Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 12:49     Subject: AAP Letter today?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My bilingual child didn't get in

Cogat 134
DRA reading 24 (2nd grade)
99 percentile on SOL of 3 Rd grade both math and reading
Aced every ECART tests this year in 4th grade
GBRS unknown since wedon't know where to get the result



What should we do?

What is your DRA for 4th grade?
What is your GBRS for this year. My experience is that if you have disproportionately high test scores (cogat, WISC, etc.) but low GBRS, it shows imbalance overall. Write a parental letter, on appeal, indicating why your child's needs cannot be met in general education classroom. no emotional drama, just facts with evidence and specific anecdotes. We did not get in in second grade, we rested the case for two years, we got in this year with dramatically different approach plus we changed schools as well and the AART this time around provided much better support to us.





How do we change schools unless we actually move to a different school zone unless we use my sister,s address if she okay
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 12:48     Subject: AAP Letter today?
Anonymous wrote:How do you get high GBRS ?

Entirely controlled by school teachers or AARP teacher?


Controlled by aarp teachers, aka senior citizens.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 12:43     Subject: AAP Letter today?
Anonymous wrote:My bilingual child didn't get in

Cogat 134
DRA reading 24 (2nd grade)
99 percentile on SOL of 3 Rd grade both math and reading
Aced every ECART tests this year in 4th grade
GBRS unknown since wedon't know where to get the result



What should we do?





Email your AART and ask for the packet, including the GBRS.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 12:43     Subject: AAP Letter today?
Anonymous wrote:My bilingual child didn't get in

Cogat 134
DRA reading 24 (2nd grade)
99 percentile on SOL of 3 Rd grade both math and reading
Aced every ECART tests this year in 4th grade
GBRS unknown since wedon't know where to get the result



What should we do?

What is your DRA for 4th grade?
What is your GBRS for this year. My experience is that if you have disproportionately high test scores (cogat, WISC, etc.) but low GBRS, it shows imbalance overall. Write a parental letter, on appeal, indicating why your child's needs cannot be met in general education classroom. no emotional drama, just facts with evidence and specific anecdotes. We did not get in in second grade, we rested the case for two years, we got in this year with dramatically different approach plus we changed schools as well and the AART this time around provided much better support to us.



Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 12:40     Subject: Re:AAP Letter today?
22101.

In!

DS is bilingual (though not in the language of the school's immersion program).

Letter arrived yesterday, followed by orientation email this A.M.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 12:33     Subject: AAP Letter today?
My bilingual child didn't get in

Cogat 134
DRA reading 24 (2nd grade)
99 percentile on SOL of 3 Rd grade both math and reading
Aced every ECART tests this year in 4th grade
GBRS unknown since wedon't know where to get the result



What should we do?



Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 12:19     Subject: AAP Letter today?
How do you get high GBRS ?

Entirely controlled by school teachers or AARP teacher?
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 12:04     Subject: AAP Letter today?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Thanks. My child's scores are good
NNAT 145,
COGAT 131
GBRS 11
DRA 24, hoping additional testing will support the appeal.

What were the cogat sub scores? The 24 DRA is quite low for kids applying to AAP. If the cogat verbal score is also low, the committee probably thought your child couldn't handle AAP language arts. I would then focus on showing that your child can handle the language arts portion of AAP when you write your appeal.


The verbal score of COGAT is low but English is the second language in our household. The child was introduced to english in Pre-K. She is bilingual and is doing well on our native language as well.


That should make the appeal easier. I would emphasize that she is bilingual, perhaps include a work sample in her native language, and if you have anything showing good growth in English skills, add that. I would imagine her Quantitative and Nonverbal scores were quite high, so also give examples of why her needs in math and science can't be met in gen ed. I know they have a box to check for ESOL, but I wonder whether the AAP panel somehow didn't understand the ESOL status.


