Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 18:45     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

The cop was out of line and he escalated the situation. Cops are taught to de-escalate situations and he obviously did not follow his training. He does not have the right temperament for this job.

However, I don't think this was a "racial" incident. From the video, I couldn't tell that the driver of the car was black. After officer pulled woman over, she was upset and "pissy." Cop asked her why she was upset - which was his first mistake. She explained that she was upset she was getting a ticket for such a minor infraction when she was only trying to quickly change lanes to get out of his way (as we are all instructed to do - get out of way of emergency vehicles.) Cop didn't like her answer or whatever and then he escalated it by asking her to put out her cigarette. He was clearly pissed that the woman was talking and talking and not complying with his requests. He lost his temper big time. He was wrong for being so bossy. He should have written the ticket or given her a warning and moved on. She was wrong too for being a bit disrespectful even though she was in the right - he had no reason to make her put out cigarette, exit vehicle, or arrest her.

However, there is no proof whatsoever that this woman was murdered in jail.

The arresting officer could not have predicted that she would die in jail. So we can't pin that on him.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 18:32     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

Supposed quote from Sandra Bland's mom after her child's memorial service:

"Once I get this baby in the ground, this means war"
GO GET 'EM MOMMA!!!!!!
Let them know that you will not bury your baby and just go away!!!!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
MAKE RHIS SYSTEM DO RIGHT FOR, BY, AND WITH ALL PEOPLE!!!
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 16:53     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

What happened to this poor woman almost makes me physically sick. She was 28 years old! And, I'm a middle-aged white woman, by the way.

This, for some reason more than all the other shocking incidents that have been in the news recently about AA citizens and the police, really gets to me the most (not that the others weren't terrible; they were).

And yes, I recognize my white privilege more than I ever have before, I think. Of course, a cop would never talk to me that way, and tell me that he would "light me up" with a taser.

Also, I think that part of the reason he may have chosen her to take out his aggression on, is that she said she had just moved there the day before. He chose someone who wouldn't have defenders immediately at hand --what a manipulative coward!
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 16:43     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of the argument that an AA person can act however they want and it is all about how they are black. Give it a rest. If a white person acted up and this happened, no one would be screamimg about the victim being blamed.

What untimatly happened was unfortunate. But as of now, there is no proof of murder. Enough with the tabloid speculation.

Because said [white] "victim" would be home now enjoying whatever it is they celebrate after they scream on a cop for violating their rights.


exactly
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 16:24     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:a pretty white lady is not on the receiving end of 'imma light you up' by any cop no matter what she does.


+1. It's pretty interesting that none of DCUM realizes this reality.


lots of DCUM recognizes this reality and has said so forcefully against the racist idiots. I suggest you read the thread.


I apologize for the generalization. You are correct.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 16:11     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:a pretty white lady is not on the receiving end of 'imma light you up' by any cop no matter what she does.


+1. It's pretty interesting that none of DCUM realizes this reality.


lots of DCUM recognizes this reality and has said so forcefully against the racist idiots. I suggest you read the thread.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 16:08     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

Anonymous wrote:a pretty white lady is not on the receiving end of 'imma light you up' by any cop no matter what she does.


+1. It's pretty interesting that none of DCUM realizes this reality.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:52     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

a pretty white lady is not on the receiving end of 'imma light you up' by any cop no matter what she does.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:49     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of the argument that an AA person can act however they want and it is all about how they are black. Give it a rest. If a white person acted up and this happened, no one would be screamimg about the victim being blamed.

What untimatly happened was unfortunate. But as of now, there is no proof of murder. Enough with the tabloid speculation.

Because said [white] "victim" would be home now enjoying whatever it is they celebrate after they scream on a cop for violating their rights.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:44     Subject: Re:Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

Anonymous wrote:I've seen the obviously doctored video. It's shocking and I really cannot believe people are making excuses.

What I find completely interesting is that people will defend the right to wear semi-automatic weapons to Baja Fresh, which terrifies me. But they will claim that unarmed people are dangerous.

That poor woman was murdered. What is sad is that until you see that billion dollar wrongful death suit, no city or state will ever change. It's cheaper to keep paying chump change settlements (a million -- is peanuts people. This is a human life) than to do the hard work and professionalize law enforcement.


She may have been murdered, but it didn't happen in this video. This video shows wrongful arrest, not murder.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:37     Subject: Re:Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

I've seen the obviously doctored video. It's shocking and I really cannot believe people are making excuses.

What I find completely interesting is that people will defend the right to wear semi-automatic weapons to Baja Fresh, which terrifies me. But they will claim that unarmed people are dangerous.

That poor woman was murdered. What is sad is that until you see that billion dollar wrongful death suit, no city or state will ever change. It's cheaper to keep paying chump change settlements (a million -- is peanuts people. This is a human life) than to do the hard work and professionalize law enforcement.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:35     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of the argument that an AA person can act however they want and it is all about how they are black. Give it a rest. If a white person acted up and this happened, no one would be screamimg about the victim being blamed.

What untimatly happened was unfortunate. But as of now, there is no proof of murder. Enough with the tabloid speculation.


I'm so tired of the argument that an African American woman has to be subservient at all times and never question an abuse of power, without being victim blamed.

this would NEVER have happened to a white woman.

I'm white BTW, but I recognize my privilege.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:33     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

Anonymous wrote:I'm so tired of the argument that an AA person can act however they want and it is all about how they are black. Give it a rest. If a white person acted up and this happened, no one would be screamimg about the victim being blamed.

What untimatly happened was unfortunate. But as of now, there is no proof of murder. Enough with the tabloid speculation.


Fortunately, nobody is making this argument.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:28     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

I'm so tired of the argument that an AA person can act however they want and it is all about how they are black. Give it a rest. If a white person acted up and this happened, no one would be screamimg about the victim being blamed.

What untimatly happened was unfortunate. But as of now, there is no proof of murder. Enough with the tabloid speculation.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2015 15:18     Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: It is abso-frreaking amazing to me that people are putting more onus on the citizen than on the cop. This man issued orders he had NO LEGAL RIGHT TO DO! He has been restricted to desk duty for violations due to this arrest. And we are still hearing from people who somehow believe that a pissy ass attitude trumps violating citizens' legal rights and a dereliction of your duty as an officer. At some point we will need to wake to realize we need to do something about being afraid to die because the cop does not like our attitude when we assert our legal rights. A big mouth is not the problem.


Of course not and I don't think anyone is saying he was in the right, but a respectful attitude could have nipped the whole thing in the bud. She could have left with a ticket and disputed it in front of a judge, where, you know, she would not have been in danger of physical harm.



Or, you know, not. She was not in control; the ego-tripping cop with a gun was. She was in danger of physical harm the moment that cop decided to pull her over. his attitude was toxic and dangerous.