Anonymous wrote:And its funny to see all of the teeth gnashing about hawing about tuition and expenses and this and that.

Son: public school kid (FCPS), graduated magna cum laude from George Mason, graduated cum laude from Georgetown, and is now getting his PhD at Hopkins. Not bad for a 23 year old.

How much did we pay? Well nothing for high school. About $110k for four years of college (including a stint at Oxford), $40k for Georgetown (he got a partial grant), and Hopkins is free.

Interesting that you find that “funny”. I was a public school grad NMF went to NoWhere State Flagship (full ride academic), graduated summa cum laude. Went to MS program fully funded by NASA and ended up with a PhD from MIT. My kids go to private school. Better environment, better integration, kids love to learn. I want to keep the curiosity and wonder as long as I can. Public school has too much. . . diversity of values. Actually no one I work with willingly sends their kid public. The ones that do couldn’t get their kid in private.

Anonymous wrote:And its funny to see all of the teeth gnashing about hawing about tuition and expenses and this and that.

Son: public school kid (FCPS), graduated magna cum laude from George Mason, graduated cum laude from Georgetown, and is now getting his PhD at Hopkins. Not bad for a 23 year old.

How much did we pay? Well nothing for high school. About $110k for four years of college (including a stint at Oxford), $40k for Georgetown (he got a partial grant), and Hopkins is free.

Yawn.

First of all, this is an anecdote and it doesn’t negate the fact that private school kids are overrepresented at elite colleges.

Second, no one is impressed by your Georgetown kid studying abroad at Oxford. In fact, the most impressive Georgetown kids study abroad in more interesting places. I studied in Russia. My friend went to Cairo.

The kids who went to Oxford just wanted to hang out in England.

And of course his PhD is free. No one pays for a PhD. Hopkins is pretty good, depending on the program. I went to UChicago.

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The evidence shows private schools are overrepresented at top colleges. 30-40% of Ivy League students come from private schools.

Thats funny because I see a ton of posts on the college forum about this private school kid and that private school kid applying for and getting denied by Harvard and Princeton, and they're instead looking at Hamilton or Bates or Notre Dame.

Being at Georgetown Visitation or Sidwell is no guarantee of future placement. Coworker of mine who is one of the practice group co chairs was bemoaning the fact that his son was having to settle for Tulane (total nix from the Ivies - despite dad's pedigree).

If you’re a Sidwell student and the best school you can get into is Tulane, you’re likely in the bottom quarter of the class. Nothing against Tulane, but the students it’s getting from Sidwell are usually not scholars (not necessarily dumb, just not hard workers).

They sent at least 8 last year to Tulane and I know for a fact that it was first choice/ ED/ only-school-they-wanted for at least 2 or 3 of them. Not bottom quarter of the class, either. You underplay the appeal of Tulane to the typical 17 YO.

Tulane used to have a reputation as a party school, but that has changed over the past twenty years. It's acceptance rate in 2006 was 45%. More recently, it's hovered around 10-12%.

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The evidence shows private schools are overrepresented at top colleges. 30-40% of Ivy League students come from private schools.

Thats funny because I see a ton of posts on the college forum about this private school kid and that private school kid applying for and getting denied by Harvard and Princeton, and they're instead looking at Hamilton or Bates or Notre Dame.

Being at Georgetown Visitation or Sidwell is no guarantee of future placement. Coworker of mine who is one of the practice group co chairs was bemoaning the fact that his son was having to settle for Tulane (total nix from the Ivies - despite dad's pedigree).

It’s not “placement.”

There are enough private school kids to make up large minorities at Ivies and popular SLACs, with some left over for the Tulanes of the world.

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The evidence shows private schools are overrepresented at top colleges. 30-40% of Ivy League students come from private schools.

Thats funny because I see a ton of posts on the college forum about this private school kid and that private school kid applying for and getting denied by Harvard and Princeton, and they're instead looking at Hamilton or Bates or Notre Dame.

Being at Georgetown Visitation or Sidwell is no guarantee of future placement. Coworker of mine who is one of the practice group co chairs was bemoaning the fact that his son was having to settle for Tulane (total nix from the Ivies - despite dad's pedigree).

If you’re a Sidwell student and the best school you can get into is Tulane, you’re likely in the bottom quarter of the class. Nothing against Tulane, but the students it’s getting from Sidwell are usually not scholars (not necessarily dumb, just not hard workers).

They sent at least 8 last year to Tulane and I know for a fact that it was first choice/ ED/ only-school-they-wanted for at least 2 or 3 of them. Not bottom quarter of the class, either. You underplay the appeal of Tulane to the typical 17 YO.

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The evidence shows private schools are overrepresented at top colleges. 30-40% of Ivy League students come from private schools.

Thats funny because I see a ton of posts on the college forum about this private school kid and that private school kid applying for and getting denied by Harvard and Princeton, and they're instead looking at Hamilton or Bates or Notre Dame.

