Anonymous
02/19/2018 22:37
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to post the video because they call the child names. I don't agree with saying nasty things about children in general, and it's clear this child has a developmental disorder. I have posted an article that goes into further detail below.
To summarize the situation a child screamed for 8 hours straight on a flight from Germany to the USA and was running around the cabin and climbing on seats.
My question is why wasn't an emergency stop made and the family removed from the plan? The running and climbing where safety issues and people are removed for far less.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/travel/news/article.cfm?c_id=7&objectid=11994943
OMG! Parent should be jailed for child neglect!
Anonymous
02/19/2018 22:34
Subject: Re:8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would no one tell him off? He's not a baby but a child who can process some communication. Unbelievable. I would have scolded him, SN or not. There's something called common courtesy.
You obviously don't have a kid or you're a jerk or both.
DP... this is partly why there are so many out of control kids. No one willing to scold them. Adults can't stand up to a toddler now when the toddler is doing something wrong because it might hurt their feelings? The expectations Americans have their childrens' behavior is pathetically low.
--signed a parent of two children who have flown with them across the atlantic a few times.
Agree. I would have said something for sure.
Anonymous
02/19/2018 21:25
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Special needs or not, a few minutes of seeing that mom's own behavior is all I need to know to understand why her child behaves the way he does.
+1.
Anonymous
02/19/2018 21:23
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
So the passenger starts filming before the plane takes off and continues to film the entire flight? That's just very strange
Anonymous
02/19/2018 21:13
Subject: Re:8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Watch the video. He starts screaming even before they leave the gate. It's awful--I think I would have lost my mind. Even if the kid did have a developmental delay or SN (and it's not clear that he did), nobody was doing anything to redirect, distract, etc.
+1
I watched the entire video. I was pulling my hair out after only a few minutes - I cannot imagine 8 hrs. of this. If the child did have SN, I think it's only fair to have informed the other passengers before the plane even took off. There might have been more understanding of the situation had everyone known whether there was a developmental issue or whether the parents simply refused to make him behave. Climbing on people's seats??? The airline attendants should have - at the very least - made sure the parents put a stop to that. Other people have paid dearly for their own tickets, and to be subjected to 8 hrs. of having a kid climb on your seat? No way.
My nerves were on end and I was already agitated after just 4 minutes of the video. That was awful, SN or not. Just awful. This was not just one person's account or a neatly edited video, listen to the passengers at the end- he did scream for 8 hours.
How did the FA not tell him he couldn't climb on the seats?
Anonymous
02/19/2018 20:20
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Emergency stop? Delaying everyone? Not sure that’s helpful to the other passengers. Screaming kid is a pain but, not a risk?
He wasn't just screaming, but running around the aisle and climbing on seats and playing with the overhead
Was he screaming while climbing?
No he was quiet. His screams got worse because the mother tried to change behavior. This kid obviously has serious delays. And people are being very cruel to him and his parents. Flying obviously stressed the heck out of him.
I'm sure he was annoying to listen to, but I feel worse for the parents than the other passengers.
+1
So he should be allowed to climb other people’s seats?
Anonymous
02/19/2018 19:53
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Emergency stop? Delaying everyone? Not sure that’s helpful to the other passengers. Screaming kid is a pain but, not a risk?
He wasn't just screaming, but running around the aisle and climbing on seats and playing with the overhead
Was he screaming while climbing?
No he was quiet. His screams got worse because the mother tried to change behavior. This kid obviously has serious delays. And people are being very cruel to him and his parents. Flying obviously stressed the heck out of him.
I'm sure he was annoying to listen to, but I feel worse for the parents than the other passengers.
+1
Anonymous
02/19/2018 11:55
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Special needs or not, a few minutes of seeing that mom's own behavior is all I need to know to understand why her child behaves the way he does.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 21:26
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:it was pretty obvious that the child was special needs. he didn't seem to have any words.
Yes, and the other was aware of this BEFORE boarding the plane. Hopefully the result of the video is that she won’t fly with him again, and others will think twice before doing so. I’m glad the video was shared.
Its public transportation. Kids with special needs are part of the public. They have just as much of a right to be there as you do.
Not if they're a public disturbance, especially for an extended period of time (that goes for everyone - special needs or otherwise).
+1
+2
You buy a ticket for a seat on a plane. You aren't guaranteed a ride free from disturbances. Kids with SNs are part of society and when they are this young, some can be extremely difficult. Don't like it? Too bad.
If you don’t control your kid, people post stuff online. Don’t like it? Too bad.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 21:24
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Interestingly this guy is the only one who weighed in on this situation. None of the other passengers came forward. No one asked for a refund. He uploaded the video 6 months after this happened. Sounds like he was trying to create traffic for his youtube channel.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 20:43
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:And everyone on the flight survived! What a time to be alive!
Be thankful you don’t have a child like that. Have compassion for the parents, who have as much right as you do to be there. Put your headphones on and take a nap. You probably annoyed the hell out of someone at one point as a child.
What the PPs are saying is that the boys parents, who refused to do anything about the very obvious situation, refused to do anything about the situation. They sadly felt that if they have to listen to it every day, so do all 100 or so passengers.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 17:32
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
I don’t have a special needs child but I was still terrified of bringing my 4 and 2 year old on a two hour flight. I brought snacks, suckers for takeoff/landing, temporary tattoos, sticker scenes, mini etch a sketch, multiple different art projects and yes an iPad for each loaded with downloaded shows. I can’t imagine going on the two hour flight with just an iPad. Nothing downloaded. My two year old bores easily and wanted something new every 15 minutes and I was happy to be so well stocked.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 17:29
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:it was pretty obvious that the child was special needs. he didn't seem to have any words.
Yes, and the other was aware of this BEFORE boarding the plane. Hopefully the result of the video is that she won’t fly with him again, and others will think twice before doing so. I’m glad the video was shared.
Its public transportation. Kids with special needs are part of the public. They have just as much of a right to be there as you do.
Not if they're a public disturbance, especially for an extended period of time (that goes for everyone - special needs or otherwise).
+1
+2
You buy a ticket for a seat on a plane. You aren't guaranteed a ride free from disturbances. Kids with SNs are part of society and when they are this young, some can be extremely difficult. Don't like it? Too bad.
Anonymous
02/18/2018 17:26
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/02/14/rude-passenger-booted-from-delta-flight-for-screaming-about-being-seated-near-baby.html
this is great. I love when the woman who refers to the attendant by first name and then drops the "you might not have a job tomorrow tabitha"
At which pointin time,. Tabitha tells the people that "I don't want her on MY plane" Miss bitch changes tune real fast. LOVE it...
This is AWESOME. That woman behaved horrifically. Team Tabitha!!
So glad she was booted off.
Side note - can you imagine this woman on the flight in question (the 8hr flight with the screaming boy). I guess I'd be more sympathetic to her if she behaved that way, but the baby she was complaining about wasn't even crying!
Anonymous
02/18/2018 17:18
Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At a minimum, I am shocked the mother was not told the child could not climb all over the plane. Did the flight attendants do ANYTHING??
THIS. Anyone else, adult or child, climbing on seats and roaming around, would have been told immediately to return to his or her seats. That is not only incredibly rude behavior, it's also unsafe. I'm appalled the flight attendants didn't put a stop to it.
How did you gather of all of this from a 4 minute video?
Have you even watched the video??