Anonymous
10/07/2025 12:28
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
10-15% of HC students are varsity athletes. BC is the Catholic BU with BU having a better campus.
Anonymous
10/07/2025 12:28
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Have family that went to both HC and BC. Very small sample but Holy Cross relatives more successful not close. Would not pay to go to BC or Villanova, full pay to ND and half pay to HC. No interest in Georgetown.
Yeah we saw your post earlier in the thread. What generation are they? Seems HC has gone downhill and BC is rising.
This is incorrect.
2 generations ago: HC>BC
1 generation ago: HC = BC
Since then, BC>HC, but Bc was on a huge upswing compared to all schools and is still hot; HC was stagnant for a while and is on the upswing again the last few years.
Stock of both is now rising; BC stock price is higher but HC is now rising faster as a “buy”
Posters are getting too bogged down in the Catholic school thing. BC is hot because it is a great all around school “in” Boston with happy students. HC is rising because it is that sweet spot “target” school for top students and a low reach for others — and because it is a larger northeast SLAC not in the middle of nowhere…
Anonymous
10/07/2025 12:26
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
LOL, BC is stuck in neutral!
Anonymous
10/07/2025 12:20
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
Anonymous wrote:To the contrast, HC rose 1 point to 27th in Liberal Arts Category which includes the 3 Service Academies. Colgate is 22 and Colby 24 both are Holy Cross peers. By contrast BC is stuck in the 36-37 range for several years and when US News first ranked in the 1980s, Boston College was not ranked in the top 50. At 36 its peers are BU and UIllinois. Excluding the 3 Academies, Holy Cross is a top 24 school with a top 5 alumni giving rate in the high 45-47% range and an alumni success outcomes that BC boosters envy.
Do you realize that you are grasping for straws and severely embarrassing yourself? Your enrolled student body is not elite as much as you think they are. Holy Cross's 75% SAT score of 1420 is lower than Boston College's 25% SAT score of 1450. Same with ACT scores with HC 75% at 32 and BC 25% at 33. Just give it up.
It's great that you have a strong alumni base. That is the has been strength of the school..the students that are long and gone. Future of HC is grim based on the level of students currently enrolling. They need to do better to attract smart kids.
Anonymous
10/07/2025 12:09
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
Glaring statistic, Holy Cross alumni giving rate at roughly 50% is traditionally twice that of BC’s in the mid 20s range. Possibly buyers remorse in Chestnut Hill or no money.
Anonymous
10/07/2025 11:50
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
To the contrast, HC rose 1 point to 27th in Liberal Arts Category which includes the 3 Service Academies. Colgate is 22 and Colby 24 both are Holy Cross peers. By contrast BC is stuck in the 36-37 range for several years and when US News first ranked in the 1980s, Boston College was not ranked in the top 50. At 36 its peers are BU and UIllinois. Excluding the 3 Academies, Holy Cross is a top 24 school with a top 5 alumni giving rate in the high 45-47% range and an alumni success outcomes that BC boosters envy.
Anonymous
10/07/2025 11:24
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
Anonymous wrote:Have family that went to both HC and BC. Very small sample but Holy Cross relatives more successful not close. Would not pay to go to BC or Villanova, full pay to ND and half pay to HC. No interest in Georgetown.
Yeah we saw your post earlier in the thread. What generation are they? Seems HC has gone downhill and BC is rising.
Anonymous
10/07/2025 11:12
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
Have family that went to both HC and BC. Very small sample but Holy Cross relatives more successful not close. Would not pay to go to BC or Villanova, full pay to ND and half pay to HC. No interest in Georgetown.
Anonymous
10/07/2025 10:59
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
I am the PP who posted the scores. I am not a BC booster. My kid will apply but not first choice. But I did find it remarkable that scores of BC more in line with ND and how low HC is considering all the boosting of HC on this thread.
I think comparing BC with HC, it is a more vibrant campus. That’s how my DC described it.
I think comparing BC with HC, it is a more vibrant campus. That’s how my DC described it.
Anonymous
10/07/2025 10:49
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
On a good day its Nova with a horrible Basketball program and football. Very small fraction usually leš than 30% Report scores and HC has lots of athletes
Anonymous
10/07/2025 10:42
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
Anonymous wrote:Looks like the BC people finally getting out of bed. First HC was and still is a great school. By any objective BC was not a good school but now their boosters claim that at 36th tied with UIllinois and behind UC San Diego, U Florida, Ga Tech, UC Davis and UC IRvine its an academic powehouse. Not. ND and Georgetown are clearly superior and BC is their Safety. BC peers are BU and NEU. Villanova ranked 57th good luck to them they need a Pope.
