Anonymous wrote:Christians believe atheists are more valuable than they think they are.

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All right, fine. Consider me reprimanded.

Thank you

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All right, fine. Consider me reprimanded.

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still don't get it

Atheists value human life - what CAN be done in this lifetime, for example.

But b/c Christians are all for the afterlife and believing that your soul will float to the heavens, the life of atheists - in their eyes - is not valued.

Value people for who they are - while they're alive . . . b/c while your faith may be strong, it isn't necessarily the truth.

Not true. I'm Christian and I have never thought the lives of atheists have no value. And I wouldn't say that atheists across the board value human life and what can be done in this lifetime. Those are not facts.

Those are pretty much facts, which apply to believers as well and any human not suffering from mental illness. The difference is that believers value life after death too and some value it more than this life -- seeing it as eternal good times - and for Christans, it's the reward for accepting Jesus as your savior.

You are still working off of your own stereotypes. The Christian who self-centeredly plods his way through this life only caring about heaven and the self-aware atheist who celebrates his life and those around him to the fullest. Believers and atheists cover the spectrum of self-absorption through valuing life and others. No group corners the market on behavior or attitude.

Sorry, but those are YOUR stereotypes, expressed by you and not by pp -- no Christian self-centeredness or plodding was mentioned, except by you, and no Atheist self-awareness and celebrating was mentioned or implied. It just pointed out general differences and similarities between the broad groups of believers and atheists, and excluded the mentally ill of both groups.

Please reread without adding your own meaning and projecting it on others.

Pp said that atheists across the board value human life and what can be done in this lifetime. I disagreed. Simple. I don't see where your input is helping at all.

You're singling out atheists, when pp said valuing human life applies to atheists and believers. You also mentioned a lot of other implied negative characteristics of both believers and atheists that were not mentioned earlier.

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still don't get it

Atheists value human life - what CAN be done in this lifetime, for example.

But b/c Christians are all for the afterlife and believing that your soul will float to the heavens, the life of atheists - in their eyes - is not valued.

Value people for who they are - while they're alive . . . b/c while your faith may be strong, it isn't necessarily the truth.

Not true. I'm Christian and I have never thought the lives of atheists have no value. And I wouldn't say that atheists across the board value human life and what can be done in this lifetime. Those are not facts.

Those are pretty much facts, which apply to believers as well and any human not suffering from mental illness. The difference is that believers value life after death too and some value it more than this life -- seeing it as eternal good times - and for Christans, it's the reward for accepting Jesus as your savior.

You are still working off of your own stereotypes. The Christian who self-centeredly plods his way through this life only caring about heaven and the self-aware atheist who celebrates his life and those around him to the fullest. Believers and atheists cover the spectrum of self-absorption through valuing life and others. No group corners the market on behavior or attitude.

Sorry, but those are YOUR stereotypes, expressed by you and not by pp -- no Christian self-centeredness or plodding was mentioned, except by you, and no Atheist self-awareness and celebrating was mentioned or implied. It just pointed out general differences and similarities between the broad groups of believers and atheists, and excluded the mentally ill of both groups.

Please reread without adding your own meaning and projecting it on others.

Pp said that atheists across the board value human life and what can be done in this lifetime. I disagreed. Simple. I don't see where your input is helping at all.

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still don't get it

Atheists value human life - what CAN be done in this lifetime, for example.

But b/c Christians are all for the afterlife and believing that your soul will float to the heavens, the life of atheists - in their eyes - is not valued.

Value people for who they are - while they're alive . . . b/c while your faith may be strong, it isn't necessarily the truth.

Not true. I'm Christian and I have never thought the lives of atheists have no value. And I wouldn't say that atheists across the board value human life and what can be done in this lifetime. Those are not facts.

Those are pretty much facts, which apply to believers as well and any human not suffering from mental illness. The difference is that believers value life after death too and some value it more than this life -- seeing it as eternal good times - and for Christans, it's the reward for accepting Jesus as your savior.

You are still working off of your own stereotypes. The Christian who self-centeredly plods his way through this life only caring about heaven and the self-aware atheist who celebrates his life and those around him to the fullest. Believers and atheists cover the spectrum of self-absorption through valuing life and others. No group corners the market on behavior or attitude.

Sorry, but those are YOUR stereotypes, expressed by you and not by pp -- no Christian self-centeredness or plodding was mentioned, except by you, and no Atheist self-awareness and celebrating was mentioned or implied. It just pointed out general differences and similarities between the broad groups of believers and atheists, and excluded the mentally ill of both groups.

Please reread without adding your own meaning and projecting it on others.

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still don't get it

Atheists value human life - what CAN be done in this lifetime, for example.

But b/c Christians are all for the afterlife and believing that your soul will float to the heavens, the life of atheists - in their eyes - is not valued.

Value people for who they are - while they're alive . . . b/c while your faith may be strong, it isn't necessarily the truth.

Not true. I'm Christian and I have never thought the lives of atheists have no value. And I wouldn't say that atheists across the board value human life and what can be done in this lifetime. Those are not facts.

Those are pretty much facts, which apply to believers as well and any human not suffering from mental illness. The difference is that believers value life after death too and some value it more than this life -- seeing it as eternal good times - and for Christans, it's the reward for accepting Jesus as your savior.

