Anonymous
11/03/2017 22:32
Subject: Re:Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
The Clintons and their surrogates have begun spinning this whole sorry saga to minimize the damage.
Wait for endless versions to come out with revisions and corrections and what not. This is their MO - you can't trust anything they say.
Wait for endless versions to come out with revisions and corrections and what not. This is their MO - you can't trust anything they say.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 22:11
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
DWS signed a financial agreement with the Clinton campaign for them to control pretty much all the DNC funds.
Horrific.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 22:06
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
The original documents were not marked confidential. The ones from wikileaks were.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 21:25
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
"Clinton Cash" - Look it up.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 21:21
Subject: Re:Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For Gods sake, people, Bernie isn't even a Democrat. The DNC owed no allegiance to him. I'm not a big fan of Hillary, but she paid her dues in the party. I liked Bernie at first, but his far left views were too much for this moderate Democrat, let alone the rest of the country. Bernie never would have won the Presidency. What I regret is that Hillary was such a dominant force in the party that it probably curtailed the ambition of promising Democratic candidates who may have been better positioned to run against Trump.
All you're saying with your "For Gods sake" bs is that the Democratic Party is run for a clique of insiders to the detriment of both party members and the country. Nice work!
The idea that Bernie wouldn't have won is laughable. He's the most popular politician in the country! People are less hung up on this "far left views" than old folks and insiders imagine. They're sick of dishonesty (like HRC has in spades, this latest news just adding fuel to the fire) and find his honesty refreshing. You should get out and actually hear what people think of him.
People like you are why we have President Trump, your gullibility for the nonsense peddled by the cynics and psychopaths that run the DNC has helped than mis-behave and get away with it. I know it was not as you had planned, but it is certainly is the fault of your kind.
[b]BDon’t Dems and Hillary supporters think it’s weird that Hillary and her squad lie, mislead, and obfuscate so much? Do you guys know many people like that in your real lives? I don’t, and I know lots of successful people, including politicians. I don’t understand how such rampant deception isn’t a major turn off for you.
I know a couple of high up dem strategists/darlings. They don't think they lie, but they spin, spin, spin like there is no tomorrow. Everything is positive, great, grand! Mostly, I just don't believe anything they say.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 20:50
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
DWS signed a financial agreement with the Clinton campaign for them to control pretty much all the DNC funds.
Wow. Just wow. Thank you, Donna!
We love you for being honest here.
Read the follow on links. Hillary raised over $500M and when she could by nomination, passed most of it on to state committees, the DNC itself and her campaign. If Bernie had gotten out of the race earlier, after he was eliminated but before Hillary had made it official, she could have passed more money on in a more timely basis.
Does anyone care to share a detailed accounting? HRC partisans claimed she raised the state committees a pile of cash, but I've also seen reports that much of that cash came back to Brooklyn. Absent an accounting, preferably an audited one, it's going to be hard to know who to trust.
According to reports, she raised something like $529M, with $168M going to the campaign, about $120?M going to the DNC and the rest to the states, including states she didn't win.
Source?
https://www.opensecrets.org/jfc/summary.php?id=C00586537
But there have been reports than the money was first transferred to state parties and then back to either the DNC or the Clinton campaign. This is why a thorough accounting is desirable, especially in light of Brazile's allegation that the agreement was for a time kept from her.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 20:40
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
Anonymous wrote:Democrats are as unethical as Republicans. They are just less upfront about it.
Lincoln actually got nominated in 1860 through the same kind of arrangement, over an overly radical abolitionist.
I don't think the problem is really with the fixing. It's that Clinton just didn't have the right kind of emotional intelligence style and communication skills for this particular role.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 20:37
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
DWS signed a financial agreement with the Clinton campaign for them to control pretty much all the DNC funds.
Wow. Just wow. Thank you, Donna!
We love you for being honest here.
Read the follow on links. Hillary raised over $500M and when she could by nomination, passed most of it on to state committees, the DNC itself and her campaign. If Bernie had gotten out of the race earlier, after he was eliminated but before Hillary had made it official, she could have passed more money on in a more timely basis.
Does anyone care to share a detailed accounting? HRC partisans claimed she raised the state committees a pile of cash, but I've also seen reports that much of that cash came back to Brooklyn. Absent an accounting, preferably an audited one, it's going to be hard to know who to trust.
According to reports, she raised something like $529M, with $168M going to the campaign, about $120?M going to the DNC and the rest to the states, including states she didn't win.
Source?
