Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 16:35     Subject: Re:DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
Ok let's take Wilson out if the picture here.

Why do white families apply and attend SWW but not Banneker?
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 16:22     Subject: Re:DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
Anonymous wrote:"EXCEPT the Black students at Banneker, McKinley, DC Prep, etc...(and these schools are high FARMS to boot!). Not all Black students fit the underperforming narrative. It seems as if all concerned should figure out what these schools are doing right. The false concern/hand-wringing is completely useless."


Banneker and McKinley might be selective, but DC Prep and KIPP are not. While their models might not fit what most middle class families are looking for, there sure are a ton of lower-income families attending criminally under-performing schools who could benefit from a similar model. Why DCPS isn't making more of a concerted effort to implement similar models in their failing schools is a mystery to me.


Agree. For the application only schools like Banneker, McKinley and SWW, the scores don't reveal new information because kids have to have high test scores to get in. it would only reason they would have high scores- not rocket science. What DCPS doesn't look at is what non-test in schools do to raise test scores-especially where the population is majority low income. Test scores usually tie into income level so when they don't- DCPS should look at why not and act on it. DCPS is a complete mystery to me as well
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 15:09     Subject: Re:DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?


Shepherd it's a fair amount of love. However with McKinley and Banneker it seems like posters on DCUM use the SATs scores to prove the schools aren't as good as they would seem. Plus it seems to me it's one thing to send your kid to a majority minority school for free preschool or lower grades but it's not ok to do the same in high school even though it's a high performing rigorous school.


Shepherd is damn far away in the wrong direction for most families. But McKinley and Banneker have a huge disconnect with the folks that frequent this board. It's going to take a massive outreach on both sides to breakthrough that.


I call BS about Shepherd's location. Many EOTP families cross town to go OOB to Hearst worse performing charters charters. The few that do apply to Shepherd do to get into Deal. Also PP, the 47% AA is not the same as 98% at Banneker. Huge difference. You can keep telling yourself you're not racist by sending your kids to Wilson (with worse scores) that's half black if it makes you feel better. Let's have a serious discussion like 11:36 tried.


Your argumentation style (Racist! Racist!) isn't conducive to any type of civilized discussion.

You fail to understand that many of the people attending Wilson are IB for Wilson. Banneker is quite a bit further, and given that white students at Wilson perform wonderfully (per test scores), the tradeoff of worse commute and fewer neighborhood friends for no improvement in scores is damning. yeah, it could be that. But, on the other hand, it's easier to call someone a racist instead.

Go back under your bridge.


Wilson is 46% OOB. There are many white people outside Wilson boundaries. Even if you're making a point, what about the folks that can't get into Wilson? White people are going and applying to SWS but not Banneker, why? Banneker is very convenient to most families by car and metro.


Oh good, then you are OK with me sending my kid to the school up the street from our house. Phew!
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 14:39     Subject: Re:DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores


Totally agree. I hate to see Latin scores drop because I believe it is a good school overall, but BASIS took the top students (and potential tops) from Latins' pool. BASIS will be the top MS/HS in the area in about 2 years.


Didn't Basis outscore Latin last (their first) year also? And it is a school based on accelerated learning, wouldn't it be BAD if their scores WEREN'T higher than most schools?


I have not been able to find the subgroup DCCAS results. I imagine that they are not out yet. However, keep in mind that BASIS has a high FARMs rate and still did that well.


BASIS is a Title 1 school.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 14:37     Subject: Re:DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
Anonymous wrote:"EXCEPT the Black students at Banneker, McKinley, DC Prep, etc...(and these schools are high FARMS to boot!). Not all Black students fit the underperforming narrative. It seems as if all concerned should figure out what these schools are doing right. The false concern/hand-wringing is completely useless."


Banneker and McKinley might be selective, but DC Prep and KIPP are not. While their models might not fit what most middle class families are looking for, there sure are a ton of lower-income families attending criminally under-performing schools who could benefit from a similar model. Why DCPS isn't making more of a concerted effort to implement similar models in their failing schools is a mystery to me.


Banneker and Mcinkley are abouth 60% FARMS while Wilson is 30%. Pretty sure the farms rate on DC Prep and KIPP empire is closer to 90%
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 14:28     Subject: Re:DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores


Totally agree. I hate to see Latin scores drop because I believe it is a good school overall, but BASIS took the top students (and potential tops) from Latins' pool. BASIS will be the top MS/HS in the area in about 2 years.


Didn't Basis outscore Latin last (their first) year also? And it is a school based on accelerated learning, wouldn't it be BAD if their scores WEREN'T higher than most schools?


I have not been able to find the subgroup DCCAS results. I imagine that they are not out yet. However, keep in mind that BASIS has a high FARMs rate and still did that well.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 14:20     Subject: DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
Anonymous wrote:It is amazing to me how many people say that Bancroft is just behind Oyster and is up and coming. I'd much rather have my kid at Reed based on these scores--Bancroft went down two categories (to Focus) and is now only 45% proficient/advanced overall. Reed is 60% proficient/advanced overall, and it's a rising school with less diversity and more low-income students. Powell is also rising, with 56% proficient/advanced overall. None of these schools comes anywhere near Oyster, which is 84% proficient and a reward school.

The demographics of Bancroft are the closest to Oyster's (racial and socioeconomic diversity, though Bancroft still has much higher % of low income kids).

