Anonymous
07/26/2019 16:20
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:
Langley can take some apartment complexes zoned to crowded McLean and Marshall that are a lot closer than 16 miles from the school.
"Whenever" is not happening.
Virginia Law https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter7/section22.1-79/
[i]§ 22.1-79. Powers and duties.
A school board shall:
1. See that the school laws are properly explained, enforced and observed;
2. Secure, by visitation or otherwise, as full information as possible about the conduct of the public schools in the school division and take care that they are conducted according to law and with the utmost efficiency;
3. Care for, manage and control the property of the school division and provide for the erecting, furnishing, equipping, and noninstructional operating of necessary school buildings and appurtenances and the maintenance thereof by purchase, lease, or other contracts;
4. Provide for the consolidation of schools or redistricting of school boundaries or adopt pupil assignment plans [b]whenever such procedure will contribute to the efficiency of the school division[/b];
FCPS staff Supt Brabrand, Chief Operating Officer Smith, Asst Supt for Facilities and Transportation Platenburg are in a moratorium on boundary processes other than what was voted on - p 46 of the CIP. Years of negative impact on operating efficiency by this school board while it discusses /revises it's Regulation 8130 on boundaries, school and program assignment?
Examples of operating inefficiency:
Mount Vernon/West Potomac.
Sandburg 105% [feeds West Potomac]/Whitman 85%[feeds Mount Vernon] is in the Sandburg attendance area
Langley/Marshall/Mclean.
https://www.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/BA3TCA51759A/$file/Attachment%20Item%20285.pdf
Is BM capacity[bricks and mortar] versus BM+M capacity [bricks and mortar plus modulars] equitable under OneFairfax?
https://www.tysonsreporter.com/2019/01/29/school-board-kills-mclean-high-school-boundary-adjustments/
The Fairfax County School Board approved the FY 2020-2024 Capital Improvement Program (CIP) on Jan. 24, and the much talked about boundary adjustment to relieve the overcrowded McLean High School didn’t make the cut.
The CIP shows that McLean High School is currently at 114 percent of its capacity, with projections showing the population increasing to 127 percent by 2022. Meanwhile, the nearby Langley High School sits at 82 percent capacity following an extensive renovation......
Other school board members said they were uncomfortable approving a spot-boundary change before the School Board conducts a broader boundary examination on Feb. 25.
“I do have concerns about doing a limited boundary change in one area without taking a more holistic analysis and approach,” said Tamara Derenak Kaufax, a representative from the Lee District, at a Jan. 14 work session. “We’re going to have to do what staff has been advocating, doing a holistic approach to [the] system and looking at the impacts.”....
“Sadly, no concrete proposals to address [McLean High School] crowding were added with the final revisions,” said Susan Garrahan, a parent to a McLean High School sophomore. “Some other Board members countered that the McLean-Langley boundary adjustment study should be rolled into a countywide boundary project set to start in late February, and that is what happened. Perhaps this will lead to a remedy for MHS on the same timetable as if it were just a McLean-Langley boundary adjustment project, but if it takes longer as part of a countywide project — and I think that is likely — it will be the students and staff who pay the price of overcrowding every additional day that it takes.”
They could have addressed McLean's overcrowding. They are purposely keeping those kids in trailers. Why? for a "holistic approach to the system and looking at the impacts". Why oh why does McLean have to wait for a countywide boundary project when there is a school with capacity a mere 10-15 minutes away?
Anonymous
07/26/2019 16:14
Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, I do think PROXIMITY should matter when doing school zoning. The schools we are zoned to are also the closest ones to our house, so I would also be annoyed for that reason if they changed.
+1
Which is why the western GF people should go to Herndon HS and shut up about it.
In that case, then maybe they should close Langley? Because only a small number of homes are closer to Langley than other schools, especially with McLean HS in existence.
This poster that you are replying to REALLY wants GF kids at Herndon. No amount of reality, geographic or otherwise, will quell that burning desire.
It doesn't matter. FCPS has put a lot of money into Langley and land for schools in less expensive parts of the county is still really expensive. We need to make the most efficient use possible of our existing assets, unless you want to see taxes explode.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 16:10
Subject: Re:Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Furthermore, I do think PROXIMITY should matter when doing school zoning. The schools we are zoned to are also the closest ones to our house, so I would also be annoyed for that reason if they changed.
+1
Which is why the western GF people should go to Herndon HS and shut up about it.
In that case, then maybe they should close Langley? Because only a small number of homes are closer to Langley than other schools, especially with McLean HS in existence.
