Anonymous
06/10/2014 13:11
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP: Eaton is one feeder school that, for example, is close to 80% OOB in their upper grade-that is how!
33% of students at Deal are OOB-you get rid of OOB feeder rights, you get rid of overcrowding, it is that simple-the numbers are far too vast to lie. OOB spaces should ONLY be made available when there is room!
If Easton is reassigned to Hardy -- and especially if Hardy's high school feed remains up in the air -- it will be more like 99% OOB by the upper grades.
Sounds like a reasonable statement to me. We are all thinking about high school, well before middle school, so if the middle school is acceptable, but the high school option is unclear or it sucks, then that middle school aint looking so flash either... although 99% OOB may be an exaggeration....
So, which is it: reasonable or an exaggeration?
Explain to me why the composition of Eaton will differ DRAMATICALLY from the composition of Key or Mann (unequivocally better schools)? Or, are you expecting them to go 99% OOB too? Why? What would have changed? (Recall, traditionally Key and Mann students don't attend Hardy (or Wilson) as it is.)
Moreover, Hardy is not being removed from Wilson. It was a silly place-holder note (worthy of more exploration, to be sure), but nothing more. You will see on Thursday that the note is long gone. Book it.
Wait, do you have info the next set of recommendations is coming out on Thursday?
i had heard that on this point when pressed in public meetings, Abigail Smith was sounding very evasive, even by Bowser standards.
Anonymous
06/10/2014 11:11
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP: Eaton is one feeder school that, for example, is close to 80% OOB in their upper grade-that is how!
33% of students at Deal are OOB-you get rid of OOB feeder rights, you get rid of overcrowding, it is that simple-the numbers are far too vast to lie. OOB spaces should ONLY be made available when there is room!
If Easton is reassigned to Hardy -- and especially if Hardy's high school feed remains up in the air -- it will be more like 99% OOB by the upper grades.
Sounds like a reasonable statement to me. We are all thinking about high school, well before middle school, so if the middle school is acceptable, but the high school option is unclear or it sucks, then that middle school aint looking so flash either... although 99% OOB may be an exaggeration....
So, which is it: reasonable or an exaggeration?
Explain to me why the composition of Eaton will differ DRAMATICALLY from the composition of Key or Mann (unequivocally better schools)? Or, are you expecting them to go 99% OOB too? Why? What would have changed? (Recall, traditionally Key and Mann students don't attend Hardy (or Wilson) as it is.)
Moreover, Hardy is not being removed from Wilson. It was a silly place-holder note (worthy of more exploration, to be sure), but nothing more. You will see on Thursday that the note is long gone. Book it.
Wait, do you have info the next set of recommendations is coming out on Thursday?
That's what I was told by a "woman" who is very involved with this process (in an official capacity). That could change, of course, and I'll look silly, but this is what I've been told. (We've spoken about this process several times. Nothing nefarious, and no special treatment.)
Anonymous
06/10/2014 11:07
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP: Eaton is one feeder school that, for example, is close to 80% OOB in their upper grade-that is how!
33% of students at Deal are OOB-you get rid of OOB feeder rights, you get rid of overcrowding, it is that simple-the numbers are far too vast to lie. OOB spaces should ONLY be made available when there is room!
If Easton is reassigned to Hardy -- and especially if Hardy's high school feed remains up in the air -- it will be more like 99% OOB by the upper grades.
Sounds like a reasonable statement to me. We are all thinking about high school, well before middle school, so if the middle school is acceptable, but the high school option is unclear or it sucks, then that middle school aint looking so flash either... although 99% OOB may be an exaggeration....
So, which is it: reasonable or an exaggeration?
Explain to me why the composition of Eaton will differ DRAMATICALLY from the composition of Key or Mann (unequivocally better schools)? Or, are you expecting them to go 99% OOB too? Why? What would have changed? (Recall, traditionally Key and Mann students don't attend Hardy (or Wilson) as it is.)
Moreover, Hardy is not being removed from Wilson. It was a silly place-holder note (worthy of more exploration, to be sure), but nothing more. You will see on Thursday that the note is long gone. Book it.
Wait, do you have info the next set of recommendations is coming out on Thursday?
Anonymous
06/10/2014 10:35
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP: Eaton is one feeder school that, for example, is close to 80% OOB in their upper grade-that is how!
33% of students at Deal are OOB-you get rid of OOB feeder rights, you get rid of overcrowding, it is that simple-the numbers are far too vast to lie. OOB spaces should ONLY be made available when there is room!
If Easton is reassigned to Hardy -- and especially if Hardy's high school feed remains up in the air -- it will be more like 99% OOB by the upper grades.
Sounds like a reasonable statement to me. We are all thinking about high school, well before middle school, so if the middle school is acceptable, but the high school option is unclear or it sucks, then that middle school aint looking so flash either... although 99% OOB may be an exaggeration....
So, which is it: reasonable or an exaggeration?
Explain to me why the composition of Eaton will differ DRAMATICALLY from the composition of Key or Mann (unequivocally better schools)? Or, are you expecting them to go 99% OOB too? Why? What would have changed? (Recall, traditionally Key and Mann students don't attend Hardy (or Wilson) as it is.)
Moreover, Hardy is not being removed from Wilson. It was a silly place-holder note (worthy of more exploration, to be sure), but nothing more. You will see on Thursday that the note is long gone. Book it.
