Anonymous wrote:At this point, after all of the extreme weather events, all of the science, the research, the data, the models, the papers - if you are still denying climate change, you absolutely are deranged.

“Extreme weather events”……. going back as far as records starting being kept.

From Wikipedia:


1913
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In December of 1913 between 10 and 15 inches of rain fell in the greater area. 180 people died.[13] Torrential rains fell across Central Texas starting the morning of 5 December, swelling the Brazos River and causing it to shift course.[14] The Colorado River overflowed its banks and joined the Brazos. The Brazos River and Valley Improvement Association formed in 1915 to address flooding issues.[14] The first Lake Waco Dam was built in 1929.[14] The Trinity River also flooded.[15]
1921
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Main article: September 1921 San Antonio floods
In September of 1921, a Category 1 hurricane made landfall in Mexico and moved into Texas. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, from 8-10 September the San Antonio area received 7.38 inches of rain.[16] 215 people died. San Antonio developed flood control plans, including the Olmos Dam and River Walk.[13] Thrall received an estimated 40 inches of rain, Austin received 19, and San Antonio 15.[7] The Little and San Gabriel Rivers also flooded.[7]
1935
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Near Uvalde, 22 inches of rain fell in under three hours.[11]
1978
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In July 1978, tropical storm Amelia made landfall and moved inland, stalling over the headwaters of the Medina and Guadalupe Rivers. The Guadalupe crested at over 40 feet in Comfort.[11] Thirty-three people drowned in the flooding.[8][7]
1981
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Shoal Creek flooded 24 May when a slow-moving storm settled over Austin. Thirteen people died.[11]
1987
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On 17 July 1987, a sudden flash flood swept a bus full of children away at a low water crossing and killed ten near Comfort, Texas.[6][7] On the night of 16 July and into the morning of the 17th, slow-moving storms dropped between 5 and 10 inches of rain, triggering immense flooding along the Guadalupe through Ingram, Hunt, Kerrvile, and Comfort.[7] The Pot O' Gold camp was evacuating when a bus was swept away.[7]
In 1989, the story of the deaths and rescues was shown as the pilot episode of Rescue 911, and in 1993 was made into a television movie called The Flood: Who Will Save Our Children? The film followed the experiences of some of the children and their families, and starred Joe Spano as Reverend Richard Koons.
1998
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Main article: October 1998 Central Texas floods
The remnants of Hurricane Madeline and Hurricane Lester flooded the San Jacinto, San Benard, Colorado, Lavaca, Guadalupe, and San Antonio Rivers in October of 1998, killing 31.[17] The city of San Antonio experienced a 500-year flood.[13]
2002
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The Guadalupe River flooded in July 2002 after the area received over 19 inches (480 mm) of rain.[8] Some parts of the area received a year's precipitation over a few days.[13] 12 people died.[13]
2007
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Main article: June 2007 Texas flooding
In June, a slow-moving frontal system caused heavy rains. Marble Falls, one of the hardest hit areas, received 18 inches (460 mm) of rain in a period six hours. The headwaters of Lake Marble Falls and Lake Travis had 19 inches of rain totals recorded.[18] Two people died.[3]
2013
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May
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In May of 2013, the Olmos basin received over 17 inches of rain over the Memorial Day weekend, causing 2 deaths.[13]
October
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In October of 2013, in a 100-year flood, the Onion Creek rose to its highest levels since 1921, killing four.[12]
2015
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In a 100-year flood, the Blanco River rose 45 feet and caused 13 deaths and severe damage in Wimberley over Memorial Day Weekend.[1][12] The river had been at 5 feet at 9 pm on 24 May and by 1 am had reached 40 feet.[11] Wimberley installed a monitoring system to send out cellphone alerts.[6]
2018
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In a 100-year flood, the Llano River washed out the Kingsland Bridge.[12]
2025
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June
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In June 2025, flash flooding in San Antonio killed 13 people.[5][6][19] The area upstream had received over 7 inches of rain in three hours, which qualified as a 100-year event.[19] It was the city's highest daily rainfall in over a decade and the 10th highest ever recorded.[16]
On 12 June, heavy rain began around 2 am.[19] Within hours at least fifteen cars were swept off Loop 410 when Beitel Creek, which runs parallel to the road, flooded.[19] At least eleven people were killed in the Beitel Creek area, with two others killed in nearby areas.[19] According to the San Antonio River Authority, over 400 yards of the westbound access road lie within the 100-year-floodplain.[19]
July
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Main article: July 2025 Central Texas floods
In July 2025, torrential rain fell in a three hour period on 4 July from the remnants of Tropical Storm Barry, resulting in over 100 deaths, many of them children from the summer camps along the Guadalupe River.[20][10] Flood related deaths were reported in other nearby counties.[5]
At 4:00 a.m. the National Weather Service issued a particularly dangerous situation warning for communities along the Guadalupe.[9] In Hunt, Texas, where the two branches of the Guadalupe River meet, the river gauge recorded a 22 feet (6.7 m) rise in 2 hours before failing when it reached 29 feet (8.8 m).[21] Downstream in Kerrville, the river surged to 21 feet (6.4 m).[22] Further downstream, in Comfort, it surged to 29.86 feet (9.10 m).[22] The city of Kerrville issued a disaster declaration on 4 July following the floods.[23] In total, 5–11 inches (130–280 mm) of rain fell on some areas that experienced significant flood effects.[24]
Flooding continued into Saturday, 5 July[25] with two more flash flood emergencies being issued for areas around Lake Travis north of Austin.[26][27][28] Later, a third flash flood emergency was issued for central Comal County, noting that "local law enforcement reported flooding of the Guadalupe River".[29] 20.33 inches (516 mm) of rain fell northwest of Streeter.[30]