Anonymous
11/03/2017 20:19
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
DWS signed a financial agreement with the Clinton campaign for them to control pretty much all the DNC funds.
Wow. Just wow. Thank you, Donna!
We love you for being honest here.
Read the follow on links. Hillary raised over $500M and when she could by nomination, passed most of it on to state committees, the DNC itself and her campaign. If Bernie had gotten out of the race earlier, after he was eliminated but before Hillary had made it official, she could have passed more money on in a more timely basis.
Does anyone care to share a detailed accounting? HRC partisans claimed she raised the state committees a pile of cash, but I've also seen reports that much of that cash came back to Brooklyn. Absent an accounting, preferably an audited one, it's going to be hard to know who to trust.
According to reports, she raised something like $529M, with $168M going to the campaign, about $120?M going to the DNC and the rest to the states, including states she didn't win.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 20:18
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
so basically, Brazille was wrong.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 20:04
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
DWS signed a financial agreement with the Clinton campaign for them to control pretty much all the DNC funds.
Wow. Just wow. Thank you, Donna!
We love you for being honest here.
Read the follow on links. Hillary raised over $500M and when she could by nomination, passed most of it on to state committees, the DNC itself and her campaign. If Bernie had gotten out of the race earlier, after he was eliminated but before Hillary had made it official, she could have passed more money on in a more timely basis.
Does anyone care to share a detailed accounting? HRC partisans claimed she raised the state committees a pile of cash, but I've also seen reports that much of that cash came back to Brooklyn. Absent an accounting, preferably an audited one, it's going to be hard to know who to trust.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 19:37
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/memo-reveals-details-hillary-clinton-dnc-deal-n817411
However, the memo also made clear that the arrangement pertained to only the general election, not the primary season, and it left open the possibility that it would sign similar agreements with other candidates.
"Nothing in this agreement shall be construed to violate the DNC's obligation of impartiality and neutrality through the Nominating process. All activities performed under this agreement will be focused exclusively on preparations for the General Election and not the Democratic Primary," the memo states.
However, the memo also made clear that the arrangement pertained to only the general election, not the primary season, and it left open the possibility that it would sign similar agreements with other candidates.
"Nothing in this agreement shall be construed to violate the DNC's obligation of impartiality and neutrality through the Nominating process. All activities performed under this agreement will be focused exclusively on preparations for the General Election and not the Democratic Primary," the memo states.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 19:32
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
DWS signed a financial agreement with the Clinton campaign for them to control pretty much all the DNC funds.
Wow. Just wow. Thank you, Donna!
We love you for being honest here.
Read the follow on links. Hillary raised over $500M and when she could by nomination, passed most of it on to state committees, the DNC itself and her campaign. If Bernie had gotten out of the race earlier, after he was eliminated but before Hillary had made it official, she could have passed more money on in a more timely basis.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 19:28
Subject: Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774
DWS signed a financial agreement with the Clinton campaign for them to control pretty much all the DNC funds.
Wow. Just wow. Thank you, Donna!
We love you for being honest here.
Anonymous
11/03/2017 17:38
Subject: Re:Donna puts the blame on HRC and DWS for the DNC debacle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were Bernie I would be soooooo pissed. He really was screwed over by HRC and the DNC.
Look, I don't love Hillary or what her campaign did. But as a Democrat, I have a hard time getting upset that someone who wasn't a Democrat didn't get the Democratic Party nomination for president. He could have run as an independent, but he didn't. I'm not surprised that the system was rigged for someone who actually belongs to the party to get the party nomination. What party wants to nominate someone who does not even belong to that party? Seriously.
Here's the thing: Bernie never joined the party but he has caucused with the Democrats for ever and a day. Besides, I consider Bernie to more representative of Democratic goals and ideals as compared to Hillary who is the Democratic version of a neo-con and is a shill for banking and other corporate interests.
Belonging to a party is not enough ...... one expects those who belong to the party to actually adhere to the goals and ideals of the party. Sanders does that in spades but Hillary talks the talk but does not walk the walk.
Sanders is uncommitted to being committed to the democratic party. Lack of commitment is a poor personality trait in a government official.
A governmental official should be committed to citizens over party. The present Democratic Party is an obvious failure. Many voters respect Bernie for the simple reason he values his fellow Americans over the scuzzy insiders in the DNC. And yes, Bernie has caucused with the Dems and worked with DSCC fundraisers for years.
Sanders movement, all too often chose to attack rather than engage. I found this technique quite similar to Trumps.