Anonymous
08/10/2025 11:29
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
Clubs aren't league based, they have multiple leagues they are in. And the bulk of leagues declared SY so with over 95 percent of teamscin a club SY even if they have a few top teams in MLSN, tournaments would be SY. The tournament issue is a non issue.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.
This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.
Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.
On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.
Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.
MLS teams play each other.
So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.
Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.
But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.
ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.
If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)
Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments
Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments
If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.
See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 11:28
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
So, everything would stay the same…. Do ECNL teams regularly play MLS/GA teams outside of Friendlies/Showcases? No.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 11:18
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
Anonymous wrote:Why is it everyone on here always says the clubs are only in it for the money, but then they close their eyes and make arguments like this. Of course tournaments will allow BY in SY tournaments and vice versa. Teams routinely play up a year or two in tournaments. You think BY/SY is going to be an impediment, or they will give up that glorious money???
Clubs generally wont go out of their way to play against older teams when rankings are on the line. Which is why I said if some were BY and others were SY that theyd just stop attending each others events.
They'd probably still do friendlies.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 11:08
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
Why is it everyone on here always says the clubs are only in it for the money, but then they close their eyes and make arguments like this. Of course tournaments will allow BY in SY tournaments and vice versa. Teams routinely play up a year or two in tournaments. You think BY/SY is going to be an impediment, or they will give up that glorious money???
Anonymous
08/10/2025 11:07
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.
This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.
Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.
On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.
Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.
MLS teams play each other.
So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.
Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.
But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.
ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.
If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)
Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments
Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments
If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.
See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.
I think both ECNL and MLSN clubs would seek competition opportunities for their players. These would be friendlies so I don't think there would be too much worry about a few players being a couple months older. There are two tourneys this fall that have both leagues: Copa Rayados and Best of the East.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 10:56
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
Anonymous wrote:MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.
This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.
Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.
On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.
Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.
MLS teams play each other.
So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.
Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.
But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.
ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.
If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)
Clubs that are SY based will have SY tournaments
Clubs that are BY based will have BY tournaments
If your team is BY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in SY tournaments. If your team is SY grouped they'll need to play teams 6 months older in BY tournaments.
See how it works? This is why the different leagues would just ignore each other.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 10:49
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
MLSN doesn't have open tournaments, clubs do. Clubs that are in multiple leagues that fund much of the club through tournament fees mostly at the younger ages. They will do what can to maximize revenue. Tournaments are a dead cat on the table issue, always brought up like there is some great impediment when there isn't.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.
This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.
Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.
On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.
Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.
MLS teams play each other.
So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.
Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.
But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.
ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.
If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)
Anonymous
08/10/2025 10:42
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.
This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.
Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.
On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.
Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.
MLS teams play each other.
So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.
Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.
But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.
ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.
If this is true (I dont think it is) it explains why the boys ECNL parent is posting about SY every 30 seconds in the other thread. If MLSN stays BY they won't participate in SY tournaments and with friendlies they'd likely force the ECNL team to play up. Basically ECNL would get locked out from playing against MLSN teams. (Acadamy and P2P)
Anonymous
08/10/2025 10:31
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
Anonymous wrote:The VDA 08/07 girls team has 29 players on it. How do you even do showcasing with that number of kids?
“Showcasing” is mostly over at u19. Usually uncommitted players get the priority at that age. Many of those players will probably go to college in January as well.
U19 is unique. DD’s ECNL team has 26.
Anonymous
08/10/2025 10:27
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
Anonymous wrote:MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.
This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.
Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.
On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.
Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.
MLS teams play each other.
So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.
Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.
But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.
ECNL clubs play MLSN P2P clubs several times a year through friendlies and tourneys. They also play the academies in friendlies. A good ECNL club will give you all the same opportunies for competition that MLSN would have.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 22:14
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
The VDA 08/07 girls team has 29 players on it. How do you even do showcasing with that number of kids?
Anonymous
08/09/2025 21:32
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
why wouldn’t they?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any chance skyline leaves ecnl and goes mlsn for the boys ?!
Any chance MLSNext wants Skyline is the real question. No.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 21:30
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
MLSN P2P teams only get a couple of games against MLSN academies a year.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.
This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.
Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.
On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.
Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.
MLS teams play each other.
So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.
Conflating MLSN academies with MLSN P2P is disengenuous. The academies operate differently and on a few levels above MLSN P2P of course.
But it seems you are drinking the MLSN marketing kool aid and something tells me that you would change your tune if you son got cut from MLSN P2P and you were more open minded.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 20:23
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.
This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.
Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.
On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.
Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.
50/50. Source: trust me, bro.
Anonymous
08/09/2025 20:23
Subject: which club will leave ECNL next
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a theory that its not multiple ECNL parents posting the crazy. Its likely just one poster and they're either on drugs or being paid by ECNL or US Club to post.
This used to work because there wasnt many places you chould get information about youth soccer. Now theres several and people are correctly calling out when statements are just not true.
Anyone pushing one league over the other has an agenda. There is no material difference in outcomes based on the league for boys. Girls might be a different story. Even then, club > league.
On average, MLSNext team pace of play is 20% faster. It just is.
Sigh- not this again. Let’s again differentiate between the Academies and Next. When going head to head ECNL and MLS Next are at 50/50 from U-15 up. So no the pace of play isn’t 20% faster/better etc. o ly when you get to the academies is that a believable fact.
MLS teams play each other.
So you can try to slice it up into better or worse but it doesn't matter because ECNL is not involved.