Reasonable that if the high school is up in the air then the middle school states to look less attractive and then the numbers and the % OOB in the upper grades of elementary drop off. But to 99% out of bounds seems a bit of an exaggeration.
In any case, if Hardy is still feeding to Wilson all is well for those who want to send their kids Wilson.
Anonymous
06/10/2014 10:27
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP: Eaton is one feeder school that, for example, is close to 80% OOB in their upper grade-that is how!
33% of students at Deal are OOB-you get rid of OOB feeder rights, you get rid of overcrowding, it is that simple-the numbers are far too vast to lie. OOB spaces should ONLY be made available when there is room!
If Easton is reassigned to Hardy -- and especially if Hardy's high school feed remains up in the air -- it will be more like 99% OOB by the upper grades.
Sounds like a reasonable statement to me. We are all thinking about high school, well before middle school, so if the middle school is acceptable, but the high school option is unclear or it sucks, then that middle school aint looking so flash either... although 99% OOB may be an exaggeration....
So, which is it: reasonable or an exaggeration?
Explain to me why the composition of Eaton will differ DRAMATICALLY from the composition of Key or Mann (unequivocally better schools)? Or, are you expecting them to go 99% OOB too? Why? What would have changed? (Recall, traditionally Key and Mann students don't attend Hardy (or Wilson) as it is.)
Moreover, Hardy is not being removed from Wilson. It was a silly place-holder note (worthy of more exploration, to be sure), but nothing more. You will see on Thursday that the note is long gone. Book it.
Anonymous
06/10/2014 10:06
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP: Eaton is one feeder school that, for example, is close to 80% OOB in their upper grade-that is how!
33% of students at Deal are OOB-you get rid of OOB feeder rights, you get rid of overcrowding, it is that simple-the numbers are far too vast to lie. OOB spaces should ONLY be made available when there is room!
If Easton is reassigned to Hardy -- and especially if Hardy's high school feed remains up in the air -- it will be more like 99% OOB by the upper grades.
Sounds like a reasonable statement to me. We are all thinking about high school, well before middle school, so if the middle school is acceptable, but the high school option is unclear or it sucks, then that middle school aint looking so flash either... although 99% OOB may be an exaggeration....
Anonymous
06/05/2014 16:54
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:PP: Eaton is one feeder school that, for example, is close to 80% OOB in their upper grade-that is how!
33% of students at Deal are OOB-you get rid of OOB feeder rights, you get rid of overcrowding, it is that simple-the numbers are far too vast to lie. OOB spaces should ONLY be made available when there is room!
If Easton is reassigned to Hardy -- and especially if Hardy's high school feed remains up in the air -- it will be more like 99% OOB by the upper grades.
Stop being hyperbolic. Eaton is a fine school, but no one considers it better than current Hardy feeders Key and Mann (and, honestly, they shouldn't view it better than Stoddert). The dynamic you describe doesn't apply at these schools, so please explain to me what's different about Eaton. (The Eaton parents on here really do themselves a disservice with this chicken little talk. I get your frustration. I get that you're upset. I understand. But stop spreading falsehoods and playing the bogeyman. Honestly, I am your natural ally. And if you're losing me, you must have already lost everyone else.)
Anonymous
06/05/2014 16:39
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:PP: Eaton is one feeder school that, for example, is close to 80% OOB in their upper grade-that is how!
33% of students at Deal are OOB-you get rid of OOB feeder rights, you get rid of overcrowding, it is that simple-the numbers are far too vast to lie. OOB spaces should ONLY be made available when there is room!
If Easton is reassigned to Hardy -- and especially if Hardy's high school feed remains up in the air -- it will be more like 99% OOB by the upper grades.
Anonymous
06/05/2014 16:34
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:SW and EOTP aren't the crunch. There are 1248 kids at Deal and 371 at Hardy. Assuming equal grade sizes, that alone puts 540 potential kids into Wilson next year. Wilson's capacity is only 1431. Their current enrollment is 1696. They can't handle 2160.
Some Hardy and Deal kids will go to private schools, charters, SWW/Banneker/Ellington, or move out of the district. But some kids who could have gone to Hardy or Deal but picked charters will go to Wilson, and some new families with high school-aged kids will move to upper NW. There's not enough capacity at Wilson and taking out SW and Adams doesn't come close to solving it.
If Francis-Stevens became another HS fed by Adams and Hardy with SW having a right to attend, some very cool specialized programs (maybe foreign service, with the state department and the universities so close by, though this may require a change to plans for Roosevelt? Take museum studies out of Ellington and make a museum-focused HS? public health?) I could see it working, and some folks who think Wilson is too big for their kids might actually prefer it. But where would the PK-8 kids go?
I can see this High School location working also, except the Hardy people destined for Wilson may freak out. But maybe put into the choice set, if you are into sports then the school with the big soccer fields are for your kids ie Wilson, if sports is important but you prefer a more academics and language then go to Francis Stephens. Or maybe you don't care either way, you just want a short commute...
Not sure about the K-8 kids, aren't most of them out of bounds anyway?
Umm, how about my IB comprehensive HS be comprehensive, instead of following some fad? I don't want a Musuem Studies or Public Health or Arts focused school. I want a regular, comprehensive school. If parents want a specialty school, then they should skip their by-right IB school and attend a specialty school. Full stop.
Amen sister. Specialized high schools are a stalking horse for eliminating neighborhood schools.