Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:37     Subject: What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with the way canada, australia, switzerland do immigration?


Absolutely nothing.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:36     Subject: Re:What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love how the lefty drones use liberally the word "White Nationalists agenda" all the while Miller agreed with April Ryan on the need to help the African American community before the immigrants. Why would a White Nationalist say that to an AA reporter?


Exactly. But that's a logical point. Liberals aren't good with logic. It confuses them and they resort to calling names.


So you are ok with the alt-white rhetoric espoused by Mr. Miller?


NP - unless you provide links, this means nothing.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:35     Subject: What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with the way canada, australia, switzerland do immigration?


Our country is very different. Do we want to be Canada, Australia, Switzerland? No. Then why do we want their immigration system?
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:35     Subject: Re:What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love how the lefty drones use liberally the word "White Nationalists agenda" all the while Miller agreed with April Ryan on the need to help the African American community before the immigrants. Why would a White Nationalist say that to an AA reporter?


Exactly. But that's a logical point. Liberals aren't good with logic. It confuses them and they resort to calling names.


So you are ok with the alt-white rhetoric espoused by Mr. Miller?
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:35     Subject: What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I watched the exchange before running into this thread, I don't see how anyone could think that Acosta won the exchange. Very clearly Miller had the upper hand in factual knowledge, historical context, and logic.


Exactly the conclusion I came to, and I watched this exchange twice. Acosta came off as whiny, pouty, and clearly out of his league.


Miller may have convinced you with his presentation, but he was mistaken.


And many of us would say it's you who is mistaken. Fortunately, we're all allowed to draw our own conclusions and don't need to be preached to by those who would label everyone else "white nationalists."


So you wish to embrace alternative facts in coming to your conclusions.

Winning.


You're actually still using "winning"?
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:34     Subject: Re:What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:I love how the lefty drones use liberally the word "White Nationalists agenda" all the while Miller agreed with April Ryan on the need to help the African American community before the immigrants. Why would a White Nationalist say that to an AA reporter?


Exactly. But that's a logical point. Liberals aren't good with logic. It confuses them and they resort to calling names.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:34     Subject: What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My theory is that McMaster and Kelly sent Miller out there to make an ass out of himself, nip this ill-thought-out immigration plan in the bud, and hopefully also get him shit-canned.


The question is ... are they evil geniuses or just evil?


Neither, hopefully they are trying to do the right thing. They knew Miller would slip up and start using his Nazi rhetoric and hoped the outcry would be enough to get him axed.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:33     Subject: What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lindsay Graham opposes this bill. I am sure there are many other Republicans who will also oppose it, because they understand economics over racism.


I would think that at least Rubio would also oppose it as both his parents came here as poor, non-English speaking immigrants. The implication of this bill is that his parents did not deserve the opportunity to emigrate to the US. If I were him, I'd have a hard time looking either of my parents in the eye after voting for such a bill, particularly as everything they sacrificed in their own life enabled him to be successful.


Neither Trump's family nor Miller's family, much less Melania, would make the cut either but alas.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:33     Subject: What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

What is wrong with the way canada, australia, switzerland do immigration?
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:33     Subject: Re:What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you drones are saying, Miller was eloquent and backed up every question with facts. Thrush and Acosta started to interrupt to the point they were being obnoxious and petty. That is the problem with the 4th Estate and they hate being called out for it, regardless if they ignore their cosmopolitan mindset. If someone in the media treated Valerie Jarrett the same way they treated Miller yesterday, there would be outrage on this board. Admit lefties, there are two sets of rules depending on your party affiliation.


THIS. So true.


MILLER: Do you really -- I want to be serious, Jim.

Do you really at CNN not know the difference between green card policy and illegal immigration? You really don't know that?

...

MILLER: Jim, actually, I have to honestly say, I am shocked at your statement that you think that only people from Great Britain and Australia would know English.

This actually -- it reveals your cosmopolitan bias to a shocking degree, that, in your mind -- no, this is an amazing -- this is an amazing moment. This is an amazing moment--

...

