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Anonymous wrote: There were a couple of other kids like them -- in a neighborhood where every house costs over $1M, what would you expect? When the oldest reached 4th we moved them to private. so did the other parents like ours. .

So now wealth equates to brilliance? Seriously? Some of the most brilliant minds in history who made the most groundbreaking discoveries came from modest means.

You pretty much discredited yourself with that nasty/elitist statement.

Please stop with the absolutist arguments. Of course there are plenty of smart kids or gifted kids from families with modest means. I bet that lots of the upper SES folks in the DC area--which includes the wealthiest counties in the US and the counties with the highest concentrations of college graduates/PhDs--are exactly those kids, the ones from all over the US who were very smart and did well for themselves and congregated in an area where there are lots of well-paying jobs for really smart people.

I had working class parents, my husband had working class parents, we were both gifted children, we went on to good colleges, got grad degrees, got good jobs in DC, and are now upper SES--the wealth flowed from the intelligence, not the other way around. Now we have our own kids and, not surprisingly, they have been identified as gifted. The kids aren't gifted because we have money--we have money and we have gifted kids because we are very smart. It's correlation, not causation. Its not "elitist" to recognize the correlation and assume that a wealthy neighborhood in the DC suburbs is populated with very smart, high-acheiving adults who are likely to have very smart kids. And it certainly doesn't deny that gifted children originate from all kinds of families and circumstances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-income_counties_in_the_United_States
http://www.prweb.com/releases/top-10/most-educated-counties/prweb8347043.htm

Anonymous wrote:We are a family of high IQs. The teachers in MCPS made a big effort to help my DCs have a great experience. They just pulled out materials from 3rd and 4th grade in 1st and 2nd. They tested 99% (the highest you could go) across the board in standardized tests. Admin would say: are these real? when they saw the test scores. There were a couple of other kids like them -- in a neighborhood where every house costs over $1M, what would you expect? When the oldest reached 4th we moved them to private. so did the other parents like ours. Some kids are very smart academically. making them continue to repeat 1st and 2nd grade materials is asking a lot of a 7-8 year old. So if your child is gifted, acts gifted, tests gifted, yes it is a form of special issue and needs to be addressed. The best thing we ever did for our kids was private.

So now wealth equates to brilliance? Seriously? Some of the most brilliant minds in history who made the most groundbreaking discoveries came from modest means.

You pretty much discredited yourself with that nasty/elitist statement.

Of course a child will be bored in school. The question is: Is he bored all day?

Also, is the child really bored or just not doing what he wants to do. Our kids are accustomed to instant gratification.

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Anonymous wrote:We are a family of high IQs. The teachers in MCPS made a big effort to help my DCs have a great experience. They just pulled out materials from 3rd and 4th grade in 1st and 2nd. They tested 99% (the highest you could go) across the board in standardized tests. Admin would say: are these real? when they saw the test scores. There were a couple of other kids like them -- in a neighborhood where every house costs over $1M, what would you expect? When the oldest reached 4th we moved them to private. so did the other parents like ours. Some kids are very smart academically. making them continue to repeat 1st and 2nd grade materials is asking a lot of a 7-8 year old. So if your child is gifted, acts gifted, tests gifted, yes it is a form of special issue and needs to be addressed. The best thing we ever did for our kids was private.

I would agree with this poster. If your child is so off the charts - perhaps private may offer more for them. It would be nice if public could make a curriculum for each individual child - but there are limitations to public education. I think in general they are trying to do the best they can with limited resources.

Not in DC. The public school system there doesn't even try. And if you are like us and some other families who have a high-IQ kid, but don't have the money for private, unless someone knows of privates that would be willing to provide scholarships to carry most of the financial burden, you are out of luck.

Anonymous wrote:We are a family of high IQs. The teachers in MCPS made a big effort to help my DCs have a great experience. They just pulled out materials from 3rd and 4th grade in 1st and 2nd. They tested 99% (the highest you could go) across the board in standardized tests. Admin would say: are these real? when they saw the test scores. There were a couple of other kids like them -- in a neighborhood where every house costs over $1M, what would you expect? When the oldest reached 4th we moved them to private. so did the other parents like ours. Some kids are very smart academically. making them continue to repeat 1st and 2nd grade materials is asking a lot of a 7-8 year old. So if your child is gifted, acts gifted, tests gifted, yes it is a form of special issue and needs to be addressed. The best thing we ever did for our kids was private.

I would agree with this poster. If your child is so off the charts - perhaps private may offer more for them. It would be nice if public could make a curriculum for each individual child - but there are limitations to public education. I think in general they are trying to do the best they can with limited resources.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone believes that being bored=being gifted. Kids at all levels of aptitude can get bored in school.

