Anonymous
08/01/2025 13:19
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL announced they are getting into U littles
They ALREADY are. Pre-ECNL, anyone?
I understand why US Club goes along with ECNL wanting to switch from BY to SY. But why all the others? ECNL is just creeping into the littles. Stealing clubs from all the local leagues and player pipelines from USYS clubs. They're going to do the same thing with youngers that they've done with olders. All the random leagues are going to be locked out.
Its going to force GA and MLSN to creep down into the youngers as well to protect player pipelines
Fortunately this will make youth soccer expensive for everyone. Which sounds amazing. Can't wait.
The difference from USYS to pre-ECNL for u12g in my fairly wealthy suburb was a rounding error. The $$$ argument is a losing one since all sports are expensive now. Actually get more hours of training from ⚽ than all of the other local travel options.
The danger for pre-ECNL is a good chunk of those players end up either on the B team or leave the club because of all the recruiting that goes on. It's no guarantee ... In some ways, you might have to work even harder because some ECNL clubs hire former players with no experience to coach these teams, trying to skate on reputation. You gotta make sure they actually have good coaching and development. Not all do.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 13:13
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL announced they are getting into U littles
They ALREADY are. Pre-ECNL, anyone?
I understand why US Club goes along with ECNL wanting to switch from BY to SY. But why all the others? ECNL is just creeping into the littles. Stealing clubs from all the local leagues and player pipelines from USYS clubs. They're going to do the same thing with youngers that they've done with olders. All the random leagues are going to be locked out.
Its going to force GA and MLSN to creep down into the youngers as well to protect player pipelines
Fortunately this will make youth soccer expensive for everyone. Which sounds amazing. Can't wait.
The difference from USYS to pre-ECNL for u12g in my fairly wealthy suburb was a rounding error. The $$$ argument is a losing one since all sports are expensive now. Actually get more hours of training from ⚽ than all of the other local travel options.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 13:10
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL announced they are getting into U littles
They ALREADY are. Pre-ECNL, anyone?
I understand why US Club goes along with ECNL wanting to switch from BY to SY. But why all the others? ECNL is just creeping into the littles. Stealing clubs from all the local leagues and player pipelines from USYS clubs. They're going to do the same thing with youngers that they've done with olders. All the random leagues are going to be locked out.
Its going to force GA and MLSN to creep down into the youngers as well to protect player pipelines
Fortunately this will make youth soccer expensive for everyone. Which sounds amazing. Can't wait.
Actually, if they are doing this, it may eventually be where they bite off more than they can chew where they get bogged down like the USYS.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 13:05
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL announced they are getting into U littles
They ALREADY are. Pre-ECNL, anyone?
I understand why US Club goes along with ECNL wanting to switch from BY to SY. But why all the others? ECNL is just creeping into the littles. Stealing clubs from all the local leagues and player pipelines from USYS clubs. They're going to do the same thing with youngers that they've done with olders. All the random leagues are going to be locked out.
Its going to force GA and MLSN to creep down into the youngers as well to protect player pipelines
Fortunately this will make youth soccer expensive for everyone. Which sounds amazing. Can't wait.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 13:05
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Has there always been 5 game suspension for moving clubs? 25/26 rule book.
Player Transfers
Players may only play for one Club during an ECNL season unless the League Office grants a transfer. The Season is defined as the start of the fall season through the final ECNL weekend in the spring. If a transfer request is granted, a transferred Player must sit out five (5) ECNL games before being eligible to play for his/her new club. Any Player not sitting out will be considered an illegal Player. The League Office has the final say on all transfers.
This must be new - and wow what a penalty. We had a player who moved to our club and started right away. We only had 6 games left when they joined. Seems ridiculous when ECNL only has 14 league games a season in total. They need to get rid of this rule unless they schedule more games.
Who is transferring mid season to a competing club and expecting to play immediately? It seems reasonable if a family is completely relocating since there should be some downtime in between.
Midseason changes should be uncomfortable, especially in the same league.
You sign a contract and make a commitment, you stick out the year.
I assume GA and MLSNext nonAcademy teams have something similar. Obviously with Academy you should be able to be "called up" with no penalty.
Tryouts are when you change teams, poaching mid season is slimy and says more about the parents and poaching Club.
Good for ECNL.
Except many of the elite clubs recruit throughout the season outside the main league. If they can improve, they do, regardless of previous promises. It's ruthless, especially at some clubs. It's how some stay on top. You can get the trophies and college looks but you always gotta watch your back.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 13:03
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Has there always been 5 game suspension for moving clubs? 25/26 rule book.
Player Transfers
Players may only play for one Club during an ECNL season unless the League Office grants a transfer. The Season is defined as the start of the fall season through the final ECNL weekend in the spring. If a transfer request is granted, a transferred Player must sit out five (5) ECNL games before being eligible to play for his/her new club. Any Player not sitting out will be considered an illegal Player. The League Office has the final say on all transfers.
This must be new - and wow what a penalty. We had a player who moved to our club and started right away. We only had 6 games left when they joined. Seems ridiculous when ECNL only has 14 league games a season in total. They need to get rid of this rule unless they schedule more games.
Who is transferring mid season to a competing club and expecting to play immediately? It seems reasonable if a family is completely relocating since there should be some downtime in between.
Midseason changes should be uncomfortable, especially in the same league.
You sign a contract and make a commitment, you stick out the year.
I assume GA and MLSNext nonAcademy teams have something similar. Obviously with Academy you should be able to be "called up" with no penalty.
Tryouts are when you change teams, poaching mid season is slimy and says more about the parents and poaching Club.
Good for ECNL.
