Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:52
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If you were at a playground with your child, and your child accidentally bugged another kid, and didn't say sorry, and so the other kid said, "I am going to kick your bike!" which kid do you think was more in the wrong? I say the one who threatened the kick.
And I say it's 100X worse in the Metro situation b/c we are talking abotu adults, not children. Who kicks? Outside of like, karate class? Strangest thing I ever ever heard of.
Why is this being turned into the victimhood Olympics? They were both wrong. When you physically bother someone and rudely dismiss their concerns, then it's not unreasonable to think they will threaten to physically remove the object that is bothering them.
Both are wrong. But so many people are focusing on the young lady's threat of bad behavior instead of the man's actual bad behavior. If everyone behaves themselves and has manners, situations like these will be politely resolved. That is what kids need to learn.
This! She threatened to remove the object that was continuously assaulting her away
Good insight. What I don't understand is, why didn't she simply bite the tire hard and puncture it? THAT would teach the biker how to properly behave with ladies in the future.
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:51
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
After this thread, I am staying away from all black people on the Metro. Not even looking at them. Don't want to appear to be doing anything to them, against them, be THINKING about doing anything to them, against them, nothing. Unless I am serving them tea on a silver platter, they will likely think that anything less is a personal affront.
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:48
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
so the biker gets a pass for his continuous assault on the Black woman with his dirty disgusting bike wheel and when said Black woman stands up for herself and threatens to assault the bike (which is assaulting her) she is overreacting. Being assaulted by a dirty bike wheel is not a perceived slight -it's an actual assault. I also believe that the biker thought his right to take his bike on the metro trumped this black woman's right to not have her personal space invaded and that is what she responded to when she threatened to take action against his bike. Could she have tried to deescalate the situation - sure but if I felt like someone thought an inanimate object took precedence over my own human dignity, being nice and polite would not have been my first reaction. Would I have threatened to kick the bike - probably not but I would have politely pointed out that he was assaulting me with his bike. Being passive and meek would have made me feel worse since I was the one harmed so I understand why this lady threatened physical action.
As an aside, just because the Metro is crowded doesn't mean that all of sudden, this lady's right to be treated with dignity and respect by fellow metro riders goes out the window. When you do something wrong, you apologize first, not blame the victim you assaulted for overreacting. However, I am not surprised that a lot of white people thought that she overreacted. They have no experience with their dignity as a human being questioned on a daily basis. Finally, as to OP using this as example - I think the point was to show that the white people in this example are happy go lucky, without a care in the world, where as this black woman was tightly wound and/or maybe has a chip on her shoulder. As an African-American woman, I try to be very pleasant, but it's hard to keep smiling when you encounter so many prejudices, slights, and stereotypes.
As for the poster with the playground scenario, for it to be accurate the first child would have to hit the second child with some object over and over again and not simply "bugged" them. But by your reasoning, are you saying that the Child #1 who actually assaulted the Child #2 is not at fault as compared to Child #2 who threatened to assault Child #1 after being continually assaulted ?
As an aside, just because the Metro is crowded doesn't mean that all of sudden, this lady's right to be treated with dignity and respect by fellow metro riders goes out the window. When you do something wrong, you apologize first, not blame the victim you assaulted for overreacting. However, I am not surprised that a lot of white people thought that she overreacted. They have no experience with their dignity as a human being questioned on a daily basis. Finally, as to OP using this as example - I think the point was to show that the white people in this example are happy go lucky, without a care in the world, where as this black woman was tightly wound and/or maybe has a chip on her shoulder. As an African-American woman, I try to be very pleasant, but it's hard to keep smiling when you encounter so many prejudices, slights, and stereotypes.
As for the poster with the playground scenario, for it to be accurate the first child would have to hit the second child with some object over and over again and not simply "bugged" them. But by your reasoning, are you saying that the Child #1 who actually assaulted the Child #2 is not at fault as compared to Child #2 who threatened to assault Child #1 after being continually assaulted ?
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:48
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
OP, please save us. Is this exchange helping answer your existential question
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:48
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If you were at a playground with your child, and your child accidentally bugged another kid, and didn't say sorry, and so the other kid said, "I am going to kick your bike!" which kid do you think was more in the wrong? I say the one who threatened the kick.
And I say it's 100X worse in the Metro situation b/c we are talking abotu adults, not children. Who kicks? Outside of like, karate class? Strangest thing I ever ever heard of.