As far as gifted kids. Yes, they do get bored. I am sorry. To those of you who say your bright child does not get bored--just be thankful. They are obviously not so far out bright that they need more accommodation.

My DD will start kindergarten next fall and is already fluently reading. I can tell her expectations of kindergarten are too high. She thinks everyone will be reading big chapter books like her and will be ready to learn math. She is excited to go to school to learn and do work. We are trying our best to play up the play parts of kindergarten.

We did this. LOL! We taught them at home

For my gifted DCs, K was only 1.5 hours when mine went, so I did not care. They learned more in the aftercare! The K teacher told me that my DCs were very gifted. So were a couple of others in the class. It was 3rd grade where the problem started. I agree with other poster who talked about the excessive and rediculous amount of parent homework in preK and K. I did it but later I wondered: why did they spend 4 years teaching the alphabet? And the numbers?

We are a family of high IQs. The teachers in MCPS made a big effort to help my DCs have a great experience. They just pulled out materials from 3rd and 4th grade in 1st and 2nd. They tested 99% (the highest you could go) across the board in standardized tests. Admin would say: are these real? when they saw the test scores. There were a couple of other kids like them -- in a neighborhood where every house costs over $1M, what would you expect? When the oldest reached 4th we moved them to private. so did the other parents like ours. Some kids are very smart academically. making them continue to repeat 1st and 2nd grade materials is asking a lot of a 7-8 year old. So if your child is gifted, acts gifted, tests gifted, yes it is a form of special issue and needs to be addressed. The best thing we ever did for our kids was private.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, if everyone on this board has such a gifted kid, they don't really stand out, do they. They are one of a group. Nah...just kidding...all these kids are not profoundly gifted. They are bright and have groups. They may still be bored but that is their personality. Flame away -

Signed - a parent of two AAP kids

Even in a gifted setting people notice my kid. It's not always positive, but he's definitely a stand-out.

That means he stands out for being quirky, not gifted.

Higher levels of giftedness is going to come across as quirky.

Intensity, sensitivity and overexcitability are characterstics of highly gifted people. Think "artistic temperament" or "genius temperament."

http://www.sengifted.org/archives/articles/overexcitability-and-the-gifted

155 on WISC poster - if you're talking WISC-IV, then that is truly an unusually high score and you do have a profoundly gifted child. (Was it the WISC-IV? At what age?)

But you still have just ONE child in your sample size, and you cannot make generalizations about ALL "truly gifted" kids based on your sample. If that was a reasonable position to take, then I could state with confidence that all truly gifted kids will love baseball, hate soccer, be obsessed with the Titanic, hate arithmetic but love spatial-related mathematics, and would struggle in traditional classrooms but thrive with other highly gifted kids. Because based on my sample size of one, that simply must be true.

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Anonymous wrote:i know better to complain about 'boredom' to parents. no one cares and you sound like ridiculous. but the truth is in the younger grades (thru 3rd) DC have been bored. Their way of explaining the repetition of the work they are assigned. I see it more as being unchallenged or just that they are fast learners. Not that they come knowing all the material... they just don't need 4 or 5 lessons to grasp it ie. maybe 1 or 2 is enough.

also, if you don't have a child with an IQ above 145 then maybe you can roll your eyes. But it sounds reasonable to me. You don't really know what it likes to have a 145+ IQ occupied.... just like I wouldn't begin to tell a SN family that I get what they go thru. Not saying they are the same.... just saying that unless you live it... you don't get it.

No, I get it. My kid has an IQ of 155...AND IS NOT BORED. Do you get that? I don't believe truly gifted kids get bored in school...they can look at things uniquely. Study things from different perspectives, etc. There is nothing worse than a parent who says, "I get that people don't get the troubles I've known because my kid is so off the charts. THank your stars you don't have our troubles."

Get over yourself.

155 on what test? And is it your belief that if your kid never gets a rash, non other child could ever get a rash? Just wondering how far your sample of one stretches.

I am going to guess the NNAT. This is the poster that keeps repeating "truly gifted children never get bored BECAUSE MY CHILD DOES NOT GET BORED." I would not be surprised if it were the NNAT.

Here is the deal lady. Your kid(s) are surely bright, but scoring well on one test does not mean much more than that. Your kid got a 155 on NNAT. That is great. But, there are other kids who require more accommodation than your child. They are truly reading 5 years above grade level, understanding abstract math concepts, and need to be consuming information. Gifted is as gifted does. You must realize that there are smarter kids than your DC.

Unless you are saying that your child is the gold standard for profoundly gifted children please shut up about your sample of one. You, and I suspect you are the OP, are annoying me. You are the one that needs to get over yourself.

