Anonymous wrote:I'm going to get paranoid for a second...how is that all the members of the band performing (Eagles of Death Metal) are safe and unharmed? It was a bloodbath, yet they spared the entire band? Anyone find that suspicious?

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Anonymous wrote:There is outrage, but more heartbreak and sympathy to all of those suffering. At this point we're not even dealing with people twisting God's words. It is a flagrant rejection of them. The disregard for human life, the joy in chaos and madness, the rejection of peace and stability, these are all against God's teachings.


http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/13236-cair-condemns-paris-terror-attacks.html

Depends on which of God's teachings you emphasize/follow. Plenty of his teachings involve violence.

Sure, but there is NOTHING that even remotely justifies acts like today's. The problem is that we let these violent lunatics coopt our religious texts and seek justification for their psychopathic behavior, but there is no justification, not even in convoluted religious texts.

Your saying there is NOTHING in the Quran that calls for violence/war against non-believers?

The problem with ancient religious text is that they are ancient and only parts of them are relevant. I think we have reached a point where those texts need to be rewritten to fit modern times.

These attacks weren't on non-believers. They were on a diverse population of innocent civilians. Regardless of religion, there is no justification for this sort of act of violence. Where do you find ambiguous language in the Quran that would justify such a thing?

Now your trying to misdirect by claiming ISIS or al-Qaida doesn't consider France to be an non-believing enemy country.

Too many call of violence references to list here, so I'll just give a link. But your welcome to do your own searching as well.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

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Anonymous wrote:There is outrage, but more heartbreak and sympathy to all of those suffering. At this point we're not even dealing with people twisting God's words. It is a flagrant rejection of them. The disregard for human life, the joy in chaos and madness, the rejection of peace and stability, these are all against God's teachings.


http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/13236-cair-condemns-paris-terror-attacks.html

Depends on which of God's teachings you emphasize/follow. Plenty of his teachings involve violence.

Sure, but there is NOTHING that even remotely justifies acts like today's. The problem is that we let these violent lunatics coopt our religious texts and seek justification for their psychopathic behavior, but there is no justification, not even in convoluted religious texts.

Your saying there is NOTHING in the Quran that calls for violence/war against non-believers?

The problem with ancient religious text is that they are ancient and only parts of them are relevant. I think we have reached a point where those texts need to be rewritten to fit modern times.

These attacks weren't on non-believers. They were on a diverse population of innocent civilians. Regardless of religion, there is no justification for this sort of act of violence. Where do you find ambiguous language in the Quran that would justify such a thing?

Anonymous wrote:There's plenty in the Koran, as well as the old testament , that can be interpreted to condone violence. While the Christian church employed violence. There is little in the new testament that condones it. The life of muhammed, the model for Muslims, involved much warfare.

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Anonymous wrote:There is outrage, but more heartbreak and sympathy to all of those suffering. At this point we're not even dealing with people twisting God's words. It is a flagrant rejection of them. The disregard for human life, the joy in chaos and madness, the rejection of peace and stability, these are all against God's teachings.


http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/13236-cair-condemns-paris-terror-attacks.html

Depends on which of God's teachings you emphasize/follow. Plenty of his teachings involve violence.

Sure, but there is NOTHING that even remotely justifies acts like today's. The problem is that we let these violent lunatics coopt our religious texts and seek justification for their psychopathic behavior, but there is no justification, not even in convoluted religious texts.

Your saying there is NOTHING in the Quran that calls for violence/war against non-believers?

The problem with ancient religious text is that they are ancient and only parts of them are relevant. I think we have reached a point where those texts need to be rewritten to fit modern times.

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Anonymous wrote:There is outrage, but more heartbreak and sympathy to all of those suffering. At this point we're not even dealing with people twisting God's words. It is a flagrant rejection of them. The disregard for human life, the joy in chaos and madness, the rejection of peace and stability, these are all against God's teachings.


http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/13236-cair-condemns-paris-terror-attacks.html

Depends on which of God's teachings you emphasize/follow. Plenty of his teachings involve violence.

Sure, but there is NOTHING that even remotely justifies acts like today's. The problem is that we let these violent lunatics coopt our religious texts and seek justification for their psychopathic behavior, but there is no justification, not even in convoluted religious texts.

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they don't cancel their passports and revoke their citizenship when these people leave for Syria or Iraq. Pass a bill that treats it as an act of treason and that results in loss of citizenship and a permanent ban on entering Europe, end of discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:There is outrage, but more heartbreak and sympathy to all of those suffering. At this point we're not even dealing with people twisting God's words. It is a flagrant rejection of them. The disregard for human life, the joy in chaos and madness, the rejection of peace and stability, these are all against God's teachings.


http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/13236-cair-condemns-paris-terror-attacks.html

Depends on which of God's teachings you emphasize/follow. Plenty of his teachings involve violence.

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Anonymous wrote:Lanier said no imminent threat to DC

Um, how would anyone know that? The mark of terrorism is that it's unexpected.

MI5 feared a revenge attack related to or inspired by the killing of Jihadi John.

Did the French kill JJ?

No, we did.

Precisely. So why would France anticipate repercussions in Paris?

To the terrorists, it doesn’t matter if it is France, the UK, the US, or any other nation that is our ally. We are all the same to them.
And, this was not a retaliation for JJ.

Can we say Muslim terrorists?

Anonymous wrote:how do civilians in france even get AK 47s?

Anonymous wrote:ISIS is an evil death-cult. So is Al Caida.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why they don't cancel their passports and revoke their citizenship when these people leave for Syria or Iraq. Pass a bill that treats it as an act of treason and that results in loss of citizenship and a permanent ban on entering Europe, end of discussion.

Friend...you can walk into Europe now. the checkpoints are a 'shambles'. the people doing interviews are volunteers. they can't discern one accent from another. If you cam e back in to set up a life I agree the govt. could make it tricky, but if you came back in to quickly do a dastardly deed I would say your odds are good.