This poster that you are replying to REALLY wants GF kids at Herndon. No amount of reality, geographic or otherwise, will quell that burning desire.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 16:07
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:LOL, why would any of us Langley parents care about McLean HS students coming to Langley? You are delusional. Please tell me what the problem with this was. Please, I'd love to hear the so-called issue you heard.
They claim that, if FCPS moves McLean kids to Langley, FCPS will get the numbers wrong; Langley will end up overcrowded, and FCPS will then move Langley kids from Great Falls to Herndon.
I didn’t say I agree with these people or that they reflect the views of most Langley parents, whether they live in Great Falls or elsewhere. In fact, I think people who have this concern have been misled.
I’m not sure why you’re being such a defensive dipshit about it. I know what I’ve heard, including at the 7/22 work session where dozens of Langley parents showed up with signs against boundary changes.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 15:56
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
LOL, why would any of us Langley parents care about McLean HS students coming to Langley? You are delusional. Please tell me what the problem with this was. Please, I'd love to hear the so-called issue you heard.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 15:52
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I too have never heard of anyone at Langley HS having any issues with McLean students being rezoned for Langley HS. I personally wouldn't have any issues with it either. My kids are friends with many kids at McLean HS.
The PP is making things up. No Langley parent has ever voiced an issue with this, nor would there really be a reason to voice an issue with this. I understand the concerns of busing Herndon students 30-45 minutes to attend Langley HS, but there is no corresponding issue of sending students who live in McLean to Langley. It is not an issue and, as I said, no Langley parent has ever voiced an issue with this.
Liar.
+1. Typical Langley damage control.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 15:46
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I too have never heard of anyone at Langley HS having any issues with McLean students being rezoned for Langley HS. I personally wouldn't have any issues with it either. My kids are friends with many kids at McLean HS.
The PP is making things up. No Langley parent has ever voiced an issue with this, nor would there really be a reason to voice an issue with this. I understand the concerns of busing Herndon students 30-45 minutes to attend Langley HS, but there is no corresponding issue of sending students who live in McLean to Langley. It is not an issue and, as I said, no Langley parent has ever voiced an issue with this.
Liar.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 15:33
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:I too have never heard of anyone at Langley HS having any issues with McLean students being rezoned for Langley HS. I personally wouldn't have any issues with it either. My kids are friends with many kids at McLean HS.
The PP is making things up. No Langley parent has ever voiced an issue with this, nor would there really be a reason to voice an issue with this. I understand the concerns of busing Herndon students 30-45 minutes to attend Langley HS, but there is no corresponding issue of sending students who live in McLean to Langley. It is not an issue and, as I said, no Langley parent has ever voiced an issue with this.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 15:31
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
I too have never heard of anyone at Langley HS having any issues with McLean students being rezoned for Langley HS. I personally wouldn't have any issues with it either. My kids are friends with many kids at McLean HS.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 12:28
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one in McLean/Great Falls has a problem sending current McLean kids to Langley as a result of redrawing boundaries. The two school bases have largely similar student types, and the kids would likely fit in fine after an adjustment period.
The concern I hear is current Great Falls families that currently send their kids to Langley having to send their kids to Herndon after a boundary adjustment.
Yes, and some of those Great Falls families are objecting to moving any McLean kids to Langley for precisely that reason. They see the empty seats at Langley as their insurance policy against ever getting moved to Herndon.
Oink, oink, oink.
I don't think you read the prior post correctly. It flat out says Great Falls families do not object to moving McLean kids to Langley. That is not a problem for Great Falls or Langley HS.
I read the PP correctly. I simply disagreed with it because I know for a fact some Great Falls parents don’t want any McLean kids moved into Langley for fear Langley kids will get moved to Herndon. I’ve heard them say it and I’ve read their comments on other social media platforms. These people want Langley’s boundaries preserved as they are now, with no changes at all. Relatedly, I’ve also seen campaign materials for one of the School Board candidates from Great Falls that say Langley should have veto rights over any proposal to adjust the school’s boundaries.
I understand that may not be the view of most Langley families, but it is the view of some. I also understand why other Langley parents might not want to acknowledge that some in their pyramid feel that way because “resource hoarding” isn’t a great look for the community.
I am sure your anecdotal evidence is much greater than a parent who regularly attends meetings and is actively involved in Langley HS. I have heard of zero concerns about moving McLean HS students to Langley HS. Zero. No one cares about this.
Sounds like your “evidence” is anecdotal as well.
