The responses to this forum is why a civil war is coming...

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Anonymous wrote:Utter and total clown college.

Not true. And Liberty students don’t care what you think.

They should care what hiring managers think, though.

-DP

I think it's safe to say many kids have no choice but to attend Liberty. Do you all really believe their parents said pick whatever college, and their kids said oh daddy, please I want to go to Liberty and be in mandatory church service or whatever every day on a dry campus with rigid dating rules!!! Come on. Parents said you are going. Unless kid wants to be a pastor I suppose.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a hiring manager and a LU grad resume passed my desk last week. While my politics are not liberal and the job is not related to science, my immediate reaction was "Heck no!"

Same here, but I have a similar response to resumes that list UC Berkeley.

Then you shouldn't be a hiring manager

x100.

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:I am a hiring manager and a LU grad resume passed my desk last week. While my politics are not liberal and the job is not related to science, my immediate reaction was "Heck no!"

Same here, but I have a similar response to resumes that list UC Berkeley.

Then you shouldn't be a hiring manager

x100.

So, the short answer is, yes, Liberty is an accredited college.

BUT, it comes with a lot of political baggage courtesy of of Jerry Falwell and JF Jr. There are some decent programs there (like Sports Med), and some students do well. There are conservative networked people who seek out Liberty grads to hire and promote.

BUT, most of academia is skeptical of Liberty overall, especially when it comes to science and anything culture related. Even religion. I am a graduate of a Christian college and most of my classmates would be skeptical of Liberty in terms of religion (although, some of my classmates became more conservative in the tea party & Trump polarization).

I have a family member currently at Liberty. I am dubious. My Christian conservative parents (who made me go to Christian college) are dubious. It is a small conservative slice that respects Liberty, and maybe a few fields that go hand in hand or aren't at odds with with conservative views (like Sports med).

I don't doubt there are some good professors at Liberty. As a Christian academic, I don't know why they'd agree to work there. Falwell Jr is only interested in promoting himself and his outlandish statements (look up the video on guns and Muslims -- yuck). There is no free speech (I had a friend get kicked out of Liberty for making lewd comments about Falwell Sr on a radio show). It pains me to see money go to Falwell and young people influenced by his self-promoting false Christianity. He is the worst kind of pharisee. I also worry about the intellectual abilities of students who don't see this and choose to go there.

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Anonymous wrote:I review hundreds of resumes. I don’t read any further once I see Liberty University.

Your body your choice.

I do the same with every college whose students have rioted against free speech.

Well, then, you too are too poorly educated to tell when conservatives are lying to you.
The truth is that conservatives are the main people suppressing free speech on campus, and the rightwing propaganda machine has concocted lies about it to harm universities, since universities are a threat to those who would spread propaganda.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/26/the-free-speech-panic-censorship-how-the-right-concocted-a-crisis

This accords with my experience: that the whole thing about free speech on campus is bull, concocted by conservative liars.
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/02/why-do-those-college-students-hate-free-speech-so-much
And that people like Ben Shapiro are afraid to debate actual real intellectuals because every time they do they get outclassed.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not hire for a position where critical thinking or sound judgement is required. Would probably hire for sales or where someone needs to follow orders.

If you're discriminating against Liberty grads because you think (wrongly) that they don't possess "critical thinking" skills, you're in the extreme minority.

But please, keep telling us what a smart atheist you are.

They are required to take creationism as a class. If they accept this and continue along their "educational" path, then yes, I take issue with that. I would not hire someone who exercised such poor judgment and exhibited such lack of critical thinking.

Sometimes people have to regurgitate something they don’t believe, just to get through a hurdle. My friend’s son is finding that out right now as he tries to pass NSL Gov for the third time so he can graduate HS.

I disagree with their politics and policies, but they provide the scholarships to turn a number of poor kids with few prospects into adults with degrees. Without those degrees, there’s not much future. Student debt is crushing. Would you really say a degree from Liberty is worse than no degree at all, plus $20k in loans from 5 semesters?

