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Anonymous wrote:As far as ACT goes, looks like someone is finally taking them to court. It'll be interesting to see the rulings.
https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2019/01/14/lawsuit-against-act-adds-criticism-testing-organizations-allegedly
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2019/01/sorry-act-kids-accused-of-cheating-can-now-sue-you-nj-judge-says.html

This is great news!

Okay, that article says the kid was offered a $20K scholarship somewhere with ACT scores in the low 20s.

How on earth is that possible?

Where are these kids going to college where they are getting scholarship for such low or middling ACT/SAT scores?

I thought kids need SATs in the upper 1300s to 1400s or ACTs in the upper 20s/low 30s to even get accepted to college, and much higher for scholarships.

You thought wrong.

Merit is nearly everywhere, and for nearly everyone -- just maybe not where you want your kid to go. Look beyond the top 100-200 colleges and you will find it.

Is it a game, like when stores have inflated list prices and then discount? We could argue that all day, but lets not.

But significant merit aide for a 21 ACT score?

That cannot be true.

Anonymous wrote:I thought kids need SATs in the upper 1300s to 1400s or ACTs in the upper 20s/low 30s to even get accepted to college, and much higher for scholarships.

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Anonymous wrote:As far as ACT goes, looks like someone is finally taking them to court. It'll be interesting to see the rulings.
https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2019/01/14/lawsuit-against-act-adds-criticism-testing-organizations-allegedly
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2019/01/sorry-act-kids-accused-of-cheating-can-now-sue-you-nj-judge-says.html

This is great news!

Okay, that article says the kid was offered a $20K scholarship somewhere with ACT scores in the low 20s.

How on earth is that possible?

Where are these kids going to college where they are getting scholarship for such low or middling ACT/SAT scores?

I thought kids need SATs in the upper 1300s to 1400s or ACTs in the upper 20s/low 30s to even get accepted to college, and much higher for scholarships.

You thought wrong.

Merit is nearly everywhere, and for nearly everyone -- just maybe not where you want your kid to go. Look beyond the top 100-200 colleges and you will find it.

Is it a game, like when stores have inflated list prices and then discount? We could argue that all day, but lets not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As far as ACT goes, looks like someone is finally taking them to court. It'll be interesting to see the rulings.
https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2019/01/14/lawsuit-against-act-adds-criticism-testing-organizations-allegedly
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2019/01/sorry-act-kids-accused-of-cheating-can-now-sue-you-nj-judge-says.html

This is great news!

Okay, that article says the kid was offered a $20K scholarship somewhere with ACT scores in the low 20s.

How on earth is that possible?

Where are these kids going to college where they are getting scholarship for such low or middling ACT/SAT scores?

I thought kids need SATs in the upper 1300s to 1400s or ACTs in the upper 20s/low 30s to even get accepted to college, and much higher for scholarships.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As far as ACT goes, looks like someone is finally taking them to court. It'll be interesting to see the rulings.
https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2019/01/14/lawsuit-against-act-adds-criticism-testing-organizations-allegedly
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2019/01/sorry-act-kids-accused-of-cheating-can-now-sue-you-nj-judge-says.html

This is great news!

Anonymous wrote:As far as ACT goes, looks like someone is finally taking them to court. It'll be interesting to see the rulings.
https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2019/01/14/lawsuit-against-act-adds-criticism-testing-organizations-allegedly
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/2019/01/sorry-act-kids-accused-of-cheating-can-now-sue-you-nj-judge-says.html

Anonymous wrote:Not certain if SAT taking has changed but:

1. Isn’t it computerized now?
2. We never had assigned seats, how would anyone know who she sat next to?
3. If there are only 4-5 answers to chose from for most questions, the probability for several students to get the same answers in a room if 100 students is high.

Maybe I’m oversimplifying...

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Anonymous wrote:So for those of you who are upset by this, do you disagree in general with SAT flagging and reviewing test takers who have a statistically significant 300 point score jump?

Or do you object to this specific test taker getting flagged for her 300 point score jump?

I think most who object are primarily driven by a private, unregulated for-profit organization who can do any damn thing they please having so much control over the lives of young people.

And no one “wins” these canceled scores by SAT/ACT. Check College Confidential. It’s a rigged system.

lol....everyone’s a victim, right?

When two companies control a required test for most colleges in the US? YES.

There are many colleges in the US that don’t require tests anymore, and I suspect the list will continue to grow.
My kid got 1590 SAT and 36 ACT after prepping I do not see how what you said is rigth.

If you feel so strongly that the SAT and ACT are damaging to your progeny, there is a very simple solution.

The schools that good students want to go to will always ‘require the tests’. The schools that are test optional are mostly schools whose enrollment is starting to flag abd who are in danger of going out of business.

Just to mention: St. John's College (Annapolis/Santa Fe) has never required test scores. It is a highly regarded school, although with an atypical curriculum.

Anonymous wrote:Not certain if SAT taking has changed but:

1. Isn’t it computerized now?
2. We never had assigned seats, how would anyone know who she sat next to?
3. If there are only 4-5 answers to chose from for most questions, the probability for several students to get the same answers in a room if 100 students is high.

Maybe I’m oversimplifying...

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Anonymous wrote:If there are two people sitting next to each other. One of those people has a 300 point score bump on their test, the other test taker has a 10 point score bump....And for some reason their answer sheets match....I would imagine that the person with the unusual score bump of 300 points + answers that match the other test taker would be suspected of cheating.

They said none of this in that letter. Stop making up nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:They also said they take into consideration her work in her test book


If she has the right answer but shows no work when a dozen lines of algebra are required.... How do you explain that?