Anonymous
06/26/2013 10:32
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Not while being robbed, when she went home and told her husband about it. Do you think she used the "n" word with a gun to her head?
Anonymous
06/26/2013 10:28
Subject: Re:Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Paula Deen did not use the word in the context of the restaurant, or of employment, but during being robbed? That is racist? Sounds more like the thought police to me. Also hatred of a success white woman.
Anonymous
06/26/2013 10:26
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous wrote:13:50 Are we following the same story?
1. Paula Deen's brother is accused of creating a hostile workplace. Yet the woman who sued filed no complaints with the EEOC. She decides to sue ... for $1.2 million. Further, she's white, so she really doesn't have standing on claims of racism. That aspect of the lawsuit may not stand.
2. It has been widely reported that the plaintiff worked for Paula's brother, not Paula, at his restaurant, not hers, and it has been widely speculated that the plaintiff included Paula and her restaurant in the lawsuit for their deep pockets and also because they're famous, which could add pressure them into settling.
3. I beg to differ. I'd love to hear her explain her motives, and why she didn't leave her job if things were as bad as she claims -- five years is a long time to put up with what she claims was happening -- and/or why she didn't take other measures to try and correct the workplace environment.
4. You missed my point. I am not describing my tastes or preferences. I was making the point that such sensibilities are not exclusive to Paula Deen -- and further they are not illegal. When I went to the Homestead in the early 1990s, to cover a business conference, I was stunned by the plantation sensibilities.
FYI: Not all plantations were owned by slaveowners. So your equal signs are inaccurate.
It is a witch hunt. Paula Deen has little or nothing to do with the running of the restaurant, and has never had more than a 15 minute conversation with the plaintiff, which took place in 2007. And there is no real record of that conversation. Wow, just wow.
Anonymous
06/26/2013 10:06
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Paula on the Today Show
http://www.today.com/food/paula-deen-i-would-not-have-fired-me-6C10454147#
More white privilege: "Those kids say it to each other. I don't understand why I can't say it, too." (If you don't know the difference between an in-group employee's use of a term in an ironic way, and an employer's use of the term in a serious way, you are too dumb to live.)
"I don't know what is offensive and what isn't." (This is grade school level stuff. Again, too dumb to live.)
"Evil people are out to get me!" (Nope. You're the one with the problem. You might want to reconsider your BS.)
Yuk, NBC should be sanctioned for indulging this woman with almost 13 minutes of airtime.
And Rev. Jackson came out to support me, blah, blah, blah...
Anonymous
06/26/2013 09:50
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous wrote:Why are black standup comics and rap singers allowed to use the word while Paula Deen cannot? The word's not illegal. I cannot believe the Food Network caved. I'm white, from the north, have never used the word myself. But I think this is outrageous, that her contract was not renewed.
Who says that they are "allowed?" There are a lot of educated AA's who openly criticize use of the word and the overall personnas of a lot of the "entertainers and some of us try not to allow our kids to listen to that type of stuff. Truth be told, many of us think of those rappers as uneducated and ignorant and perptuating every negative sterotype about AA men. Two rappers recently lost major endorsements because of stupid things they said about Emmet Till and date rape. You know what? Most AA's were not upset that they lost those endorsements because waht they said was THAT dumb.
So...please don't try to defend Paula Deen by saying that it is no beig deal because the "rappers' use it. They are getting hit in the wallet just like she is....and I support it in both cases.
Her contract was not renewed because no company wants the negative PR that comes with it that MAY cost them viewers. The Food Network can spin it anyway it wants, it is about the money and PR, not principle.
Anonymous
06/26/2013 09:48
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
9:19 She used the "n" word over 20 years ago in the privacy of her home after she was held up, gun pointed to her head, by an African American ... the use of the word had nothing to do with the workplace.
White privilege, not to know what's offensive and what isn't?
I feel sorry for her. She's not too sharp, true. The plantation wedding idea was offensive but how did that play into the workplace? I think this former employee's lawsuit is an abuse of the legal system. Talk about victim! (The things I used to hear when I worked in the restaurant business. I heard chefs and bartenders in D.C. make racist comments about things African Americans ordered. I didn't sue! I knew I wasn't going to change the way anyone thought or behaved.) You do know her lawyer threatened to ruin Paula Deen's brand, costing her millions, if they didn't settle. Extortionary words.
White privilege, not to know what's offensive and what isn't?
