Anonymous wrote:Did it occur to no one that maybe Wootton is considered for moving to Crown because of the 3 HSs named by Taylor as needing construction (Wootton, Magruder, Damascus), Wootton is the closest in proximity to the new building?
So not Wootton entitlement or being the loudest. Some people need to give the diatribe against Wootton/Asians a rest.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Makes zero sense to build a new HS and fix up a crumbling one when enrollment is decreasing, budgets are being cut, and tax revenue is down.
The kids will be fine taking a bus instead of walking. Thousands of kids do it in MCPS. They will be fine.
More like 50% of the kids who can walk to Wootton will be forced to take a bus. That means their parents will have to drive to pick up for after school activities, further clogging the roads around Crown.
Wootton can be repaired in the interim, and renovated in the long term. It's just that MCPS doesn't want to do that.
They will survive. Gosh, how do the rest of us schlubs manage put our kids on the bus and drive to pick them up after school for activities.
Moco tax revenues are down. Enrollment is declining. Makes zero sense to rebuild Wootton for a few neighborhoods to have to take a bus.
I don't work for MCPS, and I think it's a stupid idea to fix Wootton AND open Crown.
It’s stupid idea to build crown. MCPS’s mismanagement is undeniable. They poured resources into opening an unnecessary school while neglecting Wootton’s needs, now forcing Wootton to become the victim of their poor planning and lose its current building where they belong for 50+ years. It’s no different from Silver Spring international middle school which is forced to close.
Have you been following anything? The land was a gift to MCPS. And if they didn't build something there it would have been taken away.
There are many things I fault MCPS with, but not building Crown.
Its the Wootton families who are making it a big deal because more blacks and browns and poors will be part of that school.
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Sorry to be insensitive. But this sounds like a choice of “eat sh*t” vs “eat a big load of sh*t”, at least for some families.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the most hated school in the county for racist reasons…we don’t have the levels of other W schools yet our average SAT results and MCAP pass rates are higher. We are a majority minority school where most parents are immigrants to this country. Unfortunately we have the wrong kind of minority that woke justice warriors like to dump on. Every other thread is about Wootton. It’s insane. Yes, we don’t fit your crazed racial narratives. We are sorry for having a student body of capable kids.
Wootton parents are complaining about the facilities and want immediate action. Due to the wasteful spending with no accountability or transparency, there is NO money to repair or replace the failing schools, and Wootton is not alone; they are just the ones making the biggest fuss. So, MCPS came up with a solution to give them Crown. That's not an unreasonable solution.
Wootton families get penalized by MCPS poor planning and wasteful spending?
Do you not understand how many schools are in the same condition but the difference is you are being offered a brand new school nearby! Plus, your kids get access to so many more courses, clubs and activities while ours get the absolute minimum. I’d take that new school over our mold infested one.
Some wootton families dont want a new school. They want to stay where they are, and asking for a renovation of school. MCPS planned poorly with the budget, spending millions of dollars on a new school, and now they are saying they dont have enough enrollment, so Wootton has to go?
The county is losing $800+ million in revenue over the next 6 years, enrollment is declining, and there is a brand new $300 million dollar high school 2.5 miles from one that needs to be torn down. In what universe do we build an additional $300 million dollar school under these circumstances?
Was it bad planning? Yes. Was it preventable? Yes. But this is where we are today and dragging the county into more bonding when debt service is already a huge chunk of the budget is not the solution. Nor is raising income tax or property tax unless you want middle-class and upper-middle class homeowners to revolt.
It’s not ideal but it’s the best of a bunch of bad options and personally, it’s the first time I can recall MCPS actually proposing something practical rather than aspirational since the Great Recession.
I don’t disagree that the county faces major fiscal pressure — but that’s exactly why we need better planning, not short-term fixes that create bigger long-term problems. Moving an entire cluster into Crown is not a cost-saving plan; it’s a way of avoiding the consequences of past planning mistakes, and it doesn’t actually eliminate the need to rebuild Wootton. The building will not magically fix itself simply because its students are reassigned. Whether Wootton is occupied or not, MCPS will still eventually have to address a failing facility, and pushing that cost down the road does not make it go away.
The point is.. MCPS doesn't really need another HS due to falling enrollment. There will be a brand new HS. The best use of it is to close the neighboring crumbling HS and move the students to the new HS.
But, yes, MCPS is a hot mess and needs better CIP planning. But, the two things are not mutually exclusive. IMO, making Crown into Wootton 2.0 is good CIP planning.
