Anonymous wrote:
Fleet wanted some things in its construction that were eliminated in order to - gasp - stay on budget. Didn't get everything the community wanted.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
This would be a much better idea. The WWCC site was in consideration for a new elementary school when they were determining where to build Fleet. They could convert it to a smaller choice school - parking is crap; but a decent plan could work there.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the CB? I want them to give APS the Walter Reed CC!!! Use it for amenities for the 4th H.S. it is so close.
And senior centers and the like can be in much smaller land. Come on, people. Would that help make the CC site a much better option for a 4th high school?!
Can of worms
But knock yourself out. I’ve always felt that was a ton wasted space, but I don’t use it- easy for me to say.
I live right next to it and agree it’s total wasted space. I’ve always thought that could be used for something better.
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
Don’t know how much room there is at Walter Reed. We absolutely cannot build a second class high school. If it needs both plots to have everything the other school have, do it. The whole county suffers if this H.S. is any less than the others. And the CB has to understand that.
And listen, we won’t be zoned for it. But I cannot fathom that we do anything less than 100%. I get there are very important programs at Walter Reed. But those programs can be moved. Aren’t those better suited to some of this commercial space than a H.S.?
We absolutely can build a second class HS and call it an option program, and that's what they're going to do. It's easier than taking community centers. If you argue you should have a neighborhood boundary, you still can't force them to give you what is not possible to give.
Not unless you promise a second HB, with the test scores to support it.
Familes aren’t interested in arl tech.wake up. You are talking about wasting so much money.
You must work for the county...
Look, I am just a realist. They cannot and will not give this school equivalent amenities because there are too many other expensive things on the horizon and there's a huge budget shortfall. It's APS that is going to bear the brunt of this. The County Board is not going to prioritize schools above the other things. I don't agree with them, but I acknowledge the reality. So if APS has less to work with, I don't think it can afford to build a 4th HS right now, even if we do need it, without making a lot of other cuts that would affect the whole system. And I don't think they are willing to do that. So if it's not going to be a true comprehensive HS with all the amenities, I don't think anyone should be forced there and it should be an option school. If they invest in making that option school awesome, the seats will fill even without a pool and a field.
And when they voted to spend 100+ million on the 770 seats for HB Woodlawn 3 years and 4 months ago, there were NO other expensive projects on the horizon???? We were not anticipating ANY projects at that time? Riiight. This budget shortfall comes completely out of the blue??
You got to be kidding!!!!!
It is this kind on unbelievable shortsightedness, mismanagement, and plain idiocy (and the lack of real leadership) that got us into this situation in the first place!
They will spend it, just not for YOU. Welcome to Arlington.
Wakefield is that nicest Hs
Fleet is going to be top of the line
Reed is getting every penny to be what they want
Abingdon - $$$$$
HB- you get the idea.
They spend it on everyone.
There is no precedent for them NOT doing what a neighborhood wants.
You are just making stuff up. You sound silly and uninformed.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the CB? I want them to give APS the Walter Reed CC!!! Use it for amenities for the 4th H.S. it is so close.
And senior centers and the like can be in much smaller land. Come on, people. Would that help make the CC site a much better option for a 4th high school?!
Can of worms
But knock yourself out. I’ve always felt that was a ton wasted space, but I don’t use it- easy for me to say.
I live right next to it and agree it’s total wasted space. I’ve always thought that could be used for something better.
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
Don’t know how much room there is at Walter Reed. We absolutely cannot build a second class high school. If it needs both plots to have everything the other school have, do it. The whole county suffers if this H.S. is any less than the others. And the CB has to understand that.
And listen, we won’t be zoned for it. But I cannot fathom that we do anything less than 100%. I get there are very important programs at Walter Reed. But those programs can be moved. Aren’t those better suited to some of this commercial space than a H.S.?
We absolutely can build a second class HS and call it an option program, and that's what they're going to do. It's easier than taking community centers. If you argue you should have a neighborhood boundary, you still can't force them to give you what is not possible to give.
Not unless you promise a second HB, with the test scores to support it.
Familes aren’t interested in arl tech.wake up. You are talking about wasting so much money.
You must work for the county...
