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Anonymous wrote:Yes. By the time of the boundary review it will be clear that all of the WITP schools are full. That will be a key fact.

We get to make choices about that. Fundamentally I see three choices, maybe four.

First, we can decide to go along with the residential segregation and transportation patterns and say they’re full and out-of-boundary students are basically excluded. Sounds bad, but it might have the most impact for neighborhoods from which students travel west for elementary and feed upward in terms of keeping their best students in those schools.

Second, we could keep everything the same and start construction WOTP to meet demand. Build out bigger elementary schools, build more middle and high schools.

Third, we could make a rule that reserves some spots in each of these schools for OOB students. Maybe based on at-risk status and maybe not. Would have good effects but could create stigma. Could exclude or include people who don’t need access to schools like this.

Fourth, we could equalize further by establishing a lottery not tied to residence of applicant, i.e., no inboundary preference. I see this as the best choice functionally but politically unachievable. This forum’s reaction to that choice is always that every person with a better than 9th grade education and a tent will move to some suburb and leave DC to the zombies if that’s even mentioned and while that’s handwringing bullshit it’s politically reflective of something for sure. That’s why I only say it’s 3 choices really.

Other choices like choice grouped pyramids were run up the flagpole and failed during the last go round. I doubt we’re more likely to turn those choices into reality than last time.

What do you all think?

I think the reason #4 is politically unfeasible is because I don’t want to drive across town (potentially) to drop my kids off a school (possibly two different schools) and then drive across town again to get to work. This could be 90+ minutes. This is why I want neighborhood schools.

Anonymous wrote:But why wouldn’t we do lottery for good schools that are now neighborhood schools?

Anonymous wrote:you keep circling back to saying YOU get to keep Janney AND get access to my dual language school, which is the only good part of a neighborhood school with no students on grade level. Fix that equitably and you're getting somewhere. Otherwise you're just taking.

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Anonymous wrote:But why wouldn’t we do lottery for good schools that are now neighborhood schools?

Because the only thing that makes them " good" is that kids from the neighborhood fill the seats.

Kick the neighborhood kids out and you would have just another school filled with kids performing below grade level.

Dont we have enough of those?

Anonymous wrote:But why wouldn’t we do lottery for good schools that are now neighborhood schools?

Anonymous wrote:Yes they are real but your “significant numbers” aren’t. ELL for the target language, Spanish, is what I’m talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the benefit of living where I live in Ward 4. You treat your nice schools in Ward 3 like property and never expect that to change. Nice when the asymmetry always changes to better favor the privileged. Now I see why some on the Council are proposing language immersion schools for each Ward. Because it’s more equitable than citywide schools that become a power grab for people who want access who already have, not a way for have nots to get better access.

Placing an immersion school in every ward, and not making them open to all students won't be more equitable.

Making those immersion schools open to anyone via the lottery, and not just to those who happen to live in the boundary zone for them, is the more equitable solution.

+1

It’s more equitable if ELL have trumping preferred access.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the benefit of living where I live in Ward 4. You treat your nice schools in Ward 3 like property and never expect that to change. Nice when the asymmetry always changes to better favor the privileged. Now I see why some on the Council are proposing language immersion schools for each Ward. Because it’s more equitable than citywide schools that become a power grab for people who want access who already have, not a way for have nots to get better access.

Placing an immersion school in every ward, and not making them open to all students won't be more equitable.

Making those immersion schools open to anyone via the lottery, and not just to those who happen to live in the boundary zone for them, is the more equitable solution.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:If a specialty program near my house is open to anyone by lottery without boundaries will the JKLMs too? Ward 1 and 4 have them due to their Hispanic ELL populations they are serving.

Why would they? DCPS could rezone neighborhood schools and take the immersion schools out of it. Those are lottery only. This is how it works in other places.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the benefit of living where I live in Ward 4. You treat your nice schools in Ward 3 like property and never expect that to change. Nice when the asymmetry always changes to better favor the privileged. Now I see why some on the Council are proposing language immersion schools for each Ward. Because it’s more equitable than citywide schools that become a power grab for people who want access who already have, not a way for have nots to get better access.

Placing an immersion school in every ward, and not making them open to all students won't be more equitable.

Making those immersion schools open to anyone via the lottery, and not just to those who happen to live in the boundary zone for them, is the more equitable solution.

Anonymous wrote:It’s the benefit of living where I live in Ward 4. You treat your nice schools in Ward 3 like property and never expect that to change. Nice when the asymmetry always changes to better favor the privileged. Now I see why some on the Council are proposing language immersion schools for each Ward. Because it’s more equitable than citywide schools that become a power grab for people who want access who already have, not a way for have nots to get better access.