Anonymous wrote:For those in your circle 35+, maybe including you too OP, what types of guys are you excluding? Would you date a divorced guy? What if he had a kid/kids? Do you date only w/ in your 'race' or,do you cross ethnic barriers?

What types of activiites do you for fun - when you're not at bars or clubs on the weekends? I can tell you if you are crossing off your list single dads, divorced guys, 35-45, you're really missing out on a wide pool of pretty eligible, mature and successful guys in this town.

NP here. This is my type - where do I find these guys? Especially when I don't have kids (and no real desire to physically have my own) so there's no reason I'd be on a sports field while DD/DS is playing XYZ sport.

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Anonymous wrote:Only about 11% of Americans have graduate degrees. The most popular is in education, which skews towards women.

Only in DC are all these useless non technical, non law and non medical graduate degrees employable

This is soooo true...and it is what cracks me up about these "requirements". I'm in tech, have a B.S. and well out earn a bunch of graduate degree friends...PhD in education, MPA (that's a local fav from the George Mason Degree Mill), so so many ticket-punchers around here.

yeah but a B.S. in tech won't become treasury secretary like a M.A. from SAIS.

these bitches don't look for just any old grad degree holders.

Yes, but of the tens of thousands of MA graduates from SAIS over a given 30 year period, a couple 100 of them will achieve something significant like treasury secretary, ambassador, etc. Dream on. However, there are far, far more opportunities heading tech firms in Silly Valley, Boston, the DC Federal contracting market, major consulting firms, web companies, software companies, hardware companies, etc for someone with a background in tech. The odds of accomplishing a lot with that MA from SAIS are much lower than the odds of achieving something significant with a BS in tech.

Go ahead and imagine you are in the 0.01% who achieve a lot on your MA from SAIS.

I'm pp who made the comment to b.s. physics dude - i agree with him for the most part even though i am a SAIS grad.

I'm just trying to explain what some career-climber women in DC will view things as.

And lets be honest, i have plenty of friends and family in the major tech centers of this country - SV and seattle - and women there complain about the guys working in tech and it is brutal for men dating out there.

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Anonymous wrote:Only about 11% of Americans have graduate degrees. The most popular is in education, which skews towards women.

Only in DC are all these useless non technical, non law and non medical graduate degrees employable

This is soooo true...and it is what cracks me up about these "requirements". I'm in tech, have a B.S. and well out earn a bunch of graduate degree friends...PhD in education, MPA (that's a local fav from the George Mason Degree Mill), so so many ticket-punchers around here.

yeah but a B.S. in tech won't become treasury secretary like a M.A. from SAIS.

these bitches don't look for just any old grad degree holders.

Yes, but of the tens of thousands of MA graduates from SAIS over a given 30 year period, a couple 100 of them will achieve something significant like treasury secretary, ambassador, etc. Dream on. However, there are far, far more opportunities heading tech firms in Silly Valley, Boston, the DC Federal contracting market, major consulting firms, web companies, software companies, hardware companies, etc for someone with a background in tech. The odds of accomplishing a lot with that MA from SAIS are much lower than the odds of achieving something significant with a BS in tech.

Go ahead and imagine you are in the 0.01% who achieve a lot on your MA from SAIS.

I always tell women I have a masters from SAIS. It's better than the 'Vette gets 'em wet line from True Lies.

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Anonymous wrote:Only about 11% of Americans have graduate degrees. The most popular is in education, which skews towards women.

Only in DC are all these useless non technical, non law and non medical graduate degrees employable

This is soooo true...and it is what cracks me up about these "requirements". I'm in tech, have a B.S. and well out earn a bunch of graduate degree friends...PhD in education, MPA (that's a local fav from the George Mason Degree Mill), so so many ticket-punchers around here.

yeah but a B.S. in tech won't become treasury secretary like a M.A. from SAIS.

these bitches don't look for just any old grad degree holders.

Mmm...mine is in Physics, hard sciences. I'm not super-impressed by "international studies".

I think becoming the Treasury Secretary is entirely dependent upon a different kind of political and finance industry credentialing - it doesn't come from a "school". Access to those circles does generally require a top tier (not necessarily HYP or Ivy) grad. school.

Anyway, I wonder of OP will tell us what her super-hard-core discipline is...

I agree, but what i'm saying is even someting 'soft' like IR but from a school like SAIS, KSG, Fletcher, Gtown opens up doors that dc women want their mates to walk through much more so than a B.S. in a hard basic science.

Oddly enough the only b.s. physics people I know that make good money without having to get an applied masters or phd went into quant finance. Isn't it difficult getting jobs with just a basic/pure science undergrad?