Extreme weather events like this have been happening for at least a century.

The Helene floods last year killed 250 mostly flash floods. NOAA did better this time.

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Anonymous wrote:Over 100 dead now and many still missing. This is the result of MAGA governance. When you keep cutting taxes, people die.


As Texas state leaders have prioritized spending on border security and property tax cuts, they have been far more reluctant to fund flood management efforts.

https://www.axios.com/local/austin/2025/07/07/texas-flood-kerr-county-warning-system

Yup, some serious incompetence/recklessness/stupidity from the Republican side contributing to the loss of lives in Texas.

Trump Looks to Avoid Casting Blame in Texas Flood as Democrats Question Cuts
The White House rebuked critics for raising questions about the administration’s efforts to shrink federal agencies that deal with disaster preparedness and response.

When a hurricane hit North Carolina last year, Donald J. Trump claimed without evidence that the Biden administration was avoiding helping residents in Republican areas. When wildfires burned through Los Angeles earlier this year, Mr. Trump excoriated local and state Democrats for the calamity, making false assertions about water use policy.

But after a catastrophic flood that tore through Texas last week, leaving at least 100 dead, Mr. Trump cautioned against casting blame.

“This is a hundred-year catastrophe, and it’s just so horrible to watch,” the president told reporters Sunday as he left his Bedminster golf course.

Pressed on whether the disaster was exacerbated by his administration’s push to shrink federal agencies, including the National Weather Service, he deflected.

This is the kind of disaster that you’d link with 3rd world countries. That a river flooding could kill 100 people in a first world country with rich resources is bewildering.

Not so bewildering

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A lot of this comes down to the entitled attitude of the Texas elite who can't imagine Mother Nature not bending to their will (see prosperity gospel, it's a mindset). As far as they're concerned, they're entitled to that lovely piece of real estate down by the river. In third world countries, most of the poor have no choice but to crowd onto a bad piece of land, so when there's a flood they're pretty much done for. Amazing that the Texas elite think they're entitled to vacation in such places, as if there's really nowhere else to go.

What are you even talking about? It is the people who owned the river houses and properties who were pushing for more warning systems. And affluent people all over the world have homes in flood prone areas. Please stop making things up out of hate.

Yep, and they want everyone coughing up money so they can live in dangerous spots. Because they’re entitled. They deserve a good view of the river, and apparently, so did their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs didn't care about NOAA or the NWS until this weekend.

Republicans take everything the government does for granted, and doesn't miss it until it's gone and too late.

This narrative you're trying to spin about NOAA/NWS is pure propaganda. There were no staffing issues and they sent out one alert after another. You people need to get a grip.

At 4:03 a.m., the office issued an urgent warning that raised the potential of catastrophic damage and a severe threat to human life.