Nope my kid can walk home from wootton or take a city bus they can not from crown nope nope nope
If Wootton parents really don't want a nice new building at Crown and would prefer to stay at the crappy current building, fine. But don't expect the rest of us to pay for renovations to the current Wootton building. You had your choice, you decided that walkability or whatever was more important than a good building, then live with the issues at the Wootton building indefinitely. You don't get to have it both ways
How is "we'll give you a nice new building slightly further away from your house" asking them to eat sh*t? Do they not understand that "your high school might be a couple miles further away from you" and/or "there will be some fairly modest changes to your high school's boundaries" is exactly what a huge share of us across the county are dealing with right now, and we don't even get a nice building out of it? Do Wootton families think they're so special that they should be guaranteed a walkable school, no boundary changes, AMD tons of expensive renovations, while the rest of us get only one or none of those things? Sorry, guys, you have to choose.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Makes zero sense to build a new HS and fix up a crumbling one when enrollment is decreasing, budgets are being cut, and tax revenue is down.
The kids will be fine taking a bus instead of walking. Thousands of kids do it in MCPS. They will be fine.
More like 50% of the kids who can walk to Wootton will be forced to take a bus. That means their parents will have to drive to pick up for after school activities, further clogging the roads around Crown.
Wootton can be repaired in the interim, and renovated in the long term. It's just that MCPS doesn't want to do that.
They will survive. Gosh, how do the rest of us schlubs manage put our kids on the bus and drive to pick them up after school for activities.
Moco tax revenues are down. Enrollment is declining. Makes zero sense to rebuild Wootton for a few neighborhoods to have to take a bus.
I don't work for MCPS, and I think it's a stupid idea to fix Wootton AND open Crown.
It’s stupid idea to build crown. MCPS’s mismanagement is undeniable. They poured resources into opening an unnecessary school while neglecting Wootton’s needs, now forcing Wootton to become the victim of their poor planning and lose its current building where they belong for 50+ years. It’s no different from Silver Spring international middle school which is forced to close.
Sure, MCPS sucks, but when they started to build Crown, all of the surrounding HS were projected to be over capacity, and they didn't have this regional model concept.
Now, they are projecting enrollment declines, and we have a huge budget issue.
Yes, they should've fixed Wootton a while ago, but there were a lot of schools that needed to be fixed in the CIP.
So, here we are, declining enrollments, budget issues, a brand new HS, and another HS next to that new build that is falling apart.
Common sense is to move the Wootton kids to Crown.
This. Move Wootton to Crown, move many feeders to QO and Crown and improve QO and Crown. Wootton will not suffer much because of this (other than the parents crying about mixing with the brown and black people).
Wootton is not that special that they get to segregate all the Asians there. Spread them around to improve the other schools. Tiger parents will make the other schools also better.
Anonymous wrote:How much does being three miles from a high school effect housing price. From what I've seen even in rural areas with easy drives, it knocks of a hundred or two hundred grand from the price of the house.
Most people would prefer a school that is a seven or eight over being three miles in congested traffic from the school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Makes zero sense to build a new HS and fix up a crumbling one when enrollment is decreasing, budgets are being cut, and tax revenue is down.
The kids will be fine taking a bus instead of walking. Thousands of kids do it in MCPS. They will be fine.
More like 50% of the kids who can walk to Wootton will be forced to take a bus. That means their parents will have to drive to pick up for after school activities, further clogging the roads around Crown.
Wootton can be repaired in the interim, and renovated in the long term. It's just that MCPS doesn't want to do that.
They will survive. Gosh, how do the rest of us schlubs manage put our kids on the bus and drive to pick them up after school for activities.
Moco tax revenues are down. Enrollment is declining. Makes zero sense to rebuild Wootton for a few neighborhoods to have to take a bus.
I don't work for MCPS, and I think it's a stupid idea to fix Wootton AND open Crown.
It’s stupid idea to build crown. MCPS’s mismanagement is undeniable. They poured resources into opening an unnecessary school while neglecting Wootton’s needs, now forcing Wootton to become the victim of their poor planning and lose its current building where they belong for 50+ years. It’s no different from Silver Spring international middle school which is forced to close.
Sure, MCPS sucks, but when they started to build Crown, all of the surrounding HS were projected to be over capacity, and they didn't have this regional model concept.
Now, they are projecting enrollment declines, and we have a huge budget issue.
Yes, they should've fixed Wootton a while ago, but there were a lot of schools that needed to be fixed in the CIP.
So, here we are, declining enrollments, budget issues, a brand new HS, and another HS next to that new build that is falling apart.