Being at Georgetown Visitation or Sidwell is no guarantee of future placement. Coworker of mine who is one of the practice group co chairs was bemoaning the fact that his son was having to settle for Tulane (total nix from the Ivies - despite dad's pedigree).

If you’re a Sidwell student and the best school you can get into is Tulane, you’re likely in the bottom quarter of the class. Nothing against Tulane, but the students it’s getting from Sidwell are usually not scholars (not necessarily dumb, just not hard workers).

It might be more useful to focus on something a bit more productive—like debating the sex of the angels.

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Anonymous wrote:And its funny to see all of the teeth gnashing about hawing about tuition and expenses and this and that.

Son: public school kid (FCPS), graduated magna cum laude from George Mason, graduated cum laude from Georgetown, and is now getting his PhD at Hopkins. Not bad for a 23 year old.

How much did we pay? Well nothing for high school. About $110k for four years of college (including a stint at Oxford), $40k for Georgetown (he got a partial grant), and Hopkins is free.

Oh well, the PHD is free. That shouldn't be in this conversation. My whole education in my home country was free. I also got a PhD from Ivies. It is also becoming increasingly popular to study abroad.

But is a private school all about college placement?

Apparently it is for public school parents who like to make broad claims without presenting evidence. Those claims also happen to contradict available evidence.

Anonymous wrote:And its funny to see all of the teeth gnashing about hawing about tuition and expenses and this and that.

Son: public school kid (FCPS), graduated magna cum laude from George Mason, graduated cum laude from Georgetown, and is now getting his PhD at Hopkins. Not bad for a 23 year old.

How much did we pay? Well nothing for high school. About $110k for four years of college (including a stint at Oxford), $40k for Georgetown (he got a partial grant), and Hopkins is free.

Oh well, the PHD is free. That shouldn't be in this conversation. My whole education in my home country was free. I also got a PhD from Ivies. It is also becoming increasingly popular to study abroad.

But is a private school all about college placement?

Anonymous wrote:And its funny to see all of the teeth gnashing about hawing about tuition and expenses and this and that.

Son: public school kid (FCPS), graduated magna cum laude from George Mason, graduated cum laude from Georgetown, and is now getting his PhD at Hopkins. Not bad for a 23 year old.

How much did we pay? Well nothing for high school. About $110k for four years of college (including a stint at Oxford), $40k for Georgetown (he got a partial grant), and Hopkins is free.

I see what you are doing on our forum- you are trying to get business for your financial advisory services. Spend $110k, get a PhD at Georgetown decisions require some real skill. Thank you for sharing your amazing talent with us, stupid people

From Forbes:

Although private school students made up only 8.5% of American students in 9-12th grades in 2019, they accounted for almost 40% of the incoming freshmen classes of 2025 at Harvard and Yale, and over 40% of the class of 2026 at Dartmouth.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherrim/2022/11/15/the-supreme-court-may-change-the-landscape-of-ivy-league-feeder-schools/

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The evidence shows private schools are overrepresented at top colleges. 30-40% of Ivy League students come from private schools.

Thats funny because I see a ton of posts on the college forum about this private school kid and that private school kid applying for and getting denied by Harvard and Princeton, and they're instead looking at Hamilton or Bates or Notre Dame.

Being at Georgetown Visitation or Sidwell is no guarantee of future placement. Coworker of mine who is one of the practice group co chairs was bemoaning the fact that his son was having to settle for Tulane (total nix from the Ivies - despite dad's pedigree).

No one said it was a guarantee. And anecdotes do not substantiate the broad claim that private schools do not send kids to elite colleges at a higher rate — or even that they do so at a lower rate than public schools.

You have yet to provide any data to back up your claims beyond allusions to posts or anecdotes about people you know.

Anonymous wrote:And its funny to see all of the teeth gnashing about hawing about tuition and expenses and this and that.

Son: public school kid (FCPS), graduated magna cum laude from George Mason, graduated cum laude from Georgetown, and is now getting his PhD at Hopkins. Not bad for a 23 year old.

How much did we pay? Well nothing for high school. About $110k for four years of college (including a stint at Oxford), $40k for Georgetown (he got a partial grant), and Hopkins is free.

Cool story bro

And its funny to see all of the teeth gnashing about hawing about tuition and expenses and this and that.

Son: public school kid (FCPS), graduated magna cum laude from George Mason, graduated cum laude from Georgetown, and is now getting his PhD at Hopkins. Not bad for a 23 year old.

How much did we pay? Well nothing for high school. About $110k for four years of college (including a stint at Oxford), $40k for Georgetown (he got a partial grant), and Hopkins is free.

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The evidence shows private schools are overrepresented at top colleges. 30-40% of Ivy League students come from private schools.

Thats funny because I see a ton of posts on the college forum about this private school kid and that private school kid applying for and getting denied by Harvard and Princeton, and they're instead looking at Hamilton or Bates or Notre Dame.

Being at Georgetown Visitation or Sidwell is no guarantee of future placement. Coworker of mine who is one of the practice group co chairs was bemoaning the fact that his son was having to settle for Tulane (total nix from the Ivies - despite dad's pedigree).