Jonathan Porter, the chief meteorologist at AccuWeather, a private weather forecasting company that uses National Weather Service data, said it appeared evacuations and other proactive measures could have been undertaken to reduce the risk of fatalities.

“People, businesses, and governments should take action based on Flash Flood Warnings that are issued, regardless of the rainfall amounts that have occurred or are forecast,” Porter said in a statement.

It's no propaganda. Yes, NWS still did its job to the best of its ability but its an absolute fact that they and other agencies have lost significant staff, funding and other resources, which puts the nation at risk.

So now that it’s been demonstrably proved that the NWS did have a full staff on had, plus extra personnel, AND issued alerts (which it seems were largely ignored) prior to the flooding, so NOW the narrative is changing.


Now it’s “govt agencies have been reduced in size and budget and more things like this will happen because of that”….. Despite it being clear to everyone now that this flooding tragedy occurred with an over-staffed local NWS office that issued alerts well before the flooding started.


You people are sooooo invested in making this about Trump you’ll twist anything into all manner of narrative-pretzel if you think it sounds deceptive enough to be convincing.


You people are the opposite poll of Brietbart or other RW groups, and you’re every bit as lacking in credibility and integrity.

The issue was that the staff who was there didn't have the institutional knowledge and people at the county level didn't heed the warnings and take actions. If the one meteorologist who left for retirement hadn't, the right people at the county level would have been notified early enough to do something about it. That is still on DOGE.

That would be a COO failure. If what you say is true, no one in the government can ever take leave because the institutional knowledge of who to contact would be unavailable during their PTO. That's unacceptable.

DOGE got rid of the veteran metorologists. That part is squarely on Trump. The county officials didn't act, the state officials didn't act. I mean, Biden gave this county $5m to deal with the early warning system and they ended up spending it on something else.

They did? Was that part of the infrastructure funding? That’s nuts if true.

I read 2021 so if that’s correct it was part of the American Rescue Plan.

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Anonymous wrote:Natural disasters unfortunately happen. But, if we do everything we can and have the right people, process in place, we can say we did all we could.

But, if you gut the staff that deals with natural disaster warning systems, and then bad sh*% happens, people will question whether the cuts impacted the ability to plan and respond.

And what exactly did the cuts achieve overall? It really didn't make a dent in the debt, which the Rs just raised by a sh*% ton. All for the sake of cutting taxes mostly for the rich.

Meanwhile, almost 100 lives lost, and now people questioning whether these cuts made things worse.

Or was this just all God's will? I can't keep up with MAGA excuses.

You realize cuts had nothing to do with this disaster - right? NWS did its job and sent out flood warnings and evacuation notices all through the night. There was no cell service in this area.

Why can’t you people be honest, even just once? This had nothing to do with Trump or cuts at all. The NWS was fully staffed and operational.

They probably do, but will never ever admit it. They hate Trump more than they will acknowledge the truth.
Hell, even the AP acknowledges it. But, that won't prevent DCUM regulars from spreading lies.

Because DCUM liars would (literally) sacrifice their children to Moloch before they admitted their lies were lies.

They are absolutely irredeemable.

It's optics. DOGE gut the NWS and NOAA budgets; Trump/Rs cut taxes mostly for the rich.

Cuts to NOAA/NWS barely made a dent in the debt, but the tax cuts for the rich increased the debt by a ton.

-former R, now Independent.

I posted this in other thread:

From an Austin meteorologist this morning:

The flooding this weekend was so extreme that a number of the equipment sites that monitor river levels were damaged or destroyed. The USGS has been working to retrieve some of that lost data, and we have some final numbers regarding the historic crests on the Guadalupe, San Saba, and San Gabriel Rivers from the July 4th & 5th floods.

🔹Up to 22" of rain fell on part of the San Gabriel watershed. That sent the river to its 2nd HIGHEST crest on record, and about 6 feet higher than the 2007 flood in Georgetown

🔹10-20" on the San Saba watershed brought the San Saba River to its HIGHEST CREST on record in McCulloch County

🔹10-15" of rain July 4th morning west of Kerrville took the Guadalupe River up to 10ft at 3 AM, 29ft an hour and a half later (that's when the flood gauge was damaged), then finally to a crest of 37.36ft by 5:10 AM in Hunt, TX. That's the highest level that flood gauge has ever measured, and it's located near just downstream from Camp Mystic and the many other camps that sustained catastrophic damage.

