Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 09:20     Subject: Re:The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
I previously taught elementary school. In the teacher's lounge one day a colleague was talking to some of the advanced kids about nursery rhymes, how they came about, how some of the authors are unknown, how they are from different cultures, etc. Many of these advanced kids had no idea of what would be considered typical nursery rhymes that most people should know. We were saying that some parents push their kids past books that are more appropriate for kids of that age group and as a result miss wonderful literature. Of course by fourth grade, the kids feel they are too old for that literature. OP, I'm afraid, will rush her kid past wonderful literature in the "interest" of "challenging" her kid. Go pick up a Junie B. Jones book. Plenty "challenging" if your kindergartener is only a DRA of a 16, but not rich literature. Go to the library and flip through a Junie B. Jones and the flip through some picture books in the children's section. You'll deprive your child of learning much better vocabulary from those picture books by just looking for longer texts.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 08:58     Subject: Re:The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:I wonder if it has occurred to any of you that if you are always demanding that your child be "challenged" when she reads, that she may learn to dislike reading.......

I was always an avid reader--still am. However, I sure don't always pick out books with the highest reading level when I want to relax. Once again, your child learns by reading. The more she reads--at any level--the more she will improve. She may be learning other things from books that appear to be "too easy". She may be picking up speed--which is also a skill. She may just like the pictures, or, she may want just want to read the book her friend reads.

DD constantly checked out the same book from the library when she was in first grade. (I was SICK of it). I would never have dreamed of telling my daughter not to check it out anymore. I think they couldn't check the same book out three times in a row--but, at every opportunity she checked it out again. At the end of the year, when the library was purging books, the librarian gave it to DD with a sweet note that she had noticed how much she liked it. Wonderful librarian.


That is a really sweet story, I love it!
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 08:53     Subject: Re:The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
I wonder if it has occurred to any of you that if you are always demanding that your child be "challenged" when she reads, that she may learn to dislike reading.......

I was always an avid reader--still am. However, I sure don't always pick out books with the highest reading level when I want to relax. Once again, your child learns by reading. The more she reads--at any level--the more she will improve. She may be learning other things from books that appear to be "too easy". She may be picking up speed--which is also a skill. She may just like the pictures, or, she may want just want to read the book her friend reads.

DD constantly checked out the same book from the library when she was in first grade. (I was SICK of it). I would never have dreamed of telling my daughter not to check it out anymore. I think they couldn't check the same book out three times in a row--but, at every opportunity she checked it out again. At the end of the year, when the library was purging books, the librarian gave it to DD with a sweet note that she had noticed how much she liked it. Wonderful librarian.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 07:07     Subject: The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My presumptions about the teacher are correct. She said herself she doesn't listen to kids read because she doesn't have time. So, of course, she is at best only vaguely aware of their kevels.


I'm coming to strongly suspect you are the mother of my child's classmate. TC by any chance? I don't need an answer but if yes, give it a rest, you're making yourself look silly.


Not the OP but there are probably about 10,000 moms in exactly the same situation as the OP. Could be anyone. And she doesn't look silly she is frustrated and rightly so. The problem is when you write on here you get a majority of under-achievers who resent her position and aren't helpful or kind about it.


Then take some responsibility for your child's education. The books my kindergartner brings home seem to be way too easy as well, but I'm giving the teacher the benefit of the doubt that there's a reason (such as the intersection between recognizing words on a page, fluency and comprehension that people have been discussing). At home, I take him to the library and let him pick out what looks interesting to him (and he'll typically pick more challenging books) and we work on reading them together at home. It's not that hard.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 06:44     Subject: The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
A bunch of wackos on this whole thread.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 06:39     Subject: The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My presumptions about the teacher are correct. She said herself she doesn't listen to kids read because she doesn't have time. So, of course, she is at best only vaguely aware of their kevels.


I'm coming to strongly suspect you are the mother of my child's classmate. TC by any chance? I don't need an answer but if yes, give it a rest, you're making yourself look silly.


Not the OP but there are probably about 10,000 moms in exactly the same situation as the OP. Could be anyone. And she doesn't look silly she is frustrated and rightly so. The problem is when you write on here you get a majority of under-achievers who resent her position and aren't helpful or kind about it.


Is that you OP??


No I'm the poster whose DD skipped 1st grade and was called a liar for mentioning it.


I am the PP above who was the very advanced early reader. I suspect this will fall on deaf ears, but think carefully about how invested you are in your child's reading ("underachievers?" You really said that and admit it?). Please, for the sake of your child and coming from somebody who was a lot like your child from your description, just think about it.

Also, I read this whole thread and I didn't see anybody call you a liar, but this hypersensitiveness about any perceived slight to your child's intellectual abilities is something that is very, very familiar to me.


you sound insane.
Anonymous
Post 04/21/2015 00:38     Subject: The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My presumptions about the teacher are correct. She said herself she doesn't listen to kids read because she doesn't have time. So, of course, she is at best only vaguely aware of their kevels.


I'm coming to strongly suspect you are the mother of my child's classmate. TC by any chance? I don't need an answer but if yes, give it a rest, you're making yourself look silly.


