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Anonymous wrote:Israel picks which Hamas leaders to assassinate- and its the ones that are willing to make peace with Israel. They have a very long history of such behavior.

Peace is a threat to Israel just as is the release of all hostages as it prevents Israel from further genocide and conquering of Gaza. Just a little critical thinking and observation makes this pretty obvious.

There are no Hamas members interested in peace with Israel. Hamas, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Jewish state and of the Jews as a people. Hamas "negotiators" are merely stalling for time to try to allow Hamas to reconstitute itself while they support the fiction and propaganda message that they are willing to negotiate. Their negotiating is merely the expression of extortionate demands which, if accepted, would ensure Hamas' survival.

There are no Zionists members interested in peace with Palestinians. Zionism, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Palestinian state and the Palestinians as people from their land. Israeli "negotiations" are merely stalling for time to allow Israel to exterminate and ethnically cleanse Gaza and then the West bank while they support the fiction and propaganda that they are wanting to negotiate. Their negation is just a performance for the western world to pretend that they actually desire peace, when in reality there goal is to annex Gaza and the West Bank for the creation of a Jewish majority apartheid ethnostate.

Fixed it for you. Only clueless morons will subscribe and believe your Hasbara and Zioganda.

Cute but infantile reasoning, detached from history and reality. Not even a nice try, sorry.

Yup, next thing you'll claim that there is no genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza right?

DP. I thought it was a genocide? Now you're claiming its ethnic cleansing? Which is it? Btw, would a country that is engaging in either activity ship in food equaling 4,400 calories a day for every man, woman, and child in Gaza? Seems like a bad way to engage in such evil activity. Actually caring about the people in another country that you're allegedly trying to eliminate?

Oh right, there is no famine or or starvation in Gaza. It's all Hamas generated AI propaganda!

When HAMAS and its supporters declared they will wipe Israel from off the face of the Earth, they declared themselves above the law. Therefore, it is Open Season upon them, the right to kill every living member of HAMAS, their family members, and all who aid and abet HAMAS.

The killings will continue, whether by fire or famine, let the holy wrath of God come upon the heads of Israel’s enemies. Then there will be peace. See Gandalf’s response to Saruman at the fall of Orthanc for a similar situation.

You can’t kill an idea. Hamas is an idea not a person. Killing their families will only want them to kill Jews even more

This is facile. You can certainly kill the people pursuing an idea.

DO. I’m not sure about that. You can suppress the idea and the people spouting the ideas, but you cannot kill the ideas. For instance, white nationalism and supremacy ideas were suppressed in the USA for maybe a generation, two tops. And then Trump came along and told those holding such ideas that it was okay and those people started shedding their hoods and began speaking and acting in their white nationalism and supremacy. Also, Germany thought they had killed nazism, but it appears to be in the rise in German politics and population.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel picks which Hamas leaders to assassinate- and its the ones that are willing to make peace with Israel. They have a very long history of such behavior.

Peace is a threat to Israel just as is the release of all hostages as it prevents Israel from further genocide and conquering of Gaza. Just a little critical thinking and observation makes this pretty obvious.

There are no Hamas members interested in peace with Israel. Hamas, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Jewish state and of the Jews as a people. Hamas "negotiators" are merely stalling for time to try to allow Hamas to reconstitute itself while they support the fiction and propaganda message that they are willing to negotiate. Their negotiating is merely the expression of extortionate demands which, if accepted, would ensure Hamas' survival.

There are no Zionists members interested in peace with Palestinians. Zionism, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Palestinian state and the Palestinians as people from their land. Israeli "negotiations" are merely stalling for time to allow Israel to exterminate and ethnically cleanse Gaza and then the West bank while they support the fiction and propaganda that they are wanting to negotiate. Their negation is just a performance for the western world to pretend that they actually desire peace, when in reality there goal is to annex Gaza and the West Bank for the creation of a Jewish majority apartheid ethnostate.

Fixed it for you. Only clueless morons will subscribe and believe your Hasbara and Zioganda.

Cute but infantile reasoning, detached from history and reality. Not even a nice try, sorry.