Common sense is to move the Wootton kids to Crown.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Makes zero sense to build a new HS and fix up a crumbling one when enrollment is decreasing, budgets are being cut, and tax revenue is down.
The kids will be fine taking a bus instead of walking. Thousands of kids do it in MCPS. They will be fine.
More like 50% of the kids who can walk to Wootton will be forced to take a bus. That means their parents will have to drive to pick up for after school activities, further clogging the roads around Crown.
Wootton can be repaired in the interim, and renovated in the long term. It's just that MCPS doesn't want to do that.
They will survive. Gosh, how do the rest of us schlubs manage put our kids on the bus and drive to pick them up after school for activities.
Moco tax revenues are down. Enrollment is declining. Makes zero sense to rebuild Wootton for a few neighborhoods to have to take a bus.
I don't work for MCPS, and I think it's a stupid idea to fix Wootton AND open Crown.
It’s stupid idea to build crown. MCPS’s mismanagement is undeniable. They poured resources into opening an unnecessary school while neglecting Wootton’s needs, now forcing Wootton to become the victim of their poor planning and lose its current building where they belong for 50+ years. It’s no different from Silver Spring international middle school which is forced to close.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the most hated school in the county for racist reasons…we don’t have the levels of other W schools yet our average SAT results and MCAP pass rates are higher. We are a majority minority school where most parents are immigrants to this country. Unfortunately we have the wrong kind of minority that woke justice warriors like to dump on. Every other thread is about Wootton. It’s insane. Yes, we don’t fit your crazed racial narratives. We are sorry for having a student body of capable kids.
Wootton parents are complaining about the facilities and want immediate action. Due to the wasteful spending with no accountability or transparency, there is NO money to repair or replace the failing schools, and Wootton is not alone; they are just the ones making the biggest fuss. So, MCPS came up with a solution to give them Crown. That's not an unreasonable solution.
Instead of spending tens of millions on the unpopular regions model, MCPS should do option 1 (Strengthen local schools—add programs the students at that school want, not add every single program) and fix schools like Sherwood and Wootton.
Anonymous wrote:How much does being three miles from a high school effect housing price. From what I've seen even in rural areas with easy drives, it knocks of a hundred or two hundred grand from the price of the house.
Most people would prefer a school that is a seven or eight over being three miles in congested traffic from the school.
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Sorry to be insensitive. But this sounds like a choice of “eat sh*t” vs “eat a big load of sh*t”, at least for some families.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the most hated school in the county for racist reasons…we don’t have the levels of other W schools yet our average SAT results and MCAP pass rates are higher. We are a majority minority school where most parents are immigrants to this country. Unfortunately we have the wrong kind of minority that woke justice warriors like to dump on. Every other thread is about Wootton. It’s insane. Yes, we don’t fit your crazed racial narratives. We are sorry for having a student body of capable kids.
Wootton parents are complaining about the facilities and want immediate action. Due to the wasteful spending with no accountability or transparency, there is NO money to repair or replace the failing schools, and Wootton is not alone; they are just the ones making the biggest fuss. So, MCPS came up with a solution to give them Crown. That's not an unreasonable solution.
Wootton families get penalized by MCPS poor planning and wasteful spending?
Do you not understand how many schools are in the same condition but the difference is you are being offered a brand new school nearby! Plus, your kids get access to so many more courses, clubs and activities while ours get the absolute minimum. I’d take that new school over our mold infested one.
Some wootton families dont want a new school. They want to stay where they are, and asking for a renovation of school. MCPS planned poorly with the budget, spending millions of dollars on a new school, and now they are saying they dont have enough enrollment, so Wootton has to go?
The county is losing $800+ million in revenue over the next 6 years, enrollment is declining, and there is a brand new $300 million dollar high school 2.5 miles from one that needs to be torn down. In what universe do we build an additional $300 million dollar school under these circumstances?
Was it bad planning? Yes. Was it preventable? Yes. But this is where we are today and dragging the county into more bonding when debt service is already a huge chunk of the budget is not the solution. Nor is raising income tax or property tax unless you want middle-class and upper-middle class homeowners to revolt.
It’s not ideal but it’s the best of a bunch of bad options and personally, it’s the first time I can recall MCPS actually proposing something practical rather than aspirational since the Great Recession.
I don’t disagree that the county faces major fiscal pressure — but that’s exactly why we need better planning, not short-term fixes that create bigger long-term problems. Moving an entire cluster into Crown is not a cost-saving plan; it’s a way of avoiding the consequences of past planning mistakes, and it doesn’t actually eliminate the need to rebuild Wootton. The building will not magically fix itself simply because its students are reassigned. Whether Wootton is occupied or not, MCPS will still eventually have to address a failing facility, and pushing that cost down the road does not make it go away.