I feel sorry for her. She's not too sharp, true. The plantation wedding idea was offensive but how did that play into the workplace? I think this former employee's lawsuit is an abuse of the legal system. Talk about victim! (The things I used to hear when I worked in the restaurant business. I heard chefs and bartenders in D.C. make racist comments about things African Americans ordered. I didn't sue! I knew I wasn't going to change the way anyone thought or behaved.) You do know her lawyer threatened to ruin Paula Deen's brand, costing her millions, if they didn't settle. Extortionary words.
Anonymous
06/26/2013 09:37
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Paula on the Today Show
http://www.today.com/food/paula-deen-i-would-not-have-fired-me-6C10454147#
More white privilege: "Those kids say it to each other. I don't understand why I can't say it, too." (If you don't know the difference between an in-group employee's use of a term in an ironic way, and an employer's use of the term in a serious way, you are too dumb to live.)
"I don't know what is offensive and what isn't." (This is grade school level stuff. Again, too dumb to live.)
"Evil people are out to get me!" (Nope. You're the one with the problem. You might want to reconsider your BS.)
I agree with you. I'm not sure that Paula Deen is intentionally malicious, but her monumental stupidity is reckless and hurtful - which maybe makes it only a minute fractional iota of a teeny tiny decimal point better. But still awful. I refuse to believe that anyone in this day and age does not know better.
It seems like Paula is still playing the "but why do they hate me? victim card. I have no sympathy for her.
Anonymous
06/26/2013 09:19
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous wrote:Paula on the Today Show
http://www.today.com/food/paula-deen-i-would-not-have-fired-me-6C10454147#
More white privilege: "Those kids say it to each other. I don't understand why I can't say it, too." (If you don't know the difference between an in-group employee's use of a term in an ironic way, and an employer's use of the term in a serious way, you are too dumb to live.)
"I don't know what is offensive and what isn't." (This is grade school level stuff. Again, too dumb to live.)
"Evil people are out to get me!" (Nope. You're the one with the problem. You might want to reconsider your BS.)
Anonymous
06/26/2013 09:14
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:True I am not the judge. Is the Food Network?
The Food Network is the judge of which celebrities project the brand image they want and which don't. They decided that Paula Dean does not project the brand image they want.
Exactly. I do not get the outrage directed at the Food Network. Paula Deen used racist terms and admitted to it. That's hardly the image that the Food Network - or any decent business - wants to project to the public. Why is that a mystery to so many of you?!
And is Paula Deen entitled to say the N word? Sure. But there are ramifications for using racial slurs (i.e., you may lose friends, business associates, employment, etc). She made her bed, now she's lying in it. Sucks, but them the breaks.
That sound is the sound of outraged white privilege. "What do you mean I can't be racist without any consequences at all? What do you mean I shouldn't be racist in private? It's not fair!"
Anonymous
06/26/2013 09:12
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:That's why UVA is a subpar university. It reeks of plantation. I am serious.
I didn't go to UVA and have zero ties to the school. But UVA is certainly NOT a sub par university - it's one of the the best public universities in the nation and rivals many top privates, including Ivies in every major ranking.
Don't know that it reeks of plantation, either, but you're entitled to your opinion on that one.
The whole place is steeped in slavery. It is designed like a plantation. It only ranks high in u s news, all other world rankings have it way lower and average based on its lack of alumni that innovate/create and having zero Nobel alumni.
Anonymous
06/26/2013 08:47
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:True I am not the judge. Is the Food Network?
The Food Network is the judge of which celebrities project the brand image they want and which don't. They decided that Paula Dean does not project the brand image they want.
Exactly. I do not get the outrage directed at the Food Network. Paula Deen used racist terms and admitted to it. That's hardly the image that the Food Network - or any decent business - wants to project to the public. Why is that a mystery to so many of you?!
And is Paula Deen entitled to say the N word? Sure. But there are ramifications for using racial slurs (i.e., you may lose friends, business associates, employment, etc). She made her bed, now she's lying in it. Sucks, but them the breaks.
Anonymous
06/26/2013 08:43
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous wrote:That's why UVA is a subpar university. It reeks of plantation. I am serious.
I didn't go to UVA and have zero ties to the school. But UVA is certainly NOT a sub par university - it's one of the the best public universities in the nation and rivals many top privates, including Ivies in every major ranking.
Don't know that it reeks of plantation, either, but you're entitled to your opinion on that one.
Anonymous
06/26/2013 08:40
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous wrote:Shit. Do I have to stop saying plantation shutters?
If you are rich and own a lot of businesses, yes.
Anonymous
06/26/2013 08:38
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
Anonymous
06/26/2013 08:07
Subject: Paul Deen Use of the the "N" word
That's why UVA is a subpar university. It reeks of plantation. I am serious.