Yup, next thing you'll claim that there is no genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza right?

DP. I thought it was a genocide? Now you're claiming its ethnic cleansing? Which is it? Btw, would a country that is engaging in either activity ship in food equaling 4,400 calories a day for every man, woman, and child in Gaza? Seems like a bad way to engage in such evil activity. Actually caring about the people in another country that you're allegedly trying to eliminate?

Oh right, there is no famine or or starvation in Gaza. It's all Hamas generated AI propaganda!

When HAMAS and its supporters declared they will wipe Israel from off the face of the Earth, they declared themselves above the law. Therefore, it is Open Season upon them, the right to kill every living member of HAMAS, their family members, and all who aid and abet HAMAS.

The killings will continue, whether by fire or famine, let the holy wrath of God come upon the heads of Israel’s enemies. Then there will be peace. See Gandalf’s response to Saruman at the fall of Orthanc for a similar situation.

You can’t kill an idea. Hamas is an idea not a person. Killing their families will only want them to kill Jews even more

This is facile. You can certainly kill the people pursuing an idea.

Are those people 5 and 10 year olds? The problem is not the killing of Hamas but the mass killing of civilians. An 80% rate of civilian kills according to IDF data.

That’s what fuels Hamas and all groups like it.

Israel pretends like their strikes are all surgical/tactical strikes targeting Hamas only. They just killed an innocent Qatari security guard with a young family who had nothing to do with Hamas. I’m sure they’ve killed innocent Syrians in Latakia and innocent Yemenis and Lebanese as well in just these few days. If they wanted the region to join them in thinking Hamas are the bad guys and evil, they are doing a terrible job of pitching that

Anonymous wrote:Hamas is getting what they deserve after what they did on Oct 7th.

When will Israel get what they deserve for all the evil it has committed since 1948?

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Anonymous wrote:Israel picks which Hamas leaders to assassinate- and its the ones that are willing to make peace with Israel. They have a very long history of such behavior.

Peace is a threat to Israel just as is the release of all hostages as it prevents Israel from further genocide and conquering of Gaza. Just a little critical thinking and observation makes this pretty obvious.

There are no Hamas members interested in peace with Israel. Hamas, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Jewish state and of the Jews as a people. Hamas "negotiators" are merely stalling for time to try to allow Hamas to reconstitute itself while they support the fiction and propaganda message that they are willing to negotiate. Their negotiating is merely the expression of extortionate demands which, if accepted, would ensure Hamas' survival.

There are no Zionists members interested in peace with Palestinians. Zionism, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Palestinian state and the Palestinians as people from their land. Israeli "negotiations" are merely stalling for time to allow Israel to exterminate and ethnically cleanse Gaza and then the West bank while they support the fiction and propaganda that they are wanting to negotiate. Their negation is just a performance for the western world to pretend that they actually desire peace, when in reality there goal is to annex Gaza and the West Bank for the creation of a Jewish majority apartheid ethnostate.

Fixed it for you. Only clueless morons will subscribe and believe your Hasbara and Zioganda.

Please specify where this is expressly stated in any official Israeli documents.

NP. Wondering what your definition of Zionism is? Mine is the ideology that the Jewish people have the right to a state on their “ancestral land”. Since there were people living in that land already then,
by definition, Zionism requires the removal of the people (ie Palestinians) living on that land land.

Now if your definition of Zionism allows people living on the land to remain with equal rights I’m all for that!

People can claim all sorts of fairy tale definitions of Zionism but the lived reality of Zionism is one of forced expulsion and genocide. Don't trust the words of so called liberal Zionists and their whitewashing of terms but look at history since even before the inception of Israel and up until now.

Fabricating new definitions for words is ignorant. The dictionary definitions of words are what words actually mean, even if simpletons try to distort words for propaganda value. Zionism is defined as the movement for the re-establishment and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel, nothing more and nothing less. It is not a pejorative, despite such usage on this board; it describes a political, social, and religious movement.

Trying to use the word Zionist to mean something derogatory is the same as saying Muslim to describe terrorists. Some are, some are not.

