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Anonymous wrote:She said she thought her mother was watching the children. Sounds to me like grandma screwed up.

are you fucking kidding me? blaming the grandmother?

Anonymous wrote:OK
we do not know must stop
much nicer to judge when we do know
She was able to support her kids. She was not homeless, they had a home, with running water and electricity, food.

And when kids are sleeping, that is the time to slip out, if that is what you are going to do

Anonymous wrote:She said she thought her mother was watching the children. Sounds to me like grandma screwed up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Back in the '70s we lived in a high rise apartment block and my mom and dad would go and visit their friends who lived on the 5th floor and just call from that house and leave the phone on. That way she said they would have heard when they came to check on the phone if we were sleeping or not. She did this when me and my brother were small. They had a 2 bedroom apartment. My dad was a peasant boy who had to pay his way through college and became an engineer and by the time he graduated had 2 kids, a student loan to pay, etc
That was just life back then. I do not know the circumstances of this woman, but there really are awful awful people on this board.
Oh, we are all alive today. My mom tells me I used to play outside alone already at the age of 3. And this is the not so nice part of town, high rise building, etc

What is the point of this story? That parents can make some really irresponsible decisions and their kids might not necessarily die?

What's the point of this entire thread other than to wax on and on about what a terrible parent some woman we don't doing some things we don't think we'll ever do, with 5 kids that we'd never have unless we're independently wealthy as one person said, living in a trailer that we'd never live in, and on and on and on. Talk about a bunch of elitist assholes having fun talking about someone like your opinion is worth anything at all. But I'm sure you all feel superior. Oh. That was the point of this thread.

No. You are wrong.

The point of this thread was to vent about how irresponsible this mother was and how furious people felt that she left her babies alone so she could go out and party.

Would you do such a thing? I bet anyone with some sense of responsibility would pass on a night out if it meant leaving their child/children alone at home.

There are other poor people who would also pass because on a night out , despite living in the ghetto or a trailor park, because even though they are not rich they love their kids and have a sense of responsibility.

To add, this mother has had previous CPS issues regarding her parenting. So excuse us for being pissed off about such a woman.

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What's the point of this entire thread other than to wax on and on about what a terrible parent some woman we don't doing some things we don't think we'll ever do, with 5 kids that we'd never have unless we're independently wealthy as one person said, living in a trailer that we'd never live in, and on and on and on. Talk about a bunch of elitist assholes having fun talking about someone like your opinion is worth anything at all. But I'm sure you all feel superior. Oh. That was the point of this thread.

The point of the thread should have been that it is really tragic that these children died under such terrible circumstances, and really sad that their mother was so negligent. I agree that it got off topic with discussion of her sexuality, income, and the number of children she had. However, I still don't see what the point of your story about how your parents let you play outside alone at age 3 in the 70s.

Anonymous wrote:20:42 here
my parents irresponsible and went and partied
this mother was out, but fire was arount 11 pm, so we do not know if she left after the kids left, or how late she would have come home, or if she had a relative who was supposed to keep an eye on the trailer.
Some people believe that even single mothers are allowed to go out and dance.
Irresponsible for having so many kids? I do not get that.Living on welfare? that is not a crime. And we do not even know that.

Some people believe that even single mothers are allowed to go out and dance.

Sure, if they hire a responsible babysitter. But not if they leave the kids alone by themselves.