🔹That wall of water quickly moved into Kerrville with devastating consequences from there and further downstream towards Comfort, TX. The Kerrville flood gauge topped out at its 3rd highest crest on record.

Closer to Austin, two flood gauges operated by the LCRA were washed away in the catastrophic Saturday morning floods. One on Big Sandy Creek was destroyed after sending its last reading of 21ft. Another on Hamilton Creek in Burnet county was destroyed after topping 26ft. We may never know the true heights of those creeks which tore through so many homes, businesses, and lives this weekend.
As of this writing, the 13 fatalities reported in Travis, Burnet, and Williamson counties is the same number of deaths from the 2015 Memorial Day weekend floods along the Blanco River in Wimberley. With many still reported missing, the grim reality is that the death toll will likely climb higher.
The fact that this flood will likely eclipse the 2015 Wimberley flood is unbelievable. I thought I would never see anything like that again in my life. What's worrisome is that the state and national attention has been heavily concentrated on Kerr County. Obviously, they need all of the assistance that they can possibly get, but I hope state and national leaders will also recognize the critical need for equipment, manpower, and supplies in the disaster zones of Travis, Williamson, and Burnet counties in the coming days. So many people need so, so much help.

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This was 4th of July weekend and a weekend between some camp sessions with families staying for a vacation. This was the peak time of year for people camping along the beautiful Guadalupe and for those to be at their river homes and at summer camps. I do not dispute that a flash flood siren system could have helped, even moreso for those NOT associated with the summer camps with no organized communication or evacuation to higher ground system. I am sharing some photos for context. It is one of the most beautiful places in the state.

Tone deaf of you to say a flash flood siren system “could’ve helped, even more so, for those NOT associated with the summer camps.” The camps DID NOT HAVE A FLASH FLOOD SIREN SYSTEM!

If that’s one of the most beautiful places in the state of Texas, sucks for y’all. Are you a travel agent?

It is not tone deaf. The camps were evacuating to higher ground because they had warnings. The campers and the people in homes along the river had no organized system of warning at all. There is little to no phone reception in many of those areas. Therefore, a siren warning system would help them all especially those with no organized system. However, the siren system is only as good as the data and the staff.

This was 4th of July weekend and a weekend between some camp sessions with families staying for a vacation. This was the peak time of year for people camping along the beautiful Guadalupe and for those to be at their river homes and at summer camps. I do not dispute that a flash flood siren system could have helped, even moreso for those NOT associated with the summer camps with no organized communication or evacuation to higher ground system. I am sharing some photos for context. It is one of the most beautiful places in the state.

Tone deaf of you to say a flash flood siren system “could’ve helped, even more so, for those NOT associated with the summer camps.” The camps DID NOT HAVE A FLASH FLOOD SIREN SYSTEM!

If that’s one of the most beautiful places in the state of Texas, sucks for y’all. Are you a travel agent?

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Anonymous wrote:Over 100 dead now and many still missing. This is the result of MAGA governance. When you keep cutting taxes, people die.


As Texas state leaders have prioritized spending on border security and property tax cuts, they have been far more reluctant to fund flood management efforts.

https://www.axios.com/local/austin/2025/07/07/texas-flood-kerr-county-warning-system

Yup, some serious incompetence/recklessness/stupidity from the Republican side contributing to the loss of lives in Texas.

Trump Looks to Avoid Casting Blame in Texas Flood as Democrats Question Cuts
The White House rebuked critics for raising questions about the administration’s efforts to shrink federal agencies that deal with disaster preparedness and response.

When a hurricane hit North Carolina last year, Donald J. Trump claimed without evidence that the Biden administration was avoiding helping residents in Republican areas. When wildfires burned through Los Angeles earlier this year, Mr. Trump excoriated local and state Democrats for the calamity, making false assertions about water use policy.

But after a catastrophic flood that tore through Texas last week, leaving at least 100 dead, Mr. Trump cautioned against casting blame.

“This is a hundred-year catastrophe, and it’s just so horrible to watch,” the president told reporters Sunday as he left his Bedminster golf course.

Pressed on whether the disaster was exacerbated by his administration’s push to shrink federal agencies, including the National Weather Service, he deflected.

