It seems like the regional category puts a strong upper limit on growth/status potential.

Anonymous wrote:Elon and CNU appear to be on the rise. They're on our list for safeties.

Anonymous wrote:Can we move the Michigan versus UVA debate to another thread please. So stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is a garbage commuter school. It should be ranked 75, not 25. UVA has a 1550 SAT average while Umich is only 1250 average, how is UVA ranked lower? what a joke ranking.

??

Not a Michigan booster, but I just had to look this one up. Did I miss something?

Michigan average ACT/SAT:
30-34
1330-1510

UVA average ACT/SAT:
30-34
1330-1500

Anonymous wrote:Michigan is a garbage commuter school. It should be ranked 75, not 25. UVA has a 1550 SAT average while Umich is only 1250 average, how is UVA ranked lower? what a joke ranking.

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Anonymous wrote:“So next step: there are 399 national universities out of which the top 25 are ranked. Of those top 25 ranked, 20 were in the top 25 in endowment per capita, including the top 19.”

Yep, huge correlation. Same story on the LAC side. I know as a parent who helped five kids develop their college lists that there’s a strong correlation between competitiveness for entry and endowment. Some outliers to be sure, but generally they align.

If there’s a correlation, competitiveness isn’t part of it because USNWR doesn’t use acceptance rate anymore.

I meant competitiveness not as a ratings factor but as indicator of difficulty gaining admission. I have a B student and trying to help him build a list of schools we’ve spent a lot of time in the CDS of various schools. Those with entering classes having higher test scores and greater percentages in the top decile/quartile/half of their HS classes tend to have higher endowments (and higher rankings).

Except you said there’s a relationship between endowment and competitiveness. That isn’t really true with USNWR, particularly as they don’t use acceptance rate to calculate their ranking.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“So next step: there are 399 national universities out of which the top 25 are ranked. Of those top 25 ranked, 20 were in the top 25 in endowment per capita, including the top 19.”

Yep, huge correlation. Same story on the LAC side. I know as a parent who helped five kids develop their college lists that there’s a strong correlation between competitiveness for entry and endowment. Some outliers to be sure, but generally they align.

If there’s a correlation, competitiveness isn’t part of it because USNWR doesn’t use acceptance rate anymore.

I meant competitiveness not as a ratings factor but as indicator of difficulty gaining admission. I have a B student and trying to help him build a list of schools we’ve spent a lot of time in the CDS of various schools. Those with entering classes having higher test scores and greater percentages in the top decile/quartile/half of their HS classes tend to have higher endowments (and higher rankings).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“So next step: there are 399 national universities out of which the top 25 are ranked. Of those top 25 ranked, 20 were in the top 25 in endowment per capita, including the top 19.”

Yep, huge correlation. Same story on the LAC side. I know as a parent who helped five kids develop their college lists that there’s a strong correlation between competitiveness for entry and endowment. Some outliers to be sure, but generally they align.

If there’s a correlation, competitiveness isn’t part of it because USNWR doesn’t use acceptance rate anymore.

Anonymous wrote:So many angry UVA posters rearing their ugly heads. This is turning into a Michigan bashing forum. Maybe they will leave UMCP and ND alone now and focus their hate on Michigan.

Anonymous wrote:How many spots up did Christopher Newport University move?