Use words correctly.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel picks which Hamas leaders to assassinate- and its the ones that are willing to make peace with Israel. They have a very long history of such behavior.

Peace is a threat to Israel just as is the release of all hostages as it prevents Israel from further genocide and conquering of Gaza. Just a little critical thinking and observation makes this pretty obvious.

There are no Hamas members interested in peace with Israel. Hamas, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Jewish state and of the Jews as a people. Hamas "negotiators" are merely stalling for time to try to allow Hamas to reconstitute itself while they support the fiction and propaganda message that they are willing to negotiate. Their negotiating is merely the expression of extortionate demands which, if accepted, would ensure Hamas' survival.

There are no Zionists members interested in peace with Palestinians. Zionism, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Palestinian state and the Palestinians as people from their land. Israeli "negotiations" are merely stalling for time to allow Israel to exterminate and ethnically cleanse Gaza and then the West bank while they support the fiction and propaganda that they are wanting to negotiate. Their negation is just a performance for the western world to pretend that they actually desire peace, when in reality there goal is to annex Gaza and the West Bank for the creation of a Jewish majority apartheid ethnostate.

Fixed it for you. Only clueless morons will subscribe and believe your Hasbara and Zioganda.

Cute but infantile reasoning, detached from history and reality. Not even a nice try, sorry.

Yup, next thing you'll claim that there is no genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza right?

DP. I thought it was a genocide? Now you're claiming its ethnic cleansing? Which is it? Btw, would a country that is engaging in either activity ship in food equaling 4,400 calories a day for every man, woman, and child in Gaza? Seems like a bad way to engage in such evil activity. Actually caring about the people in another country that you're allegedly trying to eliminate?

Oh right, there is no famine or or starvation in Gaza. It's all Hamas generated AI propaganda!

When HAMAS and its supporters declared they will wipe Israel from off the face of the Earth, they declared themselves above the law. Therefore, it is Open Season upon them, the right to kill every living member of HAMAS, their family members, and all who aid and abet HAMAS.

The killings will continue, whether by fire or famine, let the holy wrath of God come upon the heads of Israel’s enemies. Then there will be peace. See Gandalf’s response to Saruman at the fall of Orthanc for a similar situation.

You can’t kill an idea. Hamas is an idea not a person. Killing their families will only want them to kill Jews even more

This is facile. You can certainly kill the people pursuing an idea.

Anonymous wrote:Hamas is getting what they deserve after what they did on Oct 7th.

And then Israel will “get what they deserve” and the cycle never ends. Stupid.

Anonymous wrote:Israel really has some balls bombing seven countries right before the UN general assembly. They have chosen risk over respectability.

Living on the edge is not living

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but as an older American who has followed the news and international affairs for decades, I’m inclined to believe Israel isn’t recklessly bombing anyone. Rather, Arab nations are quietly working with the US and Israel to deal with Hamas (and Iran’s tentacles) through strategic strikes.

Surely everyone realizes Israel would be swiftly dealt with if its neighbors (or the US) disapproved.

Isn’t the end game crippling Hamas once and for all? And isn’t stomping out Hamas in the best interest of the region?

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Anonymous wrote:Israel picks which Hamas leaders to assassinate- and its the ones that are willing to make peace with Israel. They have a very long history of such behavior.

Peace is a threat to Israel just as is the release of all hostages as it prevents Israel from further genocide and conquering of Gaza. Just a little critical thinking and observation makes this pretty obvious.

There are no Hamas members interested in peace with Israel. Hamas, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Jewish state and of the Jews as a people. Hamas "negotiators" are merely stalling for time to try to allow Hamas to reconstitute itself while they support the fiction and propaganda message that they are willing to negotiate. Their negotiating is merely the expression of extortionate demands which, if accepted, would ensure Hamas' survival.

There are no Zionists members interested in peace with Palestinians. Zionism, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Palestinian state and the Palestinians as people from their land. Israeli "negotiations" are merely stalling for time to allow Israel to exterminate and ethnically cleanse Gaza and then the West bank while they support the fiction and propaganda that they are wanting to negotiate. Their negation is just a performance for the western world to pretend that they actually desire peace, when in reality there goal is to annex Gaza and the West Bank for the creation of a Jewish majority apartheid ethnostate.