Not the OP but there are probably about 10,000 moms in exactly the same situation as the OP. Could be anyone. And she doesn't look silly she is frustrated and rightly so. The problem is when you write on here you get a majority of under-achievers who resent her position and aren't helpful or kind about it.


Is that you OP??


No I'm the poster whose DD skipped 1st grade and was called a liar for mentioning it.


I am the PP above who was the very advanced early reader. I suspect this will fall on deaf ears, but think carefully about how invested you are in your child's reading ("underachievers?" You really said that and admit it?). Please, for the sake of your child and coming from somebody who was a lot like your child from your description, just think about it.

Also, I read this whole thread and I didn't see anybody call you a liar, but this hypersensitiveness about any perceived slight to your child's intellectual abilities is something that is very, very familiar to me.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2015 21:05     Subject: The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:
you have an inability to see why a teacher of kindergarten kids isn't routinely listening to kids that age read.


Yes, I do.

Reading skills are one of the basic goals of K.

If you fail to find time for the basics, then what kind of education are you providing to my child?

You are failing my child because you are not challenging her and not working on the areas where she needs improvement.

That's my train of thoughts.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2015 20:55     Subject: The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:

My DD's teacher does not just rely on tests taken during the year - I'm surprised if yours is doing that. Doesn't your DD bring home books each week of varying levels? Do the levels seem to increase? (obviously except for this one case where she brought home a book too low)? I can tell from the books my DD brings home that the teacher is aware of progress. I don't feel like we are getting a full picture from OP - was this the ONLY book she has brought home all year?


No, she has not been bringing home varying levels of books. She has brought 3 books that are all too easy. Until I told the teacher these books are too easy, she's reading at a different level. Then the teacher sent a book of DRA 16.

To PP, also, no, they are not doing silent reading and comprehension in class.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2015 20:43     Subject: Re:The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:I'm still trying to get my ahead around the questions that the K teacher is going to ask to check for comprehension, inference, etc. on the Harry Potter books.


Huh
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2015 20:30     Subject: Re:The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
I'm still trying to get my ahead around the questions that the K teacher is going to ask to check for comprehension, inference, etc. on the Harry Potter books.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2015 20:27     Subject: The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My presumptions about the teacher are correct. She said herself she doesn't listen to kids read because she doesn't have time. So, of course, she is at best only vaguely aware of their kevels.


I'm coming to strongly suspect you are the mother of my child's classmate. TC by any chance? I don't need an answer but if yes, give it a rest, you're making yourself look silly.


Not the OP but there are probably about 10,000 moms in exactly the same situation as the OP. Could be anyone. And she doesn't look silly she is frustrated and rightly so. The problem is when you write on here you get a majority of under-achievers who resent her position and aren't helpful or kind about it.


Is that you OP??


No I'm the poster whose DD skipped 1st grade and was called a liar for mentioning it.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2015 20:19     Subject: Re:The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:I think OP is mad because the teacher did not make it clear to the volunteer that OP's kid is way ahead of the rest in reading. Or, at least that is what she thinks.


She is mad that:

Kindergarten is about learning to line up, unless you're going to frequently be examining a kindergartener's reading level (which didn't occur to her kid)

Her kindergartener is only formally assessed 2x a year

Too many tests are given to kids

The volunteer parent in the class doesn't get her kid's reading ability

Posters on here don't get that she can assess her kid's reading level better than a trained professional using seasoned techniques and testing methods

She knows her child's comprehension level and doesn't see the need to ask any higher level thinking questions of her kid (to make connections to self, another book, and the world around her, make predictions, state the author's intent, summarize, retell (in order), to determine if she understands what she's read, etc.

Her kid will be bored if not given higher level books though she has refused to answer the direct question about whether the kid has ever said she was actually bored.

To be continued, I'm sure.
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2015 20:11     Subject: The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My presumptions about the teacher are correct. She said herself she doesn't listen to kids read because she doesn't have time. So, of course, she is at best only vaguely aware of their kevels.


I'm coming to strongly suspect you are the mother of my child's classmate. TC by any chance? I don't need an answer but if yes, give it a rest, you're making yourself look silly.


Not the OP but there are probably about 10,000 moms in exactly the same situation as the OP. Could be anyone. And she doesn't look silly she is frustrated and rightly so. The problem is when you write on here you get a majority of under-achievers who resent her position and aren't helpful or kind about it.


Is that you OP??
Anonymous
Post 04/20/2015 20:10     Subject: The teacher is not aware of my DD's reading level
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here. My presumptions about the teacher are correct. She said herself she doesn't listen to kids read because she doesn't have time. So, of course, she is at best only vaguely aware of their kevels.


I'm coming to strongly suspect you are the mother of my child's classmate. TC by any chance? I don't need an answer but if yes, give it a rest, you're making yourself look silly.


Not the OP but there are probably about 10,000 moms in exactly the same situation as the OP. Could be anyone. And she doesn't look silly she is frustrated and rightly so. The problem is when you write on here you get a majority of under-achievers who resent her position and aren't helpful or kind about it.


Wrong. She looks incredibly silly.