Look, I am just a realist. They cannot and will not give this school equivalent amenities because there are too many other expensive things on the horizon and there's a huge budget shortfall. It's APS that is going to bear the brunt of this. The County Board is not going to prioritize schools above the other things. I don't agree with them, but I acknowledge the reality. So if APS has less to work with, I don't think it can afford to build a 4th HS right now, even if we do need it, without making a lot of other cuts that would affect the whole system. And I don't think they are willing to do that. So if it's not going to be a true comprehensive HS with all the amenities, I don't think anyone should be forced there and it should be an option school. If they invest in making that option school awesome, the seats will fill even without a pool and a field.
People aren’t interested in Arl tech. It’s not the answer. Just being realistic.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the CB? I want them to give APS the Walter Reed CC!!! Use it for amenities for the 4th H.S. it is so close.
And senior centers and the like can be in much smaller land. Come on, people. Would that help make the CC site a much better option for a 4th high school?!
Can of worms
But knock yourself out. I’ve always felt that was a ton wasted space, but I don’t use it- easy for me to say.
I live right next to it and agree it’s total wasted space. I’ve always thought that could be used for something better.
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the CB? I want them to give APS the Walter Reed CC!!! Use it for amenities for the 4th H.S. it is so close.
And senior centers and the like can be in much smaller land. Come on, people. Would that help make the CC site a much better option for a 4th high school?!
Can of worms
But knock yourself out. I’ve always felt that was a ton wasted space, but I don’t use it- easy for me to say.
I live right next to it and agree it’s total wasted space. I’ve always thought that could be used for something better.
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
Don’t know how much room there is at Walter Reed. We absolutely cannot build a second class high school. If it needs both plots to have everything the other school have, do it. The whole county suffers if this H.S. is any less than the others. And the CB has to understand that.
And listen, we won’t be zoned for it. But I cannot fathom that we do anything less than 100%. I get there are very important programs at Walter Reed. But those programs can be moved. Aren’t those better suited to some of this commercial space than a H.S.?
We absolutely can build a second class HS and call it an option program, and that's what they're going to do. It's easier than taking community centers. If you argue you should have a neighborhood boundary, you still can't force them to give you what is not possible to give.
Not unless you promise a second HB, with the test scores to support it.
Familes aren’t interested in arl tech.wake up. You are talking about wasting so much money.
You must work for the county...
Look, I am just a realist. They cannot and will not give this school equivalent amenities because there are too many other expensive things on the horizon and there's a huge budget shortfall. It's APS that is going to bear the brunt of this. The County Board is not going to prioritize schools above the other things. I don't agree with them, but I acknowledge the reality. So if APS has less to work with, I don't think it can afford to build a 4th HS right now, even if we do need it, without making a lot of other cuts that would affect the whole system. And I don't think they are willing to do that. So if it's not going to be a true comprehensive HS with all the amenities, I don't think anyone should be forced there and it should be an option school. If they invest in making that option school awesome, the seats will fill even without a pool and a field.
And when they voted to spend 100+ million on the 770 seats for HB Woodlawn 3 years and 4 months ago, there were NO other expensive projects on the horizon???? We were not anticipating ANY projects at that time? Riiight. This budget shortfall comes completely out of the blue??
You got to be kidding!!!!!
It is this kind on unbelievable shortsightedness, mismanagement, and plain idiocy (and the lack of real leadership) that got us into this situation in the first place!
They will spend it, just not for YOU. Welcome to Arlington.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the CB? I want them to give APS the Walter Reed CC!!! Use it for amenities for the 4th H.S. it is so close.
And senior centers and the like can be in much smaller land. Come on, people. Would that help make the CC site a much better option for a 4th high school?!
Can of worms
But knock yourself out. I’ve always felt that was a ton wasted space, but I don’t use it- easy for me to say.
I live right next to it and agree it’s total wasted space. I’ve always thought that could be used for something better.
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
Don’t know how much room there is at Walter Reed. We absolutely cannot build a second class high school. If it needs both plots to have everything the other school have, do it. The whole county suffers if this H.S. is any less than the others. And the CB has to understand that.
And listen, we won’t be zoned for it. But I cannot fathom that we do anything less than 100%. I get there are very important programs at Walter Reed. But those programs can be moved. Aren’t those better suited to some of this commercial space than a H.S.?
We absolutely can build a second class HS and call it an option program, and that's what they're going to do. It's easier than taking community centers. If you argue you should have a neighborhood boundary, you still can't force them to give you what is not possible to give.
Not unless you promise a second HB, with the test scores to support it.
Familes aren’t interested in arl tech.wake up. You are talking about wasting so much money.
You must work for the county...