Why is this being turned into the victimhood Olympics? They were both wrong. When you physically bother someone and rudely dismiss their concerns, then it's not unreasonable to think they will threaten to physically remove the object that is bothering them.
Both are wrong. But so many people are focusing on the young lady's threat of bad behavior instead of the man's actual bad behavior. If everyone behaves themselves and has manners, situations like these will be politely resolved. That is what kids need to learn.
This! She threatened to remove the object that was continuously assaulting her away
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:46
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Let me tell you something which I used to tell my daughter, when she was about 2. She has internalized it now and at age 4.5 I never have to tell her anymore, but apparently there are some adults who never got the message!
"IT IS NEVER OKAY TO KICK."
Here is another way I used to phrase it with her:
"WE DO NOT KICK."
Not the PP you're responding to, but what's up with the obsessive focus on the young woman's response to the bicycle owner's rude comment and behavior? Yes, it's wrong to threaten to kick someone's bike. It's also wrong to bother someone without an apology.
If you were at a playground with your child, and your child accidentally bugged another kid, and didn't say sorry, and so the other kid said, "I am going to kick your bike!" which kid do you think was more in the wrong? I say the one who threatened the kick.
And I say it's 100X worse in the Metro situation b/c we are talking abotu adults, not children. Who kicks? Outside of like, karate class? Strangest thing I ever ever heard of.
I think the point is that since the man did not have any regard for the lady and her personal space she was not going to have regard for his bike.
And, again, this is very, very childish. We tell our kids that it doesn't matter "who started it." They should be the ones to "end it."
And how many adults on here are saying it's ok, b/c the kicking lady didn't "start it"????
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:45
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
Anonymous wrote:
If you were at a playground with your child, and your child accidentally bugged another kid, and didn't say sorry, and so the other kid said, "I am going to kick your bike!" which kid do you think was more in the wrong? I say the one who threatened the kick.
And I say it's 100X worse in the Metro situation b/c we are talking abotu adults, not children. Who kicks? Outside of like, karate class? Strangest thing I ever ever heard of.
Why is this being turned into the victimhood Olympics? They were both wrong. When you physically bother someone and rudely dismiss their concerns, then it's not unreasonable to think they will threaten to physically remove the object that is bothering them.
Both are wrong. But so many people are focusing on the young lady's threat of bad behavior instead of the man's actual bad behavior. If everyone behaves themselves and has manners, situations like these will be politely resolved. That is what kids need to learn.
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:44
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Let me tell you something which I used to tell my daughter, when she was about 2. She has internalized it now and at age 4.5 I never have to tell her anymore, but apparently there are some adults who never got the message!
"IT IS NEVER OKAY TO KICK."
Here is another way I used to phrase it with her:
"WE DO NOT KICK."
Not the PP you're responding to, but what's up with the obsessive focus on the young woman's response to the bicycle owner's rude comment and behavior? Yes, it's wrong to threaten to kick someone's bike. It's also wrong to bother someone without an apology.
If you were at a playground with your child, and your child accidentally bugged another kid, and didn't say sorry, and so the other kid said, "I am going to kick your bike!" which kid do you think was more in the wrong? I say the one who threatened the kick.
And I say it's 100X worse in the Metro situation b/c we are talking abotu adults, not children. Who kicks? Outside of like, karate class? Strangest thing I ever ever heard of.
I think the point is that since the man did not have any regard for the lady and her personal space she was not going to have regard for his bike.
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:42
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
NO ONE HERE IS TELLING YOU THAT, OTHER THAN OP. WHO I DON'T THINK IS WHITE.Anonymous wrote:White people, please address-
1. low self-esteem SEEMS LIKE THE PRECISE OPPOSITE, SIMPLY BY READING THIS THREAD.
2. high rates of eating disorders DO YOU INCLUDE OBESITY RATES?
3. high rates of depression ACCESS TO PSYCHOLOGISTS, AND A CULTURE THAT DOESN'T HIDE (AS MANY) PROBLEMS?
4. high rates of antidepressant use SEE ABOVE, PLUS MEDICAL COMMUNITY BIASED TOWARDS QUICK FIXES
5. high suicide rates (one of the leading causes of death for whites) AS SEEN IN CHART, THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY DO MEN OF EVERY RACES HAVE HIGHER SUICIDE RATES THAN WOMEN OF RESPECTIVE RACE?