The point is.. MCPS doesn't really need another HS due to falling enrollment. There will be a brand new HS. The best use of it is to close the neighboring crumbling HS and move the students to the new HS.
But, yes, MCPS is a hot mess and needs better CIP planning. But, the two things are not mutually exclusive. IMO, making Crown into Wootton 2.0 is good CIP planning.
Nope my kid can walk home from wootton or take a city bus they can not from crown nope nope nope
If Wootton parents really don't want a nice new building at Crown and would prefer to stay at the crappy current building, fine. But don't expect the rest of us to pay for renovations to the current Wootton building. You had your choice, you decided that walkability or whatever was more important than a good building, then live with the issues at the Wootton building indefinitely. You don't get to have it both ways
How is "we'll give you a nice new building slightly further away from your house" asking them to eat sh*t? Do they not understand that "your high school might be a couple miles further away from you" and/or "there will be some fairly modest changes to your high school's boundaries" is exactly what a huge share of us across the county are dealing with right now, and we don't even get a nice building out of it? Do Wootton families think they're so special that they should be guaranteed a walkable school, no boundary changes, AMD tons of expensive renovations, while the rest of us get only one or none of those things? Sorry, guys, you have to choose.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wootton is the most hated school in the county for racist reasons…we don’t have the levels of other W schools yet our average SAT results and MCAP pass rates are higher. We are a majority minority school where most parents are immigrants to this country. Unfortunately we have the wrong kind of minority that woke justice warriors like to dump on. Every other thread is about Wootton. It’s insane. Yes, we don’t fit your crazed racial narratives. We are sorry for having a student body of capable kids.
Wootton parents are complaining about the facilities and want immediate action. Due to the wasteful spending with no accountability or transparency, there is NO money to repair or replace the failing schools, and Wootton is not alone; they are just the ones making the biggest fuss. So, MCPS came up with a solution to give them Crown. That's not an unreasonable solution.
Wootton families get penalized by MCPS poor planning and wasteful spending?
Do you not understand how many schools are in the same condition but the difference is you are being offered a brand new school nearby! Plus, your kids get access to so many more courses, clubs and activities while ours get the absolute minimum. I’d take that new school over our mold infested one.
Some wootton families dont want a new school. They want to stay where they are, and asking for a renovation of school. MCPS planned poorly with the budget, spending millions of dollars on a new school, and now they are saying they dont have enough enrollment, so Wootton has to go?
The county is losing $800+ million in revenue over the next 6 years, enrollment is declining, and there is a brand new $300 million dollar high school 2.5 miles from one that needs to be torn down. In what universe do we build an additional $300 million dollar school under these circumstances?
Was it bad planning? Yes. Was it preventable? Yes. But this is where we are today and dragging the county into more bonding when debt service is already a huge chunk of the budget is not the solution. Nor is raising income tax or property tax unless you want middle-class and upper-middle class homeowners to revolt.
It’s not ideal but it’s the best of a bunch of bad options and personally, it’s the first time I can recall MCPS actually proposing something practical rather than aspirational since the Great Recession.
I don’t disagree that the county faces major fiscal pressure — but that’s exactly why we need better planning, not short-term fixes that create bigger long-term problems. Moving an entire cluster into Crown is not a cost-saving plan; it’s a way of avoiding the consequences of past planning mistakes, and it doesn’t actually eliminate the need to rebuild Wootton. The building will not magically fix itself simply because its students are reassigned. Whether Wootton is occupied or not, MCPS will still eventually have to address a failing facility, and pushing that cost down the road does not make it go away.
The point is.. MCPS doesn't really need another HS due to falling enrollment. There will be a brand new HS. The best use of it is to close the neighboring crumbling HS and move the students to the new HS.
But, yes, MCPS is a hot mess and needs better CIP planning. But, the two things are not mutually exclusive. IMO, making Crown into Wootton 2.0 is good CIP planning.
Nope my kid can walk home from wootton or take a city bus they can not from crown nope nope nope
If Wootton parents really don't want a nice new building at Crown and would prefer to stay at the crappy current building, fine. But don't expect the rest of us to pay for renovations to the current Wootton building. You had your choice, you decided that walkability or whatever was more important than a good building, then live with the issues at the Wootton building indefinitely. You don't get to have it both ways
It's fun to watch Wooton take one for team good schools, keep all of those property prices like they should be except. Wooton.
You mean because they're shooting themselves in the foot insisting on keeping a crappy building forever?