Look, I am just a realist. They cannot and will not give this school equivalent amenities because there are too many other expensive things on the horizon and there's a huge budget shortfall. It's APS that is going to bear the brunt of this. The County Board is not going to prioritize schools above the other things. I don't agree with them, but I acknowledge the reality. So if APS has less to work with, I don't think it can afford to build a 4th HS right now, even if we do need it, without making a lot of other cuts that would affect the whole system. And I don't think they are willing to do that. So if it's not going to be a true comprehensive HS with all the amenities, I don't think anyone should be forced there and it should be an option school. If they invest in making that option school awesome, the seats will fill even without a pool and a field.
And when they voted to spend 100+ million on the 770 seats for HB Woodlawn 3 years and 4 months ago, there were NO other expensive projects on the horizon???? We were not anticipating ANY projects at that time? Riiight. This budget shortfall comes completely out of the blue??
You got to be kidding!!!!!
It is this kind on unbelievable shortsightedness, mismanagement, and plain idiocy (and the lack of real leadership) that got us into this situation in the first place!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the CB? I want them to give APS the Walter Reed CC!!! Use it for amenities for the 4th H.S. it is so close.
And senior centers and the like can be in much smaller land. Come on, people. Would that help make the CC site a much better option for a 4th high school?!
Can of worms
But knock yourself out. I’ve always felt that was a ton wasted space, but I don’t use it- easy for me to say.
I live right next to it and agree it’s total wasted space. I’ve always thought that could be used for something better.
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
Don’t know how much room there is at Walter Reed. We absolutely cannot build a second class high school. If it needs both plots to have everything the other school have, do it. The whole county suffers if this H.S. is any less than the others. And the CB has to understand that.
And listen, we won’t be zoned for it. But I cannot fathom that we do anything less than 100%. I get there are very important programs at Walter Reed. But those programs can be moved. Aren’t those better suited to some of this commercial space than a H.S.?
We absolutely can build a second class HS and call it an option program, and that's what they're going to do. It's easier than taking community centers. If you argue you should have a neighborhood boundary, you still can't force them to give you what is not possible to give.
Not unless you promise a second HB, with the test scores to support it.
Familes aren’t interested in arl tech.wake up. You are talking about wasting so much money.
You must work for the county...
Look, I am just a realist. They cannot and will not give this school equivalent amenities because there are too many other expensive things on the horizon and there's a huge budget shortfall. It's APS that is going to bear the brunt of this. The County Board is not going to prioritize schools above the other things. I don't agree with them, but I acknowledge the reality. So if APS has less to work with, I don't think it can afford to build a 4th HS right now, even if we do need it, without making a lot of other cuts that would affect the whole system. And I don't think they are willing to do that. So if it's not going to be a true comprehensive HS with all the amenities, I don't think anyone should be forced there and it should be an option school. If they invest in making that option school awesome, the seats will fill even without a pool and a field.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the CB? I want them to give APS the Walter Reed CC!!! Use it for amenities for the 4th H.S. it is so close.
And senior centers and the like can be in much smaller land. Come on, people. Would that help make the CC site a much better option for a 4th high school?!
Can of worms
But knock yourself out. I’ve always felt that was a ton wasted space, but I don’t use it- easy for me to say.
I live right next to it and agree it’s total wasted space. I’ve always thought that could be used for something better.
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
Don’t know how much room there is at Walter Reed. We absolutely cannot build a second class high school. If it needs both plots to have everything the other school have, do it. The whole county suffers if this H.S. is any less than the others. And the CB has to understand that.
And listen, we won’t be zoned for it. But I cannot fathom that we do anything less than 100%. I get there are very important programs at Walter Reed. But those programs can be moved. Aren’t those better suited to some of this commercial space than a H.S.?
We absolutely can build a second class HS and call it an option program, and that's what they're going to do. It's easier than taking community centers. If you argue you should have a neighborhood boundary, you still can't force them to give you what is not possible to give.
Not unless you promise a second HB, with the test scores to support it.
Familes aren’t interested in arl tech.wake up. You are talking about wasting so much money.
You must work for the county...
Look, I am just a realist. They cannot and will not give this school equivalent amenities because there are too many other expensive things on the horizon and there's a huge budget shortfall. It's APS that is going to bear the brunt of this. The County Board is not going to prioritize schools above the other things. I don't agree with them, but I acknowledge the reality. So if APS has less to work with, I don't think it can afford to build a 4th HS right now, even if we do need it, without making a lot of other cuts that would affect the whole system. And I don't think they are willing to do that. So if it's not going to be a true comprehensive HS with all the amenities, I don't think anyone should be forced there and it should be an option school. If they invest in making that option school awesome, the seats will fill even without a pool and a field.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the CB? I want them to give APS the Walter Reed CC!!! Use it for amenities for the 4th H.S. it is so close.