Fixed it for you. Only clueless morons will subscribe and believe your Hasbara and Zioganda.

Please specify where this is expressly stated in any official Israeli documents.

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Preamble to the Likud charter. Your move, dum dum.

(Good lord, where did they find you?)

Israel really has some balls bombing seven countries right before the UN general assembly. They have chosen risk over respectability.

Living on the edge is not living

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Anonymous wrote:Israel picks which Hamas leaders to assassinate- and its the ones that are willing to make peace with Israel. They have a very long history of such behavior.

Peace is a threat to Israel just as is the release of all hostages as it prevents Israel from further genocide and conquering of Gaza. Just a little critical thinking and observation makes this pretty obvious.

There are no Hamas members interested in peace with Israel. Hamas, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Jewish state and of the Jews as a people. Hamas "negotiators" are merely stalling for time to try to allow Hamas to reconstitute itself while they support the fiction and propaganda message that they are willing to negotiate. Their negotiating is merely the expression of extortionate demands which, if accepted, would ensure Hamas' survival.

There are no Zionists members interested in peace with Palestinians. Zionism, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Palestinian state and the Palestinians as people from their land. Israeli "negotiations" are merely stalling for time to allow Israel to exterminate and ethnically cleanse Gaza and then the West bank while they support the fiction and propaganda that they are wanting to negotiate. Their negation is just a performance for the western world to pretend that they actually desire peace, when in reality there goal is to annex Gaza and the West Bank for the creation of a Jewish majority apartheid ethnostate.

Fixed it for you. Only clueless morons will subscribe and believe your Hasbara and Zioganda.

Please specify where this is expressly stated in any official Israeli documents.

NP. Wondering what your definition of Zionism is? Mine is the ideology that the Jewish people have the right to a state on their “ancestral land”. Since there were people living in that land already then,
by definition, Zionism requires the removal of the people (ie Palestinians) living on that land land.

Now if your definition of Zionism allows people living on the land to remain with equal rights I’m all for that!

People can claim all sorts of fairy tale definitions of Zionism but the lived reality of Zionism is one of forced expulsion and genocide. Don't trust the words of so called liberal Zionists and their whitewashing of terms but look at history since even before the inception of Israel and up until now.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel picks which Hamas leaders to assassinate- and its the ones that are willing to make peace with Israel. They have a very long history of such behavior.

Peace is a threat to Israel just as is the release of all hostages as it prevents Israel from further genocide and conquering of Gaza. Just a little critical thinking and observation makes this pretty obvious.

There are no Hamas members interested in peace with Israel. Hamas, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Jewish state and of the Jews as a people. Hamas "negotiators" are merely stalling for time to try to allow Hamas to reconstitute itself while they support the fiction and propaganda message that they are willing to negotiate. Their negotiating is merely the expression of extortionate demands which, if accepted, would ensure Hamas' survival.

There are no Zionists members interested in peace with Palestinians. Zionism, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Palestinian state and the Palestinians as people from their land. Israeli "negotiations" are merely stalling for time to allow Israel to exterminate and ethnically cleanse Gaza and then the West bank while they support the fiction and propaganda that they are wanting to negotiate. Their negation is just a performance for the western world to pretend that they actually desire peace, when in reality there goal is to annex Gaza and the West Bank for the creation of a Jewish majority apartheid ethnostate.

Fixed it for you. Only clueless morons will subscribe and believe your Hasbara and Zioganda.

Please specify where this is expressly stated in any official Israeli documents.

NP. Wondering what your definition of Zionism is? Mine is the ideology that the Jewish people have the right to a state on their “ancestral land”. Since there were people living in that land already then,
by definition, Zionism requires the removal of the people (ie Palestinians) living on that land land.

Now if your definition of Zionism allows people living on the land to remain with equal rights I’m all for that!