OP you are responding to and I fully agree
Anonymous
08/01/2025 13:00
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Has there always been 5 game suspension for moving clubs? 25/26 rule book.
Player Transfers
Players may only play for one Club during an ECNL season unless the League Office grants a transfer. The Season is defined as the start of the fall season through the final ECNL weekend in the spring. If a transfer request is granted, a transferred Player must sit out five (5) ECNL games before being eligible to play for his/her new club. Any Player not sitting out will be considered an illegal Player. The League Office has the final say on all transfers.
This must be new - and wow what a penalty. We had a player who moved to our club and started right away. We only had 6 games left when they joined. Seems ridiculous when ECNL only has 14 league games a season in total. They need to get rid of this rule unless they schedule more games.
Who is transferring mid season to a competing club and expecting to play immediately? It seems reasonable if a family is completely relocating since there should be some downtime in between.
Midseason changes should be uncomfortable, especially in the same league.
You sign a contract and make a commitment, you stick out the year.
I assume GA and MLSNext nonAcademy teams have something similar. Obviously with Academy you should be able to be "called up" with no penalty.
Tryouts are when you change teams, poaching mid season is slimy and says more about the parents and poaching Club.
Good for ECNL.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 13:00
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Has there always been 5 game suspension for moving clubs? 25/26 rule book.
Player Transfers
Players may only play for one Club during an ECNL season unless the League Office grants a transfer. The Season is defined as the start of the fall season through the final ECNL weekend in the spring. If a transfer request is granted, a transferred Player must sit out five (5) ECNL games before being eligible to play for his/her new club. Any Player not sitting out will be considered an illegal Player. The League Office has the final say on all transfers.
This must be new - and wow what a penalty. We had a player who moved to our club and started right away. We only had 6 games left when they joined. Seems ridiculous when ECNL only has 14 league games a season in total. They need to get rid of this rule unless they schedule more games.
Who is transferring mid season to a competing club and expecting to play immediately? It seems reasonable if a family is completely relocating since there should be some downtime in between.
Players leave all the time because in my area the ECNL clubs are used car salesman and make promises and don’t follow through.
One team lost 7 players mid season. You can blame the families or the clubs I always blame the clubs.
Sure, but it seems very reasonable that you can't just suit up for the club next door that weekend.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 12:57
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL announced they are getting into U littles
They ALREADY are. Pre-ECNL, anyone?
Yeah my daughter played in it all last year. Also regions like TX/OH have it in much younger ages.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 12:52
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:ECNL announced they are getting into U littles
They ALREADY are. Pre-ECNL, anyone?
Anonymous
08/01/2025 12:52
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:ECNL announced they are getting into U littles
Where's the annoucement?
Anonymous
08/01/2025 12:49
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
ECNL announced they are getting into U littles
Anonymous
08/01/2025 12:49
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Has there always been 5 game suspension for moving clubs? 25/26 rule book.
Player Transfers
Players may only play for one Club during an ECNL season unless the League Office grants a transfer. The Season is defined as the start of the fall season through the final ECNL weekend in the spring. If a transfer request is granted, a transferred Player must sit out five (5) ECNL games before being eligible to play for his/her new club. Any Player not sitting out will be considered an illegal Player. The League Office has the final say on all transfers.
This must be new - and wow what a penalty. We had a player who moved to our club and started right away. We only had 6 games left when they joined. Seems ridiculous when ECNL only has 14 league games a season in total. They need to get rid of this rule unless they schedule more games.
Who is transferring mid season to a competing club and expecting to play immediately? It seems reasonable if a family is completely relocating since there should be some downtime in between.
Players leave all the time because in my area the ECNL clubs are used car salesman and make promises and don’t follow through.
One team lost 7 players mid season. You can blame the families or the clubs I always blame the clubs.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 12:25
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Has there always been 5 game suspension for moving clubs? 25/26 rule book.
Player Transfers
Players may only play for one Club during an ECNL season unless the League Office grants a transfer. The Season is defined as the start of the fall season through the final ECNL weekend in the spring. If a transfer request is granted, a transferred Player must sit out five (5) ECNL games before being eligible to play for his/her new club. Any Player not sitting out will be considered an illegal Player. The League Office has the final say on all transfers.
This must be new - and wow what a penalty. We had a player who moved to our club and started right away. We only had 6 games left when they joined. Seems ridiculous when ECNL only has 14 league games a season in total. They need to get rid of this rule unless they schedule more games.
Who is transferring mid season to a competing club and expecting to play immediately? It seems reasonable if a family is completely relocating since there should be some downtime in between.
Anonymous
08/01/2025 12:25
Subject: ECNL moving to school year part 2
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If you have a player 9-11 but starter with a Q4 birthday, best advice is getting on grad year, right? Entering recruiting years in next 12-18 months.
Oct-Dec are Q4 currently.
Best advise would be to compete at the highest level where your kid showcases the best.
I would definitely not play up U16-19
It's going to be interesting to see if US Club / ECNL allow a limited number of Aug-Dec bdays to "play down" next spring in US Club competitions. Let's hope.
It cant happen in league, or playoffs because you'd have different teams half (depending where you live) of the season.
It could happen at showcases. But the problem with this is showcases are often bundled in with other events like playoffs, finals, etc. Which means the top teams wouldn't have as many opportunities to play new players down as everyone else because theyre still doing league games.
It's easier to not jump the gun.
True but it would be equal for all leagues at the same time. So it wouldn’t be an unfair advantage for any one team. They would have to limit the number of how many in my opinion.
But it is easier to not jump the gun.
Just gets tricks once tryout window opens and half your team quits before nationals.