6. weaker interpersonal bonds ARE YOU INCLUDING AS "INTERPERSONAL BONDS" WHEN GRANDMAS HAVE TO HELP SINGLE MOTHERS BECAUSE DAD IS MISSING IN ACTION?
7. tendency for white American males to commit mass murders DO YOU KNOW WHAT "TENDENCY" MEANS?
And then tell me that as a race, you're happier.
Now, can you (not "black people"), address why you are so obsessed with this?
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:41
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
Well, on another note, BeachHouseGirl with 4 kids who was "super bugged" by her videogame-playing SIL yesterday should be glad that this thread -- and not hers -- has kept us occupied all afternoon! 
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:38
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Let me tell you something which I used to tell my daughter, when she was about 2. She has internalized it now and at age 4.5 I never have to tell her anymore, but apparently there are some adults who never got the message!
"IT IS NEVER OKAY TO KICK."
Here is another way I used to phrase it with her:
"WE DO NOT KICK."
Not the PP you're responding to, but what's up with the obsessive focus on the young woman's response to the bicycle owner's rude comment and behavior? Yes, it's wrong to threaten to kick someone's bike. It's also wrong to bother someone without an apology.
If you were at a playground with your child, and your child accidentally bugged another kid, and didn't say sorry, and so the other kid said, "I am going to kick your bike!" which kid do you think was more in the wrong? I say the one who threatened the kick.
And I say it's 100X worse in the Metro situation b/c we are talking abotu adults, not children. Who kicks? Outside of like, karate class? Strangest thing I ever ever heard of.
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:38
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:White people, please address-
1. low self-esteem
2. high rates of eating disorders
3. high rates of depression
4. high rates of antidepressant use
5. high suicide rates (one of the leading causes of death for whites)
6. weaker interpersonal bonds
7. tendency for white American males to commit mass murders
And then tell me that as a race, you're happier.
First of all, are there white people on here claiming they are happier, or better, or anything else??? Second, to start thowing blanket negative statements about a race around is just wrong. I'm sure there are MANY people could come up with about the AA race, and every other race for that matter. Please, I won't even go there. YOU sound like you have a chip on your shoulder.
Not the pp, but you actually sound very defensive and like the one with the chip on your shoulder.
Yes - reading some of these posts did make me feel defensive quite frankly. I really can't imagine if someone were to ask why black people seemed happier, coming up with a list with all that's wrong with the black culture and posting it here. It just seems wrong and like a double standard.
You cannot be happy if you let anonymous people make you feel defensive.
Ha - well, I am happy. Maybe pregnant and hormonal, but definitely happy. And you are right, enough of these anonymous boards - these comments are making me feel sad about race relations.
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:37
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Let me tell you something which I used to tell my daughter, when she was about 2. She has internalized it now and at age 4.5 I never have to tell her anymore, but apparently there are some adults who never got the message!
"IT IS NEVER OKAY TO KICK."
Here is another way I used to phrase it with her:
"WE DO NOT KICK."
Not the PP you're responding to, but what's up with the obsessive focus on the young woman's response to the bicycle owner's rude comment and behavior? Yes, it's wrong to threaten to kick someone's bike. It's also wrong to bother someone without an apology.
"Threaten to kick" > "neglected to say sorry."
She said she was going to kick the bike. He was hitting her repeatedly with his bike. If he didn't stop hitting her, she was going to kick the bike away from her. Would I have threatened to kick his bike? No. But I also would have said sorry to the person I kept HITTING with my bike.
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:36
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
On the issue of happiness (or perceived happiness) many men like foreign women because they say American women are unhappy and rude.
Anonymous
08/15/2012 16:35
Subject: Why do White People seem so happy most of the time?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Let me tell you something which I used to tell my daughter, when she was about 2. She has internalized it now and at age 4.5 I never have to tell her anymore, but apparently there are some adults who never got the message!
"IT IS NEVER OKAY TO KICK."
Here is another way I used to phrase it with her:
"WE DO NOT KICK."
Not the PP you're responding to, but what's up with the obsessive focus on the young woman's response to the bicycle owner's rude comment and behavior? Yes, it's wrong to threaten to kick someone's bike. It's also wrong to bother someone without an apology.
"Threaten to kick" > "neglected to say sorry."