Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But as far as your question goes, politicians say a lot of things to get elected.

Mamdani pivoted away from defund the police, racists, homophobes, IDF boot on the neck to an “apology” in 2025 to get elected. Why should the NYPD and their union trust him now?

Few people give a shit who cops and cop unions trust.

Not sure why this is so important to you.

DP
The trust and faith of the boys in blue are important to the city.
Without the zealous cooperation of the NYPD rank and file, NYC is a shit show that starts to resemble San Francisco.

“You’re not going to find a foot cop who says I’m leaving because of this mayor,” said Derby St. Fort, a captain who retired in August. “I don’t buy that. The foot cop is leaving because of how he’s treated internally within the job. He’s more worried about how his direct supervisor treats him.”

Anonymous wrote:I think this is hysterical.

Cops know how to not work when they aren’t backed up by mayors and prosecutors.

Fun times ahead!

Hi Republican troll.


“Police officers aren’t worrying about all of the overly dramatic rumors and predictions,” said Patrick Hendry, the president of the Police Benevolent Association. “They’re worrying whether they’re going to miss another family event because their command is short staffed. They’re worried about getting home safe at the end of their tour.”

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t realize Mayor-elect Mamdani has a plan to eliminate the NYPD overtime budget. That would have a substantial economic impact on every one of the NYPD’s 34,000 officers. Officers would, and should leave if the mayor actively takes money from them. As officers leave, the burden of policing NYC falls on a smaller force. Why would officers work overtime to make up for the departures if they aren’t going to get overtime pay?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/16/nyregion/nypd-mamdani-expectations.html

Cops don’t like having to do overtime for the most part

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t realize Mayor-elect Mamdani has a plan to eliminate the NYPD overtime budget. That would have a substantial economic impact on every one of the NYPD’s 34,000 officers. Officers would, and should leave if the mayor actively takes money from them. As officers leave, the burden of policing NYC falls on a smaller force. Why would officers work overtime to make up for the departures if they aren’t going to get overtime pay?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/16/nyregion/nypd-mamdani-expectations.html

Overtime isn't an entitlement. The NYPD budget is enormous and bloated. Cuts ought to start somewhere.

Exactly, anyone that doesn’t like it can leave.

Buh bye.

You have hit the nail on the head. Redirecting the NYPD overtime budget to other programs isn’t just #DefundThePolice, it is essentially #DefundPoliceOfficers. It would directly impact the rank and file officers.

Why should they stay if Mamdani takes 20%+ of their earnings away? People don’t realize that overtime can be forced. If you used to get paid extra for working extra, then they took it away and still expect you to work extra, would you stay?

The “buh bye” cavalier attitude about officers leaving when the NYPD can’t currently recruit fast enough to fully staff the department is short sighted, bordering on obtuse.

How many mental health calls will end up requiring a 911 call when the mental health professionals are overmatched?

Even if you remove all the mental health and homeless calls do you honestly think the pace officers have to work at will suddenly improve? It won’t. In a city of 8.5M people policing is an impossible job. Cops will still be overworked at full staffing levels. When officers start to leave that makes more work for the remaining officers.

The more I hear and read, the less optimistic I get about the future of the city. I’m old enough to remember a NYC where apartments had every window broken as high up as people could throw rocks, and torched cars with no wheels along the sides of the Cross Bronx Expressway.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t realize Mayor-elect Mamdani has a plan to eliminate the NYPD overtime budget. That would have a substantial economic impact on every one of the NYPD’s 34,000 officers. Officers would, and should leave if the mayor actively takes money from them. As officers leave, the burden of policing NYC falls on a smaller force. Why would officers work overtime to make up for the departures if they aren’t going to get overtime pay?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/16/nyregion/nypd-mamdani-expectations.html

Overtime isn't an entitlement. The NYPD budget is enormous and bloated. Cuts ought to start somewhere.

Exactly, anyone that doesn’t like it can leave.

Buh bye.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But as far as your question goes, politicians say a lot of things to get elected.

Mamdani pivoted away from defund the police, racists, homophobes, IDF boot on the neck to an “apology” in 2025 to get elected. Why should the NYPD and their union trust him now?

Few people give a shit who cops and cop unions trust.

Not sure why this is so important to you.

DP
The trust and faith of the boys in blue are important to the city.
Without the zealous cooperation of the NYPD rank and file, NYC is a shit show that starts to resemble San Francisco.

Two of the richest and most desirable cities in the world?

