Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 00:10     Subject: Re:Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, many lawyers and CEO's like my husband who frankly don't know a thing about appropriate development for a 5 year old. That's why this is a bizarre choice to leave up to parents. As the numbers show, either rich kids are slower, or this practice has a perceived advantage. If it didn't you'd see the redshirting option applied equally across the board.

Look, its not a big deal to admit that you want advantages for your child or that you have fears or worries about their potential.


This again!!! Of course I was worried they wouldn’t succeed as the youngest!!! That’s why I did it. What is wrong with you?
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 00:07     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love all the people in this thread who would never let their kids out of a private school or go to a school where their kids are a racial minority or who have a trust fund (!!) braying on about how their kids are learning so much resilience or whatever code word is popular now by being the youngest. Lol. Idiocy.

+1. Anyway they should be happy their kids will learn so much about resilience trying to catch up to the redshirted kids. Should be a win win for everyone



The redshirted kids? Who would have to catch up with them? They are the slow ones.


Then why do you care so much?


Because I believe that children are entitled to equality in public education. That means no public school education loopholes for parents worried about height and feelings etc.


Really? This is why you think parents agonize over the decision to redshirt? Some kids are in a gray area. If my kid was pushed ahead I am 100% certain she would require the time and efforts of the reading and math specialists. Not because she’s dumb or has an LD, but because she is not ready for it. She is days from the cutoff. I’d be taking away those services from kids who really needed them.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 00:05     Subject: Re:Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Yes, many lawyers and CEO's like my husband who frankly don't know a thing about appropriate development for a 5 year old. That's why this is a bizarre choice to leave up to parents. As the numbers show, either rich kids are slower, or this practice has a perceived advantage. If it didn't you'd see the redshirting option applied equally across the board.

Look, its not a big deal to admit that you want advantages for your child or that you have fears or worries about their potential.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 00:02     Subject: Re:Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you have to manipulate confidence, its unwarranted. That is the point.


Ok, then it’s unwarranted for four-year-olds to be expected to be in kindergarten and Reading, writing, etc. Some can do it, most will struggle and fee like they suck because they are fish trying to climb a tree. Nearly all would be better spent doing something else.
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Ok, then stop putting 7 year olds in K and let it become 4 year old appropriate again. Some will suck at it their whole life, some will be better at it, just like at 4.


Again, we are not talking about 7 year olds in K. This thread has mainly focused on late September birthdays. There is no difference between them and the other fall birthdays. They turn the same age as the other kids in the academic school year. And K is not more academic because of redshirting. There is more redshirting because many view it and developmentally inappropriate.
Anonymous
Post 01/26/2018 00:00     Subject: Re:Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm talking about public schools. Yes, a wealth disparity exists, yes its growing. Lets not pretend that we can wipe it out of existence by foregoing piano en masse, but we do have a different consideration when it comes to public education. A "rule" that only/mostly benefits the children who need it least, in public education, is a bad rule, IMO. I'm not attaching any morality to anyones decision, but to the concept as a whole.


So you're totally cool with redshirting in private schools then?


Ive never thought about it.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2018 23:59     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love all the people in this thread who would never let their kids out of a private school or go to a school where their kids are a racial minority or who have a trust fund (!!) braying on about how their kids are learning so much resilience or whatever code word is popular now by being the youngest. Lol. Idiocy.

+1. Anyway they should be happy their kids will learn so much about resilience trying to catch up to the redshirted kids. Should be a win win for everyone



The redshirted kids? Who would have to catch up with them? They are the slow ones.


Then why do you care so much?


Because I believe that children are entitled to equality in public education. That means no public school education loopholes for parents worried about height and feelings etc.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2018 23:57     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love all the people in this thread who would never let their kids out of a private school or go to a school where their kids are a racial minority or who have a trust fund (!!) braying on about how their kids are learning so much resilience or whatever code word is popular now by being the youngest. Lol. Idiocy.

+1. Anyway they should be happy their kids will learn so much about resilience trying to catch up to the redshirted kids. Should be a win win for everyone


Everyone wins!
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2018 23:56     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love all the people in this thread who would never let their kids out of a private school or go to a school where their kids are a racial minority or who have a trust fund (!!) braying on about how their kids are learning so much resilience or whatever code word is popular now by being the youngest. Lol. Idiocy.

+1. Anyway they should be happy their kids will learn so much about resilience trying to catch up to the redshirted kids. Should be a win win for everyone



The redshirted kids? Who would have to catch up with them? They are the slow ones.


Then why do you care so much?
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2018 23:55     Subject: Re:Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you have to manipulate confidence, its unwarranted. That is the point.


Ok, then it’s unwarranted for four-year-olds to be expected to be in kindergarten and Reading, writing, etc. Some can do it, most will struggle and fee like they suck because they are fish trying to climb a tree. Nearly all would be better spent doing something else.
\

Ok, then stop putting 7 year olds in K and let it become 4 year old appropriate again. Some will suck at it their whole life, some will be better at it, just like at 4.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2018 23:54     Subject: Re:Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:If you have to manipulate confidence, its unwarranted. That is the point.


Ok, then it’s unwarranted for four-year-olds to be expected to be in kindergarten and Reading, writing, etc. Some can do it, most will struggle and fee like they suck because they are fish trying to climb a tree. Nearly all would be better spent doing something else.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2018 23:49     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love all the people in this thread who would never let their kids out of a private school or go to a school where their kids are a racial minority or who have a trust fund (!!) braying on about how their kids are learning so much resilience or whatever code word is popular now by being the youngest. Lol. Idiocy.

+1. Anyway they should be happy their kids will learn so much about resilience trying to catch up to the redshirted kids. Should be a win win for everyone



The redshirted kids? Who would have to catch up with them? They are the slow ones.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2018 23:48     Subject: Re:Do you consider redshirting cheating?
If you have to manipulate confidence, its unwarranted. That is the point.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2018 23:45     Subject: Re:Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:I get really confident when I play tennis against children, too.

Who cares if I have to play children to feel confident, all that matters are my feeeeellllllinnnnngs.




If you feel like you suck because everything is too hard then you don’t want to learn. Kids are little balls of emotions. I don’t get your weird Tennis comment. As another poster mentioned this thread has mostly focused on late September birthdays. Adults vs. kids?
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2018 23:15     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Anonymous wrote:Love all the people in this thread who would never let their kids out of a private school or go to a school where their kids are a racial minority or who have a trust fund (!!) braying on about how their kids are learning so much resilience or whatever code word is popular now by being the youngest. Lol. Idiocy.

+1. Anyway they should be happy their kids will learn so much about resilience trying to catch up to the redshirted kids. Should be a win win for everyone
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2018 23:07     Subject: Do you consider redshirting cheating?
Love all the people in this thread who would never let their kids out of a private school or go to a school where their kids are a racial minority or who have a trust fund (!!) braying on about how their kids are learning so much resilience or whatever code word is popular now by being the youngest. Lol. Idiocy.