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Post 09/27/2014 10:29     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

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Major news sources, including CBS News, reported the same thing -- more accurately he was accused of rape and while no criminal charges we filed he was expelled over the incident.

How's that crow taste? Do you like it roasted, or baked in a pie with vegetables and a cream sauce?!


He was accused of rape, there was no evidence to arrest him and the woman dropped the charges. Sorry, no crow eating here.


No one said he was criminally charged. But there was obviously enough evidence of serious misconduct that Liberty U expelled him, which is what the media outlets reported Sometimes it takes more than an Ivy League degree to sniff out the details of a story. "Lesser" outlets than the NYT clearly have their place.


Liberty U has a prohibition against sex. He was expelled for having sex, not sexual assault.


Was the victim expelled? If not, then I think it turned on forced non-consensual sex that fell short of the evidence needed to get a rape conviction.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:29     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

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Major news sources, including CBS News, reported the same thing -- more accurately he was accused of rape and while no criminal charges we filed he was expelled over the incident.

How's that crow taste? Do you like it roasted, or baked in a pie with vegetables and a cream sauce?!


He was accused of rape, there was no evidence to arrest him and the woman dropped the charges. Sorry, no crow eating here.


No one said he was criminally charged. But there was obviously enough evidence of serious misconduct that Liberty U expelled him, which is what the media outlets reported Sometimes it takes more than an Ivy League degree to sniff out the details of a story. "Lesser" outlets than the NYT clearly have their place.


Liberty U has a prohibition against sex. He was expelled for having sex, not sexual assault.


This is false. There was a rape allegation.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:28     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:I've seen so many racist comments online from black people saying he's being framed, "the white whore deserved it", etc. and it's really disgusting. And yet you don see white peoe rioting in the streets.


Hmm, what outlets are you reading? I have not read these horrible comments anywhere. And are the posters identifying themselves as Black?
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:27     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

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Anonymous wrote:Innocent people don't run from the police during an attempted traffic stop and then disappear. He is guilty of something. If nothing else, resisting arrest.


But if he's black he knows that the scales of justice will never tip in his favor.


Does the name OJ Simpson mean anything to you?


He had the money to fight the machine expert to expert. It didn't help the prosecution to have a racist cop who had been known to plant evidence against other suspects in other crimes. But in the end, the machine got that uppity, rich, Black man anyway. His sentence for the burglary was based on their inability to sentence him on the murders.


"Uppity black man"?

Please. Most of the folks I know who (foolishly) claimed that OJ never could have done it were all white guy football fans, like my boyfriend (now DH).

I do agree with you that OJ got a longer than normal sentence for the Vegas caper, but it's clear he's a bad seed.
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Post 09/27/2014 10:26     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

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Major news sources, including CBS News, reported the same thing -- more accurately he was accused of rape and while no criminal charges we filed he was expelled over the incident.

How's that crow taste? Do you like it roasted, or baked in a pie with vegetables and a cream sauce?!


He was accused of rape, there was no evidence to arrest him and the woman dropped the charges. Sorry, no crow eating here.


No one said he was criminally charged. But there was obviously enough evidence of serious misconduct that Liberty U expelled him, which is what the media outlets reported Sometimes it takes more than an Ivy League degree to sniff out the details of a story. "Lesser" outlets than the NYT clearly have their place.


Liberty U has a prohibition against sex. He was expelled for having sex, not sexual assault.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:24     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

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What's scary is how quick everyone on DCUM is to assume racism.

The suspect appears to have been the last one seen with her. Then she disappeared. That's the primary reason we have as to why he's a suspect.

If he were white, I don't think things would be any different at this point - especially if a white suspect also had a past involving crime and possible sexual assault against women.

Who assumed racism?

Have you been reading this thread. It's been said many times that he is acting erratically not because he did it but because he's scared of being framed because he's black.


Oh, please. An innocent person acts innocent, no matter what color they are. Running off to Texas is not the act of an innocent man.



Unless you have been accused of a crime and facing life in prison, you have know idea how an innocent person acts.


I think by the end of the day Mr. Dreads will be facing more than just life in prison.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:24     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

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Anonymous wrote:The evidence they have against him is circumstantial. There is no camera footage of her getting in the car with him. It doesn't take a lot to meet the probable cause evidence test to be able to charge someone. They charged him with that so that they would be able to arrest him and then have him held without bond. The reckless driving charges would not have been enough to keep him held with no bond.

I hope all the people who are assuming he is guilty have to come face to face with the justice system one day and then suddenly remember that in this country we are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, and not the other way around.


True, but his ACTIONS lead many to believe that he is guilty of something. Why run if you have nothing to hide?


Because the police think you are a (serial) murderer. You guys have already decided he's guilty. He probably thinks he has no chance if he didn't do it.


OMG seriously? He looks guilty bc he didn't come forward initially and he ran. If he hadn't done those things, he'd have much more of a chance in the court of public opinion. Why is that so hard to understand?


He did come forward initially. They released him. Maybe he went to Texas to get away from being followed every second and minute of his day. I would have left as well. Maybe he needed a vacation, but in your rush to judgment you only see ran. If the police really thought he ran, I am sure they could have found an evasion charge to tact on.