And senior centers and the like can be in much smaller land. Come on, people. Would that help make the CC site a much better option for a 4th high school?!
Can of worms
But knock yourself out. I’ve always felt that was a ton wasted space, but I don’t use it- easy for me to say.
I live right next to it and agree it’s total wasted space. I’ve always thought that could be used for something better.
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
Don’t know how much room there is at Walter Reed. We absolutely cannot build a second class high school. If it needs both plots to have everything the other school have, do it. The whole county suffers if this H.S. is any less than the others. And the CB has to understand that.
And listen, we won’t be zoned for it. But I cannot fathom that we do anything less than 100%. I get there are very important programs at Walter Reed. But those programs can be moved. Aren’t those better suited to some of this commercial space than a H.S.?
We absolutely can build a second class HS and call it an option program, and that's what they're going to do. It's easier than taking community centers. If you argue you should have a neighborhood boundary, you still can't force them to give you what is not possible to give.
Not unless you promise a second HB, with the test scores to support it.
Familes aren’t interested in arl tech.wake up. You are talking about wasting so much money.
You must work for the county...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wakefield’s future demographics aren’t really a county wide concern. Seats for all students needs to be the priority.
Well, that much has been clear all along. But they also don't have the money to take from other projects to give your neighborhood what you're demanding. Seats are seats, so there is no need for a neighborhood boundary. If the crowding gets too bad at the other schools, people will take the option. It's not going to have equivalent amenities, so you probably don't want that to be your zoned anyway. It will wind up with some amenities, but probably just the bare minimum, like what they will have at HB. You want the full service experience? Gotta go to Wakefield. Do you really think Ashton Heights and Lyon Park are going to let you pull them into your boundary? If past is any predictor, you're going to wind up with the rest of 22204 in your boundary AND a neighborhood school without all the amenities.
There is no precedent of a neighborhood school that doesn’t fully serve its walkable community. Quit making stuff up.
The boundaries are predictable. You know this. So, it's either an option school with fewer amenities, or they give you your neighborhood school, but not all the other things. You pick.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the CB? I want them to give APS the Walter Reed CC!!! Use it for amenities for the 4th H.S. it is so close.
And senior centers and the like can be in much smaller land. Come on, people. Would that help make the CC site a much better option for a 4th high school?!
Can of worms
But knock yourself out. I’ve always felt that was a ton wasted space, but I don’t use it- easy for me to say.
I live right next to it and agree it’s total wasted space. I’ve always thought that could be used for something better.
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
Don’t know how much room there is at Walter Reed. We absolutely cannot build a second class high school. If it needs both plots to have everything the other school have, do it. The whole county suffers if this H.S. is any less than the others. And the CB has to understand that.
And listen, we won’t be zoned for it. But I cannot fathom that we do anything less than 100%. I get there are very important programs at Walter Reed. But those programs can be moved. Aren’t those better suited to some of this commercial space than a H.S.?
We absolutely can build a second class HS and call it an option program, and that's what they're going to do. It's easier than taking community centers. If you argue you should have a neighborhood boundary, you still can't force them to give you what is not possible to give.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can we talk about the CB? I want them to give APS the Walter Reed CC!!! Use it for amenities for the 4th H.S. it is so close.
And senior centers and the like can be in much smaller land. Come on, people. Would that help make the CC site a much better option for a 4th high school?!
Can of worms
But knock yourself out. I’ve always felt that was a ton wasted space, but I don’t use it- easy for me to say.
I live right next to it and agree it’s total wasted space. I’ve always thought that could be used for something better.
If you do that, do you leave the Patrick Henry school untouched, or do you get to take it all? Maybe we could build a new school at Walter Reed to replace Patrick Henry?
Don’t know how much room there is at Walter Reed. We absolutely cannot build a second class high school. If it needs both plots to have everything the other school have, do it. The whole county suffers if this H.S. is any less than the others. And the CB has to understand that.
And listen, we won’t be zoned for it. But I cannot fathom that we do anything less than 100%. I get there are very important programs at Walter Reed. But those programs can be moved. Aren’t those better suited to some of this commercial space than a H.S.?