Netanyahu is a blight on Israel and the future of Israel

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Anonymous wrote:Qatar is within its rights to ask the US military bases to leave. White House knew about the attack and did nothing to keep it from happening.
I hope they have the courage to take this step

the United States would send its soldiers to Doha and kill the king, the UK and US governments would arrest and detain all the Qataris on their soil and confiscate the massive amounts of property they hold there so why exactly would the Qataris do that?? you think that if they ask the Americans to leave Trump will just pack up and go home? all muslims are terrorists by default, this will end in a region wide war and al the kingdoms will be blown up and there will be nothing but sand blowing around the Kaaba.

Muslims have lived there for centuries now and have seen it all from the crusades (where Jews in Europe financed and supported Muslims against the Roman Empires back-probably the reason the region is Muslim to this day) to the fall of the Ottoman Empire to the Brits Zionist movement to the split between Brits and Zionists and now America and Russia in the region.

The ones in danger I would say are Jews 100x more than Muslims. Jews are not as big as Muslims are first off, and they’re highly unpopular apparently now among Turks, Arabs, and Iranians, with hardly a friend in Europe to count on either. This is their immediate region. The only thing they have for power is US and that relationship is hanging on a thread. The smartest thing Israel could’ve done is play nice with all their neighbors for long term security but they’d rather escalate violence and claim it’s for their survival. No, what’s for anyone’s survival is seeking peace. Look at how wise Israel’s leadership of the past was. If it wasn’t for Camp David Accords in 1978, Egyptians would’ve joined the offense with Gazans on 10/7. Instead, Egyptians, the mortal enemy of Israel 50 years ago, was the one warning Israel about 10/7. Think about that for a second. Peace DEALS work.

Netanyahu didn’t even want to try with Oslo and did everything he could to blow it up including ensuring PM Rabin was killed

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Anonymous wrote:Israel picks which Hamas leaders to assassinate- and its the ones that are willing to make peace with Israel. They have a very long history of such behavior.

Peace is a threat to Israel just as is the release of all hostages as it prevents Israel from further genocide and conquering of Gaza. Just a little critical thinking and observation makes this pretty obvious.

There are no Hamas members interested in peace with Israel. Hamas, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Jewish state and of the Jews as a people. Hamas "negotiators" are merely stalling for time to try to allow Hamas to reconstitute itself while they support the fiction and propaganda message that they are willing to negotiate. Their negotiating is merely the expression of extortionate demands which, if accepted, would ensure Hamas' survival.

There are no Zionists members interested in peace with Palestinians. Zionism, by definition, is dedicated to the elimination of the Palestinian state and the Palestinians as people from their land. Israeli "negotiations" are merely stalling for time to allow Israel to exterminate and ethnically cleanse Gaza and then the West bank while they support the fiction and propaganda that they are wanting to negotiate. Their negation is just a performance for the western world to pretend that they actually desire peace, when in reality there goal is to annex Gaza and the West Bank for the creation of a Jewish majority apartheid ethnostate.

Fixed it for you. Only clueless morons will subscribe and believe your Hasbara and Zioganda.

Cute but infantile reasoning, detached from history and reality. Not even a nice try, sorry.

Yup, next thing you'll claim that there is no genocide or ethnic cleansing in Gaza right?

DP. I thought it was a genocide? Now you're claiming its ethnic cleansing? Which is it? Btw, would a country that is engaging in either activity ship in food equaling 4,400 calories a day for every man, woman, and child in Gaza? Seems like a bad way to engage in such evil activity. Actually caring about the people in another country that you're allegedly trying to eliminate?

Oh right, there is no famine or or starvation in Gaza. It's all Hamas generated AI propaganda!

When HAMAS and its supporters declared they will wipe Israel from off the face of the Earth, they declared themselves above the law. Therefore, it is Open Season upon them, the right to kill every living member of HAMAS, their family members, and all who aid and abet HAMAS.

The killings will continue, whether by fire or famine, let the holy wrath of God come upon the heads of Israel’s enemies. Then there will be peace. See Gandalf’s response to Saruman at the fall of Orthanc for a similar situation.

You can’t kill an idea. Hamas is an idea not a person. Killing their families will only want them to kill Jews even more

Hamas is getting what they deserve after what they did on Oct 7th.