Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 23:22     Subject: Re:Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
Anonymous wrote:What a mean spirited thread. But this being DCUM, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.


Crazy idea: If you don't like the commenters on this site, don't visit this site.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 23:04     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
Hey, hey! Calm down. Marissa Myers lady is having twins. That should count for something?

OK - it was a bummer that the ONS of the French woman with the Kukaburra resulting in a baby was a hoax...but still...

Wow! MM is having two kids at one shot! Yahoo!
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 22:53     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I think it is harder to raise children in an affluent society because there is less of a family community. My DH was raised in a developing country and his mother worked. An older relative of his mother's brother in law offered to stay with her kids, for free, so she could work. She was an older lady and she didn't mind. According to DH, it all went very smoothly. Would your brother in law's older aunt want to stay with your kids for free? It's just not something I can imagine happening in a wealthier society.


People do that at all income levels in the USA if they live near each other. Get off the MY COUNTRY stuff.


I don't know, I haven't seen that.


It will be more common in the future as multi-generational households grow due to the sheer cost of housing skyrocketing and wage suppression occuring everywhere.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 22:48     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it is harder to raise children in an affluent society because there is less of a family community. My DH was raised in a developing country and his mother worked. An older relative of his mother's brother in law offered to stay with her kids, for free, so she could work. She was an older lady and she didn't mind. According to DH, it all went very smoothly. Would your brother in law's older aunt want to stay with your kids for free? It's just not something I can imagine happening in a wealthier society.


People do that at all income levels in the USA if they live near each other. Get off the MY COUNTRY stuff.


I don't know, I haven't seen that.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 22:47     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
Anonymous wrote:I have no problem offing myself peacefully & responsibly when the time comes. And no kids to worry about upsetting! I just hope for a terminal diagnosis so I can go to a state/country where it is legal instead of having to do it under the table.


it's becoming liberalized enough in belgium and switzerland where you don't need terminal diagnosis anymore
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 22:47     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone has answered this but does this mean modern human life disproves darwin/survival of the fittest?

If modern life's "winners" are the ones procreating the least, doesn't that fly against the face of millions of years of genetic coding?


wpuldn't this depend on whose definition of winning we're using?

maybe it's actually our genetic coding that sucks. who knows?
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 22:47     Subject: Re:Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
What a mean spirited thread. But this being DCUM, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 22:41     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This is an interesting discussion. I don't know very many married white affluent women with no kids. And I knew a few white affluent never married women who decided to parent on their own. I know lots and lots and lots of black educated and professional women with no kids, mostly because they aren't partnered. I am black, educated and professional but divorced and when I was married we had to go the IVF/ICSI route for kids because of my husband's health issues. Didn't work. The idea that I might be stereotyped as the single black welfare mom has been hard for me to shake so I haven't opted to go it alone. Plus -- and more importantly -- my parents were married when they had me and my parents' parents were married when they had children and my great grandparents were married when they had children and I think children need two parents.

I think it's sad that you are willing to let perceptions of your family structure rob you of becoming a mom. Ten/twenty years from now, you're going to regret giving a darn what people think.

NP here. I am a black woman who adopted a child on my own in my late 30s. Have I been stereotyped as a welfare mom a few times in the past ten years? Sure, and it sucked (especially because i was certain I earned more money than the people making that judgment about me). But, I have also had ten years of parenting an absolutely wonderful child. If you truly want to parent a child, please don't let other people's opinions keep you from doing it.


Sounds like OP may be on the right track. If you are that concerned with society's perceptions of you and don't think single parents can raise a great kid, then you may not be a great candidate for parenthood.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 22:39     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
I have no problem offing myself peacefully & responsibly when the time comes. And no kids to worry about upsetting! I just hope for a terminal diagnosis so I can go to a state/country where it is legal instead of having to do it under the table.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 22:34     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
I don't think anyone has answered this but does this mean modern human life disproves darwin/survival of the fittest?

If modern life's "winners" are the ones procreating the least, doesn't that fly against the face of millions of years of genetic coding?
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 22:04     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
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Anonymous wrote:Why the fuck did you people buy a home with a mortgage near $4500/month?

That's your first problem.


Because we can.

Well then, you decided this was more of a priority than having kids, which is what PP posters were saying.


I can afford both but I don't want to waste the money on kids.


So instead you'll be wasting it on someone cleaning your ass when you're drooling in your wheelchair?

yeah - seems like a great trade off



You're going to have to pay someone to do the same things, except you wont have nearly as much money.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 22:02     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why the fuck did you people buy a home with a mortgage near $4500/month?

That's your first problem.


Because we can.

Well then, you decided this was more of a priority than having kids, which is what PP posters were saying.


I can afford both but I don't want to waste the money on kids.


So instead you'll be wasting it on someone cleaning your ass when you're drooling in your wheelchair?

yeah - seems like a great trade off

Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 21:59     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
We make $200K and we have 4 children and $800 in student loans and a $2200 month mortgage and they go to private school/nanny share. It is absolutely doable and to say "I cant afford it" is absolutely ridiculous.

If you don't want them, fine. If you want them, but don't want to make any changes to your lifestyle, fine. But be honest with yourself and us if you are posting here.


omg

ridiculous

We make that much. Mortg. is slightly higher, Kids go to public. We have a nanny who does morning care. But we save $12K/year for college. (Kids are in ES and MS.) We pay year for long-term healthcare. We invest and will have pensions.

There's no way we could send our two to private - unless it was some shit hole of a school. vacations? nothing elaborate - But we make sure the kids have a good summer. Extracurriculars cost, too. Each one does two - by choice, not by force.

Something's not right.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 21:53     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why the fuck did you people buy a home with a mortgage near $4500/month?

That's your first problem.


Because we can.

Well then, you decided this was more of a priority than having kids, which is what PP posters were saying.


I can afford both but I don't want to waste the money on kids.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2015 21:36     Subject: Why are white people all around the world not having kids?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why the fuck did you people buy a home with a mortgage near $4500/month?

That's your first problem.


Because we can.


Well then, you decided this was more of a priority than having kids, which is what PP posters were saying.