What a dumbo..,why would a 155 on an iq up test possible be the nnat????

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Anonymous wrote:i know better to complain about 'boredom' to parents. no one cares and you sound like ridiculous. but the truth is in the younger grades (thru 3rd) DC have been bored. Their way of explaining the repetition of the work they are assigned. I see it more as being unchallenged or just that they are fast learners. Not that they come knowing all the material... they just don't need 4 or 5 lessons to grasp it ie. maybe 1 or 2 is enough.

also, if you don't have a child with an IQ above 145 then maybe you can roll your eyes. But it sounds reasonable to me. You don't really know what it likes to have a 145+ IQ occupied.... just like I wouldn't begin to tell a SN family that I get what they go thru. Not saying they are the same.... just saying that unless you live it... you don't get it.

No, I get it. My kid has an IQ of 155...AND IS NOT BORED. Do you get that? I don't believe truly gifted kids get bored in school...they can look at things uniquely. Study things from different perspectives, etc. There is nothing worse than a parent who says, "I get that people don't get the troubles I've known because my kid is so off the charts. THank your stars you don't have our troubles."

Get over yourself.

155 on what test? And is it your belief that if your kid never gets a rash, non other child could ever get a rash? Just wondering how far your sample of one stretches.

Wisc

IF your kid isn't bored, just because they aren't bored does not necessarily mean that time has been spent on anything academic. Kid might not be bored but is spending all day reading sci fi snuck in, instead of paying attention in class, or filling notebook after notebook with doodles, cartoons, and other stuff for example. Wasted opportunity.

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Anonymous wrote:i know better to complain about 'boredom' to parents. no one cares and you sound like ridiculous. but the truth is in the younger grades (thru 3rd) DC have been bored. Their way of explaining the repetition of the work they are assigned. I see it more as being unchallenged or just that they are fast learners. Not that they come knowing all the material... they just don't need 4 or 5 lessons to grasp it ie. maybe 1 or 2 is enough.

also, if you don't have a child with an IQ above 145 then maybe you can roll your eyes. But it sounds reasonable to me. You don't really know what it likes to have a 145+ IQ occupied.... just like I wouldn't begin to tell a SN family that I get what they go thru. Not saying they are the same.... just saying that unless you live it... you don't get it.

No, I get it. My kid has an IQ of 155...AND IS NOT BORED. Do you get that? I don't believe truly gifted kids get bored in school...they can look at things uniquely. Study things from different perspectives, etc. There is nothing worse than a parent who says, "I get that people don't get the troubles I've known because my kid is so off the charts. THank your stars you don't have our troubles."

Get over yourself.

155 on what test? And is it your belief that if your kid never gets a rash, non other child could ever get a rash? Just wondering how far your sample of one stretches.

I am going to guess the NNAT. This is the poster that keeps repeating "truly gifted children never get bored BECAUSE MY CHILD DOES NOT GET BORED." I would not be surprised if it were the NNAT.

Here is the deal lady. Your kid(s) are surely bright, but scoring well on one test does not mean much more than that. Your kid got a 155 on NNAT. That is great. But, there are other kids who require more accommodation than your child. They are truly reading 5 years above grade level, understanding abstract math concepts, and need to be consuming information. Gifted is as gifted does. You must realize that there are smarter kids than your DC.

Unless you are saying that your child is the gold standard for profoundly gifted children please shut up about your sample of one. You, and I suspect you are the OP, are annoying me. You are the one that needs to get over yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:i know better to complain about 'boredom' to parents. no one cares and you sound like ridiculous. but the truth is in the younger grades (thru 3rd) DC have been bored. Their way of explaining the repetition of the work they are assigned. I see it more as being unchallenged or just that they are fast learners. Not that they come knowing all the material... they just don't need 4 or 5 lessons to grasp it ie. maybe 1 or 2 is enough.

also, if you don't have a child with an IQ above 145 then maybe you can roll your eyes. But it sounds reasonable to me. You don't really know what it likes to have a 145+ IQ occupied.... just like I wouldn't begin to tell a SN family that I get what they go thru. Not saying they are the same.... just saying that unless you live it... you don't get it.

No, I get it. My kid has an IQ of 155...AND IS NOT BORED. Do you get that? I don't believe truly gifted kids get bored in school...they can look at things uniquely. Study things from different perspectives, etc. There is nothing worse than a parent who says, "I get that people don't get the troubles I've known because my kid is so off the charts. THank your stars you don't have our troubles."

Get over yourself.

155 on what test? And is it your belief that if your kid never gets a rash, non other child could ever get a rash? Just wondering how far your sample of one stretches.