You are still working off of your own stereotypes. The Christian who self-centeredly plods his way through this life only caring about heaven and the self-aware atheist who celebrates his life and those around him to the fullest. Believers and atheists cover the spectrum of self-absorption through valuing life and others. No group corners the market on behavior or attitude.

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still don't get it

Atheists value human life - what CAN be done in this lifetime, for example.

But b/c Christians are all for the afterlife and believing that your soul will float to the heavens, the life of atheists - in their eyes - is not valued.

Value people for who they are - while they're alive . . . b/c while your faith may be strong, it isn't necessarily the truth.

Not true. I'm Christian and I have never thought the lives of atheists have no value. And I wouldn't say that atheists across the board value human life and what can be done in this lifetime. Those are not facts.

Those are pretty much facts, which apply to believers as well and any human not suffering from mental illness. The difference is that believers value life after death too and some value it more than this life -- seeing it as eternal good times - and for Christans, it's the reward for accepting Jesus as your savior.

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still don't get it

Atheists value human life - what CAN be done in this lifetime, for example.

But b/c Christians are all for the afterlife and believing that your soul will float to the heavens, the life of atheists - in their eyes - is not valued.

Value people for who they are - while they're alive . . . b/c while your faith may be strong, it isn't necessarily the truth.

Not true. I'm Christian and I have never thought the lives of atheists have no value. And I wouldn't say that atheists across the board value human life and what can be done in this lifetime. Those are not facts.

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still don't get it

Atheists value human life - what CAN be done in this lifetime, for example.

But b/c Christians are all for the afterlife and believing that your soul will float to the heavens, the life of atheists - in their eyes - is not valued.

Value people for who they are - while they're alive . . . b/c while your faith may be strong, it isn't necessarily the truth.

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You can't "engage" in this topic; neither side can.

Souls aren't part of the scientific world unless you're a follower of the paranormal investigations and their EVPs!

Religious and spiritual folks believe in souls. It's their BELIEF.

What's insulting, however, is to hear some religious adherents knock down atheists by claiming they have no soul. translation -"You're evil down to the core and basically not human." It's judgment.

And while atheists judge, too, calling the bible a book of fairy tales, they are at least using some historical evidence to back up their assertions.

bottom line - It's hard to prove what we can't experience through our senses. And until science defines the "sixth sense," these two parties will always be at war.

Atheists don't think that anyone has a soul -- nothing insulting about it.

You don't get it.

OK so an atheist may not believe in a soul. However, someone who does believe and who then blatantly tells the atheist s/he lacks a soul is indeed saying the atheist is heartless/not human/not worthy of love - you name it.

And it may not bother many atheists b/c it's not their belief. Nevertheless, it's still - by Christian standards of "love they neighbor" - a huge slap.

Maybe you don't get it. Maybe you're reading too much into it. Maybe it's like saying atheists are worm food, which atheists would agree with - and also think that all animals become worm food if they are left to decompose.

Atheists don't think that anyone has a soul -- nothing insulting about it.

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You can't "engage" in this topic; neither side can.

Souls aren't part of the scientific world unless you're a follower of the paranormal investigations and their EVPs!

Religious and spiritual folks believe in souls. It's their BELIEF.

What's insulting, however, is to hear some religious adherents knock down atheists by claiming they have no soul. translation -"You're evil down to the core and basically not human." It's judgment.

And while atheists judge, too, calling the bible a book of fairy tales, they are at least using some historical evidence to back up their assertions.

bottom line - It's hard to prove what we can't experience through our senses. And until science defines the "sixth sense," these two parties will always be at war.

Atheists don't think that anyone has a soul -- nothing insulting about it.

You don't get it.

OK so an atheist may not believe in a soul. However, someone who does believe and who then blatantly tells the atheist s/he lacks a soul is indeed saying the atheist is heartless/not human/not worthy of love - you name it.

And it may not bother many atheists b/c it's not their belief. Nevertheless, it's still - by Christian standards of "love they neighbor" - a huge slap.

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You can't "engage" in this topic; neither side can.

Souls aren't part of the scientific world unless you're a follower of the paranormal investigations and their EVPs!

Religious and spiritual folks believe in souls. It's their BELIEF.

What's insulting, however, is to hear some religious adherents knock down atheists by claiming they have no soul. translation -"You're evil down to the core and basically not human." It's judgment.

And while atheists judge, too, calling the bible a book of fairy tales, they are at least using some historical evidence to back up their assertions.

bottom line - It's hard to prove what we can't experience through our senses. And until science defines the "sixth sense," these two parties will always be at war.

Maybe you don't get it. Maybe you're reading too much into it. Maybe it's like saying atheists are worm food, which atheists would agree with - and also think that all animals become worm food if they are left to decompose.

Atheists don't think that anyone has a soul -- nothing insulting about it.

You don't get it.

OK so an atheist may not believe in a soul. However, someone who does believe and who then blatantly tells the atheist s/he lacks a soul is indeed saying the atheist is heartless/not human/not worthy of love - you name it.

And it may not bother many atheists b/c it's not their belief. Nevertheless, it's still - by Christian standards of "love they neighbor" - a huge slap.