You're disturbingly naive. A vacation? Are you for real?
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:23     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still betting he has a history of using the date-rape drugs and/or they found some in his apartment or car. I still don't think he intended to kill HG, but I wouldn't be surprised if he drugged her and killed her "accidentally" (from the drug interaction with the alcohol or other medicines/drugs in her system) while assaulting her.

He doesn't fit the profile of a maniacal killer, but he sure doesn't fit the profile of an innocent man.


Did Ted Bundy?


Did Ted Bundy work in a stable, regular job in a hospital or volunteer coach at a HS? Did he live in the same community his whole life? I am not one who paid any attention to Ted Bundy, but I'm guessing not.


Actually Ted Bundy had a very stable job, girlfriends, lived in the same community his whole life. He was considering a rising up-and-coming Republican star who was destined to run for public office someday.


Ted moved around
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Post 09/27/2014 10:22     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still betting he has a history of using the date-rape drugs and/or they found some in his apartment or car. I still don't think he intended to kill HG, but I wouldn't be surprised if he drugged her and killed her "accidentally" (from the drug interaction with the alcohol or other medicines/drugs in her system) while assaulting her.

He doesn't fit the profile of a maniacal killer, but he sure doesn't fit the profile of an innocent man.


Did Ted Bundy?


Did Ted Bundy work in a stable, regular job in a hospital or volunteer coach at a HS? Did he live in the same community his whole life? I am not one who paid any attention to Ted Bundy, but I'm guessing not.


He did not. Ted moved around a lot. He had victims strewn across many states.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:19     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

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Anonymous wrote:Just curious if those who are reminding us that yes, he is innocent until proven guilty were as vehement on this point regarding the Ruth ann lodato suspect?


Who is that?


I have no idea who that is either but as a general rule, I do not prejudge a case before it goes to trial. After the trial, and if it is a case that interests me, I may form an opinion that is different than what the jury determined when they arrived at a verdict - although I am cognizant that not being on the jury I did not see the witnesses testify and hear all the evidence.

In the case of JM, the reality is that we know virtually nothing other than the fact that he was with HG at some point shortly before she disappeared. Everyone who thinks JM is guilty assume that because he was the last known person with HG, he must have been involved in her disappearance.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:16     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

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What's scary is how quick everyone on DCUM is to assume racism.

The suspect appears to have been the last one seen with her. Then she disappeared. That's the primary reason we have as to why he's a suspect.

If he were white, I don't think things would be any different at this point - especially if a white suspect also had a past involving crime and possible sexual assault against women.

Who assumed racism?

Have you been reading this thread. It's been said many times that he is acting erratically not because he did it but because he's scared of being framed because he's black.


Oh, please. An innocent person acts innocent, no matter what color they are. Running off to Texas is not the act of an innocent man.



Unless you have been accused of a crime and facing life in prison, you have know idea how an innocent person acts.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:12     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

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Anonymous wrote:Did they ever find this guy,
A man seen trailing the teen on surveillance cameras told police he followed the University of Virginia sophomore until she ran into a heavyset black male in his late 20s or early 30s who put his arm around her. That man, who had a close-shaved head and goatee, has since been described as a 'person of interest.'


This guy has dreads


Good observation.

Question is: did he have dreads on the night of the video? I've seen the photos that someone gave the media showing him in dreads. How old is that pic? Was it a Facebook pic that the media grabbed?

I think you might try finding out whether he HAS dreads or how recently he had them. You might be on to a clue.


Do you know how long it takes to grow dreads. LOL


I saw someone with dreads last night and just about recoiled. I kept thinking of the creepy C'ville guy.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:10     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

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Anonymous wrote:Matthew could turn out to be a monster, who has gone from crime to crime in the last 18 years. Starting as a football star, then rapist, then cabbie, then rapist, then rapist murderer, then orderly at a hospital then rapist murderer, then coach and rapist murder. Gotten away with it all these years. And put three girls in the ground. No wonder the police are trying to put him behind bars.


Yeah, the police have made abundantly clear that they believe he is a career rapist who started at age 14 and also murdered two other women...


When did they say this?


Never, my post was dripping with sarcasm but I guess I should have added this too


Only 1 at Liberty... so far. You can roll your eye all you want but this dude is a serial rapist.


I seriously hope you are never on a jury. You've decided the case before even hearing the evidence.


Unfortunately, it is people like PP who sit on juries. They have too much time on their hands to make up their own scenarios.
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Post 09/27/2014 10:07     Subject: Re:The Hannah graham suspect

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Anonymous wrote:Did they ever find this guy,
A man seen trailing the teen on surveillance cameras told police he followed the University of Virginia sophomore until she ran into a heavyset black male in his late 20s or early 30s who put his arm around her. That man, who had a close-shaved head and goatee, has since been described as a 'person of interest.'


This guy has dreads


Good observation.

Question is: did he have dreads on the night of the video? I've seen the photos that someone gave the media showing him in dreads. How old is that pic? Was it a Facebook pic that the media grabbed?

I think you might try finding out whether he HAS dreads or how recently he had them. You might be on to a clue.


Do you know how long it takes to grow dreads. LOL
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2014 10:03     Subject: The Hannah graham suspect

Anonymous wrote:Just curious if those who are reminding us that yes, he is innocent until proven guilty were as vehement on this point regarding the Ruth ann lodato suspect?


Who is that?