I would advise my child to go to a community college and go where they can to finish up than to get a degree from Liberty.

And to add, I would also advise my child to go to any public university in Virginia before going to Liberty.

It is that bad.

The people defending it are clearly fine with indoctrination, which is why they are defending it to fiercely. It just goes to show what kind of cultish behavior the Evangelicals exhibit.

Oh, my. It’s so bad you would advise your child to go to a (gulp) PUBLIC UNIVERSITY ??? I’m clutching my pearls here.

PP said ANY public university. There are some that have acceptance rates of over 90%.
- not PP

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Anonymous wrote:I would not hire for a position where critical thinking or sound judgement is required. Would probably hire for sales or where someone needs to follow orders.

If you're discriminating against Liberty grads because you think (wrongly) that they don't possess "critical thinking" skills, you're in the extreme minority.

But please, keep telling us what a smart atheist you are.

They are required to take creationism as a class. If they accept this and continue along their "educational" path, then yes, I take issue with that. I would not hire someone who exercised such poor judgment and exhibited such lack of critical thinking.

Sometimes people have to regurgitate something they don’t believe, just to get through a hurdle. My friend’s son is finding that out right now as he tries to pass NSL Gov for the third time so he can graduate HS.

I disagree with their politics and policies, but they provide the scholarships to turn a number of poor kids with few prospects into adults with degrees. Without those degrees, there’s not much future. Student debt is crushing. Would you really say a degree from Liberty is worse than no degree at all, plus $20k in loans from 5 semesters?

I would advise my child to go to a community college and go where they can to finish up than to get a degree from Liberty.

And to add, I would also advise my child to go to any public university in Virginia before going to Liberty.

It is that bad.

The people defending it are clearly fine with indoctrination, which is why they are defending it to fiercely. It just goes to show what kind of cultish behavior the Evangelicals exhibit.

Oh, my. It’s so bad you would advise your child to go to a (gulp) PUBLIC UNIVERSITY ??? I’m clutching my pearls here.

Anonymous wrote: This is an accredited university, even?

It is, but that is really no guide. The for-profits have formed their own accreditation agencies to meet the formal requirements for federal title IV funding.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not hire for a position where critical thinking or sound judgement is required. Would probably hire for sales or where someone needs to follow orders.

If you're discriminating against Liberty grads because you think (wrongly) that they don't possess "critical thinking" skills, you're in the extreme minority.

But please, keep telling us what a smart atheist you are.

They are required to take creationism as a class. If they accept this and continue along their "educational" path, then yes, I take issue with that. I would not hire someone who exercised such poor judgment and exhibited such lack of critical thinking.

Sometimes people have to regurgitate something they don’t believe, just to get through a hurdle. My friend’s son is finding that out right now as he tries to pass NSL Gov for the third time so he can graduate HS.

I disagree with their politics and policies, but they provide the scholarships to turn a number of poor kids with few prospects into adults with degrees. Without those degrees, there’s not much future. Student debt is crushing. Would you really say a degree from Liberty is worse than no degree at all, plus $20k in loans from 5 semesters?

Politics are a matter of opinion. (As an aside, NSL Government is not about regurgitating opinions, it is about understanding and applying facts. So if your friend’s son can’t pass that class, it’s not because he’s not regurgitating opinions. It’s because he is not learning and applying the material .)

Science is not a matter of opinion. The Bible is not a science book.

Student debt is indeed crushing. I would say that no one should have to subscribe to alternative facts in order to become educated, no matter their financial situation, and that a couple of years of community college plus an in-state public would give a student a far better education than the faux version provided at Liberty.

Some people aren’t sending their kids there to be educated in the sense that we all use it. They want them trained for a job (a job in ministry us just great) and to meet an evangelical spouse.

This is an accredited university, even?

Anonymous wrote:Wait, isn't the head of Fairfax County School from Liberty University?

Are you talking about the superintendent? If so, no. He did work in Lynchburg before he moved back to FCPS.

Wait, isn't the head of Fairfax County School from Liberty University?