Thanks for sharing the advice, very helpful. Since she cleared the English Proficiency test in her K she was not put in ESOL category. She is doing well reading and writing English but still getting there in terms of vocabulary. We feel that is the reason for 112 in Verbal section. She is a 99 percentile in Non-verbal and 97 percentile in Math.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 11:23     Subject: AAP Letter today?
That checklist was a joke, not serious. Or at least, it should have been one.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 11:21     Subject: AAP Letter today?
Anonymous wrote:tips to get to AAP at certain schools

-must kiss ass your AARP teacher that gives you a glowing report / recomend
-same with your kid's teacher
-bake them goodies; give nice gifts & gift cards Xmas and Teachers' appreciation Days
-decent test scores; above 80 percentile on COGAT
-be an active member of PTA
-active volunteer at your kid's school

what else?


Thanks for the helpful checklist. I checked "no" on 1,2,3,5 and "yes" on 4 and 6. GBRS was abysmal because of no. 2 on your list. We had solid (98 percentile) scores. I was an active volunteer in my kid's class because I am an educator and wanted to see my kid and what he is doing. we did not get in. We rested the case for a year because we changed the schools and my kid naturally evolved academically. Got near perfect Math SOL in 3rd grade and 99 percentile in repeat school-based CoGAT. GBRS this time around was 15. Not because I kiss ass of my kid's teacher. I hardly go to the school as it is far from us and I have two kids in two different schools. I genuinely believe that the entire AAP packet must be balanced. Disproportionately high test scores and abysmal GBRS raises red flags. The second time around, the packet was balanced all around. We will defer for a year to start the AAP journey in middle school because we only have 1 year left of elementary and do not want to disrupt the academic life at this stage.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 11:02     Subject: AAP Letter today?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:tips to get to AAP at certain schools

-must kiss ass your AARP teacher that gives you a glowing report / recomend
-same with your kid's teacher
-bake them goodies; give nice gifts & gift cards Xmas and Teachers' appreciation Days
-decent test scores; above 80 percentile on COGAT
-be an active member of PTA
-active volunteer at your kid's school

what else?




FYI
This post is the same person or the upset parent that his/her 4th grader 9 y/o dd didn't get into AAP with a high cogat and sol scores. Had to fight to get into level 2 school based aap....
This parent is very observant & perceptive but this parent did not do any of the above tips! But didn't make connections with that school especially with the AARP teacher...
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 10:57     Subject: AAP Letter today?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:FCPS elementary schools are so big that a child getting that much facetime with a principal is at an advantage over a similarly-bright but very quiet child.


Her kid was in the principal's office because he was in trouble. No, that did not help him get into AAP.


disagree.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 10:55     Subject: AAP Letter today?
Anonymous wrote:FCPS elementary schools are so big that a child getting that much facetime with a principal is at an advantage over a similarly-bright but very quiet child.


Her kid was in the principal's office because he was in trouble. No, that did not help him get into AAP.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 10:34     Subject: AAP Letter today?
FCPS elementary schools are so big that a child getting that much facetime with a principal is at an advantage over a similarly-bright but very quiet child.
Anonymous
Post 04/10/2018 10:31     Subject: AAP Letter today?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:tips to get to AAP at certain schools

-must kiss ass your AARP teacher that gives you a glowing report / recomend
-same with your kid's teacher
-bake them goodies; give nice gifts & gift cards Xmas and Teachers' appreciation Days
-decent test scores; above 80 percentile on COGAT
-be an active member of PTA
-active volunteer at your kid's school

what else?



To be honest, we didn’t do anyone of them. And 80 percentile ain’t gonna cut it.


While I don't buy that there is this much favoritism I do think that when a parent is more visible the child is also more visible. The school committee may have more to write about on the GBRS form and the like if parent/child are simply in their face more.


My kid spent half of first grade in the principal's office. He's visible and well-known, as am I (for having to go pick him up). I guess PP is right, since he got in.