As I said, I get that it’s not good for Langley’s reputation when some people in Great Falls object to making use of empty seats at LHS after FCPS just spent a lot of money to renovate and expand the school. But I think you’re better off making clear that you disagree with them than to imply it never happened, which just comes across as if you’re in denial.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 12:03
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one in McLean/Great Falls has a problem sending current McLean kids to Langley as a result of redrawing boundaries. The two school bases have largely similar student types, and the kids would likely fit in fine after an adjustment period.
The concern I hear is current Great Falls families that currently send their kids to Langley having to send their kids to Herndon after a boundary adjustment.
Yes, and some of those Great Falls families are objecting to moving any McLean kids to Langley for precisely that reason. They see the empty seats at Langley as their insurance policy against ever getting moved to Herndon.
Oink, oink, oink.
I don't think you read the prior post correctly. It flat out says Great Falls families do not object to moving McLean kids to Langley. That is not a problem for Great Falls or Langley HS.
Some of these people just want GF moved to Langley by any means necessary and for whatever reason. They call Langley racist even as they want to offload some of these "brown children" elsewhere.
Huh? GF goes to Langley now.
Lol. Unfortunately I occasionally make mistakes. I meant Herndon.
Don't tell anyone!
Anonymous
07/26/2019 11:53
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Not the law, but by FCPS policy https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/97KJK54D54F8/$file/P8130.pdf
the school board can change up to 15% of a schools boundary population without public input or comment.
the school board can change up to 15% of a schools boundary population without public input or comment.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 11:53
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
And why would they care about moving McLean kids to Langley. Those kids largely grew up together, play on club sports teams together. I agree that parents in Langley really aren't overly concerned with such a move.
Sending current Great Falls students to Herndon HS, which makes no sense at all considering Langley is underenrolled, causes some concern for people who live far out in Great Falls. But this is not likely a real issue. It makes no sense and the school Board hasn't said this is what they are going to do. It is likely a bunch of trolls trying to rile people up.
Sending current Great Falls students to Herndon HS, which makes no sense at all considering Langley is underenrolled, causes some concern for people who live far out in Great Falls. But this is not likely a real issue. It makes no sense and the school Board hasn't said this is what they are going to do. It is likely a bunch of trolls trying to rile people up.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 11:50
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one in McLean/Great Falls has a problem sending current McLean kids to Langley as a result of redrawing boundaries. The two school bases have largely similar student types, and the kids would likely fit in fine after an adjustment period.
The concern I hear is current Great Falls families that currently send their kids to Langley having to send their kids to Herndon after a boundary adjustment.
Yes, and some of those Great Falls families are objecting to moving any McLean kids to Langley for precisely that reason. They see the empty seats at Langley as their insurance policy against ever getting moved to Herndon.
Oink, oink, oink.
I don't think you read the prior post correctly. It flat out says Great Falls families do not object to moving McLean kids to Langley. That is not a problem for Great Falls or Langley HS.
I read the PP correctly. I simply disagreed with it because I know for a fact some Great Falls parents don’t want any McLean kids moved into Langley for fear Langley kids will get moved to Herndon. I’ve heard them say it and I’ve read their comments on other social media platforms. These people want Langley’s boundaries preserved as they are now, with no changes at all. Relatedly, I’ve also seen campaign materials for one of the School Board candidates from Great Falls that say Langley should have veto rights over any proposal to adjust the school’s boundaries.
I understand that may not be the view of most Langley families, but it is the view of some. I also understand why other Langley parents might not want to acknowledge that some in their pyramid feel that way because “resource hoarding” isn’t a great look for the community.
I am sure your anecdotal evidence is much greater than a parent who regularly attends meetings and is actively involved in Langley HS. I have heard of zero concerns about moving McLean HS students to Langley HS. Zero. No one cares about this.
Anonymous
07/26/2019 11:49
Subject: Show me the law that says school boards cannot change boundaries.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one in McLean/Great Falls has a problem sending current McLean kids to Langley as a result of redrawing boundaries. The two school bases have largely similar student types, and the kids would likely fit in fine after an adjustment period.
The concern I hear is current Great Falls families that currently send their kids to Langley having to send their kids to Herndon after a boundary adjustment.
Yes, and some of those Great Falls families are objecting to moving any McLean kids to Langley for precisely that reason. They see the empty seats at Langley as their insurance policy against ever getting moved to Herndon.
Oink, oink, oink.
I don't think you read the prior post correctly. It flat out says Great Falls families do not object to moving McLean kids to Langley. That is not a problem for Great Falls or Langley HS.
Some of these people just want GF moved to Langley by any means necessary and for whatever reason. They call Langley racist even as they want to offload some of these "brown children" elsewhere.
Huh? GF goes to Langley now.