This is the kind of disaster that you’d link with 3rd world countries. That a river flooding could kill 100 people in a first world country with rich resources is bewildering.

Not so bewildering

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A lot of this comes down to the entitled attitude of the Texas elite who can't imagine Mother Nature not bending to their will (see prosperity gospel, it's a mindset). As far as they're concerned, they're entitled to that lovely piece of real estate down by the river. In third world countries, most of the poor have no choice but to crowd onto a bad piece of land, so when there's a flood they're pretty much done for. Amazing that the Texas elite think they're entitled to vacation in such places, as if there's really nowhere else to go.

What are you even talking about? It is the people who owned the river houses and properties who were pushing for more warning systems. And affluent people all over the world have homes in flood prone areas. Please stop making things up out of hate.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Over 100 dead now and many still missing. This is the result of MAGA governance. When you keep cutting taxes, people die.


As Texas state leaders have prioritized spending on border security and property tax cuts, they have been far more reluctant to fund flood management efforts.

https://www.axios.com/local/austin/2025/07/07/texas-flood-kerr-county-warning-system

Yup, some serious incompetence/recklessness/stupidity from the Republican side contributing to the loss of lives in Texas.

Trump Looks to Avoid Casting Blame in Texas Flood as Democrats Question Cuts
The White House rebuked critics for raising questions about the administration’s efforts to shrink federal agencies that deal with disaster preparedness and response.

When a hurricane hit North Carolina last year, Donald J. Trump claimed without evidence that the Biden administration was avoiding helping residents in Republican areas. When wildfires burned through Los Angeles earlier this year, Mr. Trump excoriated local and state Democrats for the calamity, making false assertions about water use policy.

But after a catastrophic flood that tore through Texas last week, leaving at least 100 dead, Mr. Trump cautioned against casting blame.

“This is a hundred-year catastrophe, and it’s just so horrible to watch,” the president told reporters Sunday as he left his Bedminster golf course.

Pressed on whether the disaster was exacerbated by his administration’s push to shrink federal agencies, including the National Weather Service, he deflected.

This is the kind of disaster that you’d link with 3rd world countries. That a river flooding could kill 100 people in a first world country with rich resources is bewildering.

Not so bewildering

+1
A lot of this comes down to the entitled attitude of the Texas elite who can't imagine Mother Nature not bending to their will (see prosperity gospel, it's a mindset). As far as they're concerned, they're entitled to that lovely piece of real estate down by the river. In third world countries, most of the poor have no choice but to crowd onto a bad piece of land, so when there's a flood they're pretty much done for. Amazing that the Texas elite think they're entitled to vacation in such places, as if there's really nowhere else to go.

It’s incredibly narcissistic, hubristic and arrogant to believe that your “faith” (being man made belief in an imaginary supernatural being) or your ideology (e.g. states rights and conservative beliefs about taxation, spending and the role of government) can somehow supersede and take precedence over the laws of physics. Storms don’t care what your ideology is or who you worship. Storms and flooding rivers don’t honor party lines or state lines. And no amount of denial or spin can change any of that. The only thing you can do is DEAL with it, meaning investing in forecasting, modeling, warning and prevention, it means sound land use policies, it means trying to mitigate climate change, it means being rational and responsible. Republican policies have been the exact opposite of this.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Over 100 dead now and many still missing. This is the result of MAGA governance. When you keep cutting taxes, people die.


As Texas state leaders have prioritized spending on border security and property tax cuts, they have been far more reluctant to fund flood management efforts.

https://www.axios.com/local/austin/2025/07/07/texas-flood-kerr-county-warning-system

Yup, some serious incompetence/recklessness/stupidity from the Republican side contributing to the loss of lives in Texas.

Trump Looks to Avoid Casting Blame in Texas Flood as Democrats Question Cuts
The White House rebuked critics for raising questions about the administration’s efforts to shrink federal agencies that deal with disaster preparedness and response.

When a hurricane hit North Carolina last year, Donald J. Trump claimed without evidence that the Biden administration was avoiding helping residents in Republican areas. When wildfires burned through Los Angeles earlier this year, Mr. Trump excoriated local and state Democrats for the calamity, making false assertions about water use policy.

But after a catastrophic flood that tore through Texas last week, leaving at least 100 dead, Mr. Trump cautioned against casting blame.