BC is the same as nova. Just another $hitty Catholic school in the northeast. Don’t bother differentiating.
Anonymous
10/07/2025 10:39
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
Looks like the BC people finally getting out of bed. First HC was and still is a great school. By any objective BC was not a good school but now their boosters claim that at 36th tied with UIllinois and behind UC San Diego, U Florida, Ga Tech, UC Davis and UC IRvine its an academic powehouse. Not. ND and Georgetown are clearly superior and BC is their Safety. BC peers are BU and NEU. Villanova ranked 57th good luck to them they need a Pope.
Anonymous
10/07/2025 09:12
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
Anonymous wrote:It seems like HC is trying to increase its applications. No essay is required and my daughter got a fee waiver without asking (not due to economic conditions). I am sure they are giving these waivers left and right. They are totally focused on ED1 and 2. My daughter will apply RD as a safety in case she doesn't get into ND, BC, Georgetown, or Villanova. Those are her choices in order of preference. I think this is a typical preference with some preferring BC or GU over ND. But I have never heard of anyone having HC as their first choice unless their stats are so bad they would never get into ND or BC.
Let's look at some hard numbers from CDS to set this booster straight.
SAT 25-75%
HC 1270-1420
BC 1450-1520
Villanova 1410-1490
ND1470-1540
ACT 25-75%
HC 28-32
BC 33-34
Villanova 32-34
ND 33-35
Six Year Graduation Rate
HC 90%
BC 90%
Villanova 92%
ND 95%
Wow I had no idea HC had such low scores.
Anonymous
10/07/2025 08:36
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
It seems like HC is trying to increase its applications. No essay is required and my daughter got a fee waiver without asking (not due to economic conditions). I am sure they are giving these waivers left and right. They are totally focused on ED1 and 2. My daughter will apply RD as a safety in case she doesn't get into ND, BC, Georgetown, or Villanova. Those are her choices in order of preference. I think this is a typical preference with some preferring BC or GU over ND. But I have never heard of anyone having HC as their first choice unless their stats are so bad they would never get into ND or BC.
Let's look at some hard numbers from CDS to set this booster straight.
SAT 25-75%
HC 1270-1420
BC 1450-1520
Villanova 1410-1490
ND1470-1540
ACT 25-75%
HC 28-32
BC 33-34
Villanova 32-34
ND 33-35
Six Year Graduation Rate
HC 90%
BC 90%
Villanova 92%
ND 95%
Let's look at some hard numbers from CDS to set this booster straight.
SAT 25-75%
HC 1270-1420
BC 1450-1520
Villanova 1410-1490
ND1470-1540
ACT 25-75%
HC 28-32
BC 33-34
Villanova 32-34
ND 33-35
Six Year Graduation Rate
HC 90%
BC 90%
Villanova 92%
ND 95%
Anonymous
10/07/2025 08:00
Subject: College of the Holy Cross?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^By choice HC is not a pipeline for local Massachusetts politics. It always drew kids from all over the country with NY metro the biggest draw since the school founded in 1843. HC traditionally was an upper income crowd with parents being doctors, business owners, lawyers thus local politics wasn’t appealing. By contrast Boston College a school with humble roots like many other Catholic colleges-DePaul, Fordham, Providence, Seton Hall- its alums found politics as a way out of working class. Kids didn’t go to Holy Cross to be state reps similar to Notre Dame and Georgetown. On
A national stage HC has produced US Senators from NH, recently Pennsylvania, and the current Sen from Vermont. Finally David Walsh an HC grad from the 1890s was the first Irish Catholic to be elected Governor and US Senator from Massachusetts in the 1910s- a large accomplishment beating the Protestant/ Boston Brahmin elite. And of course Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas is HC Grad believe the only Catholic undergrad to hold that position. Georgetown and ND law school grads have served on the bench but not undergrads- HC holds that distinction.
My god, the idea that Clarence Thomas is a bragging point to anyone is truly terrifying.
Also notice that the PP's narrative is always in past tense. That's because it is a has been school. Yes it WAS a great school and now it is a good school.