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e) point is, accept your inherent declining value in the marketplace and increase the things you can improve - kindness, physical condition, warmth, sexual availability, thoughtfulness, selflessness

Wow, here is someone in touch with reality. Good for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Only about 11% of Americans have graduate degrees. The most popular is in education, which skews towards women.

Only in DC are all these useless non technical, non law and non medical graduate degrees employable

This is soooo true...and it is what cracks me up about these "requirements". I'm in tech, have a B.S. and well out earn a bunch of graduate degree friends...PhD in education, MPA (that's a local fav from the George Mason Degree Mill), so so many ticket-punchers around here.

yeah but a B.S. in tech won't become treasury secretary like a M.A. from SAIS.

these bitches don't look for just any old grad degree holders.

Mmm...mine is in Physics, hard sciences. I'm not super-impressed by "international studies".

I think becoming the Treasury Secretary is entirely dependent upon a different kind of political and finance industry credentialing - it doesn't come from a "school". Access to those circles does generally require a top tier (not necessarily HYP or Ivy) grad. school.

Anyway, I wonder of OP will tell us what her super-hard-core discipline is...

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Anonymous wrote:Only about 11% of Americans have graduate degrees. The most popular is in education, which skews towards women.

Only in DC are all these useless non technical, non law and non medical graduate degrees employable

This is soooo true...and it is what cracks me up about these "requirements". I'm in tech, have a B.S. and well out earn a bunch of graduate degree friends...PhD in education, MPA (that's a local fav from the George Mason Degree Mill), so so many ticket-punchers around here.

yeah but a B.S. in tech won't become treasury secretary like a M.A. from SAIS.

these bitches don't look for just any old grad degree holders.

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Anonymous wrote:Only about 11% of Americans have graduate degrees. The most popular is in education, which skews towards women.

Only in DC are all these useless non technical, non law and non medical graduate degrees employable

This is soooo true...and it is what cracks me up about these "requirements". I'm in tech, have a B.S. and well out earn a bunch of graduate degree friends...PhD in education, MPA (that's a local fav from the George Mason Degree Mill), so so many ticket-punchers around here.

i go out on a lot of dates, manage several regulars and meet new women all the time.

here is what i can tell the OP:

a) being kind, warm and agreeable goes much farther than any degree, job, or income.

b) stop asking yourself why men won't come to you, and figure out how to go to them

c) this is a seller's market for men who are together, masculine and mature. the amount of women seeking that far outnumbers the availability.

d) mid 30's-40's is old in this dating market for your target demo. assuming it is mid 30's to mid 40's men who have it together. sure a 45 year old might be interested in a 35, but a 39 year man of value is going to have 25 year old's ready and willing to date him.

e) point is, accept your inherent declining value in the marketplace and increase the things you can improve - kindness, physical condition, warmth, sexual availability, thoughtfulness, selflessness

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Anonymous wrote:Single guy in late 20's here - was out in seattle and portland - you dc girls crush your competition out there.

even just browse on okc - the 6-8 on the attractiveness scale, hyper-educated, driven, ambitious group of women are a dime a dozen around here - there is a real paucity of your type out in the pacnw.

As a sociological tool, okc is super interesting - just browsing different cities on it, you start to get an idea of the distribution of the type of women in a particular area.

So, the answer, ladies, is move somewhere where the competition is not so keen.

PP you quoted - the question of course is would DC women date pacnw guys. The answer is - i'm not sure. There are lots of highly educated (not just tech but mba types as well) men but they are quite different than the acela-alpha types.

But once you reach 30, I think it is safe to say the dating market is telling you something.

Don't feel entitled to anything you didn't sweat and struggle for

Anonymous wrote:Graduate degrees are very difficult to get. Sometime you have to show up and talk to the professors.

You, I like.

Anonymous wrote:Single guy in late 20's here - was out in seattle and portland - you dc girls crush your competition out there.

even just browse on okc - the 6-8 on the attractiveness scale, hyper-educated, driven, ambitious group of women are a dime a dozen around here - there is a real paucity of your type out in the pacnw.

As a sociological tool, okc is super interesting - just browsing different cities on it, you start to get an idea of the distribution of the type of women in a particular area.

To a lot of people, the Type A personality is a turn-off!

Anonymous wrote:Single guy in late 20's here - was out in seattle and portland - you dc girls crush your competition out there.

even just browse on okc - the 6-8 on the attractiveness scale, hyper-educated, driven, ambitious group of women are a dime a dozen around here - there is a real paucity of your type out in the pacnw.

As a sociological tool, okc is super interesting - just browsing different cities on it, you start to get an idea of the distribution of the type of women in a particular area.

So, the answer, ladies, is move somewhere where the competition is not so keen.