“This is a hundred-year catastrophe, and it’s just so horrible to watch,” the president told reporters Sunday as he left his Bedminster golf course.

Pressed on whether the disaster was exacerbated by his administration’s push to shrink federal agencies, including the National Weather Service, he deflected.

This is the kind of disaster that you’d link with 3rd world countries. That a river flooding could kill 100 people in a first world country with rich resources is bewildering.

Not so bewildering

+1
A lot of this comes down to the entitled attitude of the Texas elite who can't imagine Mother Nature not bending to their will (see prosperity gospel, it's a mindset). As far as they're concerned, they're entitled to that lovely piece of real estate down by the river. In third world countries, most of the poor have no choice but to crowd onto a bad piece of land, so when there's a flood they're pretty much done for. Amazing that the Texas elite think they're entitled to vacation in such places, as if there's really nowhere else to go.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Over 100 dead now and many still missing. This is the result of MAGA governance. When you keep cutting taxes, people die.


As Texas state leaders have prioritized spending on border security and property tax cuts, they have been far more reluctant to fund flood management efforts.

https://www.axios.com/local/austin/2025/07/07/texas-flood-kerr-county-warning-system

Yup, some serious incompetence/recklessness/stupidity from the Republican side contributing to the loss of lives in Texas.

Trump Looks to Avoid Casting Blame in Texas Flood as Democrats Question Cuts
The White House rebuked critics for raising questions about the administration’s efforts to shrink federal agencies that deal with disaster preparedness and response.

When a hurricane hit North Carolina last year, Donald J. Trump claimed without evidence that the Biden administration was avoiding helping residents in Republican areas. When wildfires burned through Los Angeles earlier this year, Mr. Trump excoriated local and state Democrats for the calamity, making false assertions about water use policy.

But after a catastrophic flood that tore through Texas last week, leaving at least 100 dead, Mr. Trump cautioned against casting blame.

“This is a hundred-year catastrophe, and it’s just so horrible to watch,” the president told reporters Sunday as he left his Bedminster golf course.

Pressed on whether the disaster was exacerbated by his administration’s push to shrink federal agencies, including the National Weather Service, he deflected.

This is the kind of disaster that you’d link with 3rd world countries. That a river flooding could kill 100 people in a first world country with rich resources is bewildering.

This was 4th of July weekend and a weekend between some camp sessions with families staying for a vacation. This was the peak time of year for people camping along the beautiful Guadalupe and for those to be at their river homes and at summer camps. I do not dispute that a flash flood siren system could have helped, even moreso for those NOT associated with the summer camps with no organized communication or evacuation to higher ground system. I am sharing some photos for context. It is one of the most beautiful places in the state.

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Anonymous wrote:MAGAs didn't care about NOAA or the NWS until this weekend.

Republicans take everything the government does for granted, and doesn't miss it until it's gone and too late.

This narrative you're trying to spin about NOAA/NWS is pure propaganda. There were no staffing issues and they sent out one alert after another. You people need to get a grip.

At 4:03 a.m., the office issued an urgent warning that raised the potential of catastrophic damage and a severe threat to human life.

Jonathan Porter, the chief meteorologist at AccuWeather, a private weather forecasting company that uses National Weather Service data, said it appeared evacuations and other proactive measures could have been undertaken to reduce the risk of fatalities.

“People, businesses, and governments should take action based on Flash Flood Warnings that are issued, regardless of the rainfall amounts that have occurred or are forecast,” Porter said in a statement.

It's no propaganda. Yes, NWS still did its job to the best of its ability but its an absolute fact that they and other agencies have lost significant staff, funding and other resources, which puts the nation at risk.

So now that it’s been demonstrably proved that the NWS did have a full staff on had, plus extra personnel, AND issued alerts (which it seems were largely ignored) prior to the flooding, so NOW the narrative is changing.


Now it’s “govt agencies have been reduced in size and budget and more things like this will happen because of that”….. Despite it being clear to everyone now that this flooding tragedy occurred with an over-staffed local NWS office that issued alerts well before the flooding started.


You people are sooooo invested in making this about Trump you’ll twist anything into all manner of narrative-pretzel if you think it sounds deceptive enough to be convincing.


You people are the opposite poll of Brietbart or other RW groups, and you’re every bit as lacking in credibility and integrity.

