Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 08:52     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard from multiple people, that this kid was great influence on the community, and was not a speeder on the road he abided all the rules, there’s reason it’s called an accident and he’s not getting charged with attempted murder because what happened was not his fault. Some of you people need to take a better look at things then assume solely of the model of the car.


And yet the police estimate his speed at twice the limit....
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 07:31     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:which high school were they from? Incredibly sad

They were from South County High School


This must be incredibly sad for the SCHS community! It’s sad for the whole FCPS community too.

But hopefully its a “teachable moment” for teens and their parents to reflect on unsafe driving and inappropriately fast cars.
Anonymous
Post 05/08/2025 06:24     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

I don’t know anyone involved but asked that this thread be deleted. You are discussing the medical history of a minor, that you heard based upon rumors.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2025 20:43     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard from multiple people, that this kid was great influence on the community, and was not a speeder on the road he abided all the rules, there’s reason it’s called an accident and he’s not getting charged with attempted murder because what happened was not his fault. Some of you people need to take a better look at things then assume solely of the model of the car.


Well it appears that speeding was the cause of the accident- maybe we don’t know that yet? And he violated the rules by driving too many friends in his car.

And every single one of us with a teen, I guarantee they have done something equally stupid at least one time, and most have the good luck not to have such a terrible consequence. People like to get really judgy around this stuff because it makes them think nothing bad will happen to them or to their kid because they control the situation. We have made a societal decision to let kids drive at an age when maybe they shouldn't, and with very lax enforcement of the rules that are supposed to make it safer. Maybe we should be thinking not that this is a terrible kid or family, but how our societal choice might not be correct.


Then why is it almost always the boys? Do better parents.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2025 19:10     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of the graduated licensing elements are based upon scientific evidence.

This shows how they could be strengthened (ie, how many lives would be saved if they were).

https://www.iihs.org/topics/teenagers/gdl-calculator

Case in point: having kids with provisional licenses stop driving by 8 instead of midnight.
Remember —you can hold your kids to the rules that SHOULD be in place (such as delaying driving).

Europeans do not let 14 and 15 year olds drive—it is not safe. Most wait until 18. US Parents need to step up a little longer, to keep their kids alive.


My recently turned 17-year old son we have delayed. He isn’t driving yet. Older brother we really didn’t let drive much alone until Senior year and he is very cautious, responsible and had been driving with us in the car since sophomore year. I always thought 16 was too young for boys, even responsible ones.


Very wise of you.

It is not easy. I made my daughter wait until 17 before even starting to learn. I tried to get other parents to go along with this safer timeline.

People, what could possibly matter more? It is the leading cause of death for young people.



I wanted my kids to have as much experience with me and with familiar roads before they went to college.


That may seem intuitive…but it is based upon emotion, not data.

I sent my kid to a school where a car was not needed.

It is called reducing exposure (to the hazard).


When are they gonna learn to drive and who’s gonna teach them. Also you are now sure that they are always the passenger. I wanted my kids driving a car that I knew was safe and was driven by someone who was taught properly.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2025 18:58     Subject: Re:High school students crash near the Pentagon

The drivers usually survive. So the parenting fail is when your kid gets in their car.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2025 18:55     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard from multiple people, that this kid was great influence on the community, and was not a speeder on the road he abided all the rules, there’s reason it’s called an accident and he’s