The middle class familes at Bancroft (especially those who stay past K) know test scores aren't the be-all, end-all, otherwise we wouldn't still be there. At the same time, the scores this year are very disappointing, especially the huge drop in reading. I wonder if it's partly because about half our 3rd-5th teaching staff seems to turn over each year. I look forward to hearing our principal's take on what went wrong.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 14:17     Subject: DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
http://greatergreatereducation.org/m/post/23803/test-scores-are-not-improving-for-at-risk-student-groups/

Discuss amongst yourselves.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 13:51     Subject: Re:DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
DC Prep and KIPP lose a lot of kids along the way from what I understand."

Not sure about KIPP, but DC Prep doesn't.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 13:48     Subject: DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
DC Prep and KIPP lose a lot of kids along the way from what I understand.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 13:45     Subject: Re:DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
"EXCEPT the Black students at Banneker, McKinley, DC Prep, etc...(and these schools are high FARMS to boot!). Not all Black students fit the underperforming narrative. It seems as if all concerned should figure out what these schools are doing right. The false concern/hand-wringing is completely useless."


Banneker and McKinley might be selective, but DC Prep and KIPP are not. While their models might not fit what most middle class families are looking for, there sure are a ton of lower-income families attending criminally under-performing schools who could benefit from a similar model. Why DCPS isn't making more of a concerted effort to implement similar models in their failing schools is a mystery to me.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 13:43     Subject: DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
But, but the claim here is always that NWNW is anti-OOB because they don't want their precious little snowflakes hob-nobbing it with Tyrone and Latisha. The story is that OOB is code for black. Surely the previous bigot believes that.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 13:15     Subject: Re:DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?


Shepherd it's a fair amount of love. However with McKinley and Banneker it seems like posters on DCUM use the SATs scores to prove the schools aren't as good as they would seem. Plus it seems to me it's one thing to send your kid to a majority minority school for free preschool or lower grades but it's not ok to do the same in high school even though it's a high performing rigorous school.


Shepherd is damn far away in the wrong direction for most families. But McKinley and Banneker have a huge disconnect with the folks that frequent this board. It's going to take a massive outreach on both sides to breakthrough that.


I call BS about Shepherd's location. Many EOTP families cross town to go OOB to Hearst worse performing charters charters. The few that do apply to Shepherd do to get into Deal. Also PP, the 47% AA is not the same as 98% at Banneker. Huge difference. You can keep telling yourself you're not racist by sending your kids to Wilson (with worse scores) that's half black if it makes you feel better. Let's have a serious discussion like 11:36 tried.


Your argumentation style (Racist! Racist!) isn't conducive to any type of civilized discussion.

You fail to understand that many of the people attending Wilson are IB for Wilson. Banneker is quite a bit further, and given that white students at Wilson perform wonderfully (per test scores), the tradeoff of worse commute and fewer neighborhood friends for no improvement in scores is damning. yeah, it could be that. But, on the other hand, it's easier to call someone a racist instead.

Go back under your bridge.


Wilson is 46% OOB. There are many white people outside Wilson boundaries. Even if you're making a point, what about the folks that can't get into Wilson? White people are going and applying to SWS but not Banneker, why? Banneker is very convenient to most families by car and metro.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 12:43     Subject: DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Reading scores from black children went from 38.8 proficient in 2008 to 38.6 proficient in 2014.

Even with erase-to-the top that's shameful.

Kaya should be fired and Rhee indicted.


The scores for black students are an abomination.


EXCEPT the Black students at Banneker, McKinley, DC Prep, etc...(and these schools are high FARMS to boot!). Not all Black students fit the underperforming narrative. It seems as if all concerned should figure out what these schools are doing right. The false concern/hand-wringing is completely useless.


In the case of Benneker and McKinley -- they are selective, application-only schools -- what they re doing right is choosing already proven good students to attend their schools.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2014 12:38     Subject: Re:DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am not a parent and either of these schools but:

YAY for Ross, that is AMAZING!
Yay for Eaton!
Impressed with Basis and think it has a direct relation of th Latin's significant drop in scores
Stoddert is earning the S in the now ERJKLMMS!! Very impressed with Stoddert, larger OOB, minority and FARM than many schools WOTP and still scores keep rising.
Keep it up YY (shake the haters off)!
Why don't Shepherd, Mckinley High, and Banneker get love on DCUM? Can't help to think it's a race thing. Especially since Shepherd is only 33% FARM (79% black), aren't those the "safe" ones you want your kid to go to school with?


Shepherd it's a fair amount of love. However with McKinley and Banneker it seems like posters on DCUM use the SATs scores to prove the schools aren't as good as they would seem. Plus it seems to me it's one thing to send your kid to a majority minority school for free preschool or lower grades but it's not ok to do the same in high school even though it's a high performing rigorous school.


Shepherd is damn far away in the wrong direction for most families. But McKinley and Banneker have a huge disconnect with the folks that frequent this board. It's going to take a massive outreach on both sides to breakthrough that.


I call BS about Shepherd's location. Many EOTP families cross town to go OOB to Hearst worse performing charters charters. The few that do apply to Shepherd do to get into Deal. Also PP, the 47% AA is not the same as 98% at Banneker. Huge difference. You can keep telling yourself you're not racist by sending your kids to Wilson (with worse scores) that's half black if it makes you feel better. Let's have a serious discussion like 11:36 tried.


Your argumentation style (Racist! Racist!) isn't conducive to any type of civilized discussion.

You fail to understand that many of the people attending Wilson are IB for Wilson. Banneker is quite a bit further, and given that white students at Wilson perform wonderfully (per test scores), the tradeoff of worse commute and fewer neighborhood friends for no improvement in scores is damning. yeah, it could be that. But, on the other hand, it's easier to call someone a racist instead.

Go back under your bridge.