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t realize Mayor-elect Mamdani has a plan to eliminate the NYPD overtime budget. That would have a substantial economic impact on every one of the NYPD’s 34,000 officers. Officers would, and should leave if the mayor actively takes money from them. As officers leave, the burden of policing NYC falls on a smaller force. Why would officers work overtime to make up for the departures if they aren’t going to get overtime pay?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/16/nyregion/nypd-mamdani-expectations.html

Overtime isn't an entitlement. The NYPD budget is enormous and bloated. Cuts ought to start somewhere.

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t realize Mayor-elect Mamdani has a plan to eliminate the NYPD overtime budget. That would have a substantial economic impact on every one of the NYPD’s 34,000 officers. Officers would, and should leave if the mayor actively takes money from them. As officers leave, the burden of policing NYC falls on a smaller force. Why would officers work overtime to make up for the departures if they aren’t going to get overtime pay?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/16/nyregion/nypd-mamdani-expectations.html

Back in reality…

What Is Mamdani’s Police / Public-Safety Reform Plan (Overtime & Beyond)
1. Creation of a Department of Community Safety (DCS)
• Mamdani proposes a new civilian-led Department of Community Safety with a proposed $1.1 billion budget. 
• The DCS would handle things like mental-health crises, violence prevention, and social services — shifting these responsibilities away from the police in some cases. 
• Specifically, he wants mental health outreach workers to respond to emotionally disturbed individuals: for example, in subway stations, these teams would go instead of police to de-escalate and connect people to care. 
• The campaign argues that this would free up police officers to focus more on serious crime (shootings, murders, etc.). 
2. Cutting Police Overtime
• As part of his reform, Mamdani has said he would reduce or cut the NYPD’s overtime budget. 
• He frames this not as shrinking the size of the police force, but reallocating some of their work: taking away lower-level or non-urgent tasks that don’t necessarily require an armed officer. 
• He has also criticized the NYPD’s “communications budget” (which may tie into overall spending inefficiencies) and wants to reorient funds toward prevention and social-service responses. 
3. Maintaining Police Staffing (But Changing Their Role)
• Importantly, Mamdani does not plan to drastically shrink the NYPD. He has said he’ll keep the current size more or less stable. 
• The idea is that, with some calls diverted to the DCS, the police can concentrate on core public-safety work (violent crime, serious calls) rather than being “stretched thin” doing social-worker-type work. 
• In his vision, the police and the new DCS coexist and cooperate: they’re not mutually exclusive.
4. Addressing Response Times and Effectiveness
• Mamdani argues that by having social-service experts handle non-violent/emotional calls, response times to serious crime could improve because police are less burdened. 
• He also argues that many calls currently handled by police are “gaps” — mental health crises, homelessness — that are better handled by trained outreach workers. 
5. Funding the Plan
• Part of the $1.1B for the DCS would be reallocated from existing programs (about $605 million), while the rest (~$455 million) would come from new funding. 
• He intends to raise some of this money through increased taxes, especially targeting wealthier neighborhoods. (That’s part of his broader affordability / redistribution agenda.) 
6. Walk-Back / Moderation of Earlier “Defund” Rhetoric
• Mamdani has walked back some of his earlier, more radical “defund the police” language. 
• He now argues for a more nuanced approach: not abolition, but restructuring — changing how and when police are used, and giving other actors (social workers, mental-health professionals) a formal, institutional role. 

Anonymous wrote:#DefundThePolice

https://nypost.com/2025/11/15/us-news/mamdani-taps-defund-the-police-champion-to-head-team-steering-his-transition-to-nyc-mayor/

Why does a retired boomer cop need a half a million dollar pension? Boomers are so selfish

I didn’t realize Mayor-elect Mamdani has a plan to eliminate the NYPD overtime budget. That would have a substantial economic impact on every one of the NYPD’s 34,000 officers. Officers would, and should leave if the mayor actively takes money from them. As officers leave, the burden of policing NYC falls on a smaller force. Why would officers work overtime to make up for the departures if they aren’t going to get overtime pay?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/16/nyregion/nypd-mamdani-expectations.html

Mamdani will fail and the people who supported him will end up in a city with higher crime and more social dysfunction.

I think this is hysterical.

Cops know how to not work when they aren’t backed up by mayors and prosecutors.

Fun times ahead!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But as far as your question goes, politicians say a lot of things to get elected.

Mamdani pivoted away from defund the police, racists, homophobes, IDF boot on the neck to an “apology” in 2025 to get elected. Why should the NYPD and their union trust him now?

Few people give a shit who cops and cop unions trust.

Not sure why this is so important to you.

DP
The trust and faith of the boys in blue are important to the city.
Without the zealous cooperation of the NYPD rank and file, NYC is a shit show that starts to resemble San Francisco.

Anonymous wrote:

This real world thinking may be shocking to posters here.