MILLER: Jim, that is one of the most outrageous, insulting, ignorant, and foolish things you have ever said. And for you, that's still a really -- the notion that you think that this is a racist bill is so wrong--



I put this here to show that Miller just looks like a jerk in the transcript. I didn't watch the video but I can't imagine he looks any better.

I hate having to have to talk to this sort of person. It is just so annoying.


I wish Acosta had started saying, "reclaiming my time... reclaiming my time... reclaiming my time..." until Miller stopped.

Actually, I watched the video, and every time Miller said, "Jim" in that really demanding tone of voice, I couldn't help but think of Bones from Star Trek yelling at Captain Kirk. Jim.. Jim...Jim...


that would have been hysterical!
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:33     Subject: What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:My theory is that McMaster and Kelly sent Miller out there to make an ass out of himself, nip this ill-thought-out immigration plan in the bud, and hopefully also get him shit-canned.


The question is ... are they evil geniuses or just evil?
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:32     Subject: What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I watched the exchange before running into this thread, I don't see how anyone could think that Acosta won the exchange. Very clearly Miller had the upper hand in factual knowledge, historical context, and logic.


Exactly the conclusion I came to, and I watched this exchange twice. Acosta came off as whiny, pouty, and clearly out of his league.


Miller may have convinced you with his presentation, but he was mistaken.


And many of us would say it's you who is mistaken. Fortunately, we're all allowed to draw our own conclusions and don't need to be preached to by those who would label everyone else "white nationalists."


It is a fact that Miller used the same language as neo Nazis. Whether you think that is a coincidence is up to you.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:32     Subject: Re:What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't care what you drones are saying, Miller was eloquent and backed up every question with facts. Thrush and Acosta started to interrupt to the point they were being obnoxious and petty. That is the problem with the 4th Estate and they hate being called out for it, regardless if they ignore their cosmopolitan mindset. If someone in the media treated Valerie Jarrett the same way they treated Miller yesterday, there would be outrage on this board. Admit lefties, there are two sets of rules depending on your party affiliation.


THIS. So true.


MILLER: Do you really -- I want to be serious, Jim.

Do you really at CNN not know the difference between green card policy and illegal immigration? You really don't know that?

...

MILLER: Jim, actually, I have to honestly say, I am shocked at your statement that you think that only people from Great Britain and Australia would know English.

This actually -- it reveals your cosmopolitan bias to a shocking degree, that, in your mind -- no, this is an amazing -- this is an amazing moment. This is an amazing moment--

...

MILLER: Jim, that is one of the most outrageous, insulting, ignorant, and foolish things you have ever said. And for you, that's still a really -- the notion that you think that this is a racist bill is so wrong--



I put this here to show that Miller just looks like a jerk in the transcript. I didn't watch the video but I can't imagine he looks any better.

I hate having to have to talk to this sort of person. It is just so annoying.


I wish Acosta had started saying, "reclaiming my time... reclaiming my time... reclaiming my time..." until Miller stopped.

Actually, I watched the video, and every time Miller said, "Jim" in that really demanding tone of voice, I couldn't help but think of Bones from Star Trek yelling at Captain Kirk. Jim.. Jim...Jim...
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:32     Subject: What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I watched the exchange before running into this thread, I don't see how anyone could think that Acosta won the exchange. Very clearly Miller had the upper hand in factual knowledge, historical context, and logic.


Exactly the conclusion I came to, and I watched this exchange twice. Acosta came off as whiny, pouty, and clearly out of his league.


Miller may have convinced you with his presentation, but he was mistaken.


And many of us would say it's you who is mistaken. Fortunately, we're all allowed to draw our own conclusions and don't need to be preached to by those who would label everyone else "white nationalists."


So you wish to embrace alternative facts in coming to your conclusions.

Winning.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2017 12:31     Subject: What the hell just happened with Steven Miller???

My theory is that McMaster and Kelly sent Miller out there to make an ass out of himself, nip this ill-thought-out immigration plan in the bud, and hopefully also get him shit-canned.