The issue was that the staff who was there didn't have the institutional knowledge and people at the county level didn't heed the warnings and take actions. If the one meteorologist who left for retirement hadn't, the right people at the county level would have been notified early enough to do something about it. That is still on DOGE.

That would be a COO failure. If what you say is true, no one in the government can ever take leave because the institutional knowledge of who to contact would be unavailable during their PTO. That's unacceptable.

DOGE got rid of the veteran metorologists. That part is squarely on Trump. The county officials didn't act, the state officials didn't act. I mean, Biden gave this county $5m to deal with the early warning system and they ended up spending it on something else.

They did? Was that part of the infrastructure funding? That’s nuts if true.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGAs didn't care about NOAA or the NWS until this weekend.

Republicans take everything the government does for granted, and doesn't miss it until it's gone and too late.

This narrative you're trying to spin about NOAA/NWS is pure propaganda. There were no staffing issues and they sent out one alert after another. You people need to get a grip.

At 4:03 a.m., the office issued an urgent warning that raised the potential of catastrophic damage and a severe threat to human life.

Jonathan Porter, the chief meteorologist at AccuWeather, a private weather forecasting company that uses National Weather Service data, said it appeared evacuations and other proactive measures could have been undertaken to reduce the risk of fatalities.

“People, businesses, and governments should take action based on Flash Flood Warnings that are issued, regardless of the rainfall amounts that have occurred or are forecast,” Porter said in a statement.

It's no propaganda. Yes, NWS still did its job to the best of its ability but its an absolute fact that they and other agencies have lost significant staff, funding and other resources, which puts the nation at risk.

So now that it’s been demonstrably proved that the NWS did have a full staff on had, plus extra personnel, AND issued alerts (which it seems were largely ignored) prior to the flooding, so NOW the narrative is changing.


Now it’s “govt agencies have been reduced in size and budget and more things like this will happen because of that”….. Despite it being clear to everyone now that this flooding tragedy occurred with an over-staffed local NWS office that issued alerts well before the flooding started.


You people are sooooo invested in making this about Trump you’ll twist anything into all manner of narrative-pretzel if you think it sounds deceptive enough to be convincing.


You people are the opposite poll of Brietbart or other RW groups, and you’re every bit as lacking in credibility and integrity.

The issue was that the staff who was there didn't have the institutional knowledge and people at the county level didn't heed the warnings and take actions. If the one meteorologist who left for retirement hadn't, the right people at the county level would have been notified early enough to do something about it. That is still on DOGE.

That would be a COO failure. If what you say is true, no one in the government can ever take leave because the institutional knowledge of who to contact would be unavailable during their PTO. That's unacceptable.

DOGE got rid of the veteran metorologists. That part is squarely on Trump. The county officials didn't act, the state officials didn't act. I mean, Biden gave this county $5m to deal with the early warning system and they ended up spending it on something else.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Over 100 dead now and many still missing. This is the result of MAGA governance. When you keep cutting taxes, people die.


As Texas state leaders have prioritized spending on border security and property tax cuts, they have been far more reluctant to fund flood management efforts.

https://www.axios.com/local/austin/2025/07/07/texas-flood-kerr-county-warning-system

Yup, some serious incompetence/recklessness/stupidity from the Republican side contributing to the loss of lives in Texas.

Trump Looks to Avoid Casting Blame in Texas Flood as Democrats Question Cuts
The White House rebuked critics for raising questions about the administration’s efforts to shrink federal agencies that deal with disaster preparedness and response.

When a hurricane hit North Carolina last year, Donald J. Trump claimed without evidence that the Biden administration was avoiding helping residents in Republican areas. When wildfires burned through Los Angeles earlier this year, Mr. Trump excoriated local and state Democrats for the calamity, making false assertions about water use policy.

But after a catastrophic flood that tore through Texas last week, leaving at least 100 dead, Mr. Trump cautioned against casting blame.

“This is a hundred-year catastrophe, and it’s just so horrible to watch,” the president told reporters Sunday as he left his Bedminster golf course.

Pressed on whether the disaster was exacerbated by his administration’s push to shrink federal agencies, including the National Weather Service, he deflected.

This is the kind of disaster that you’d link with 3rd world countries. That a river flooding could kill 100 people in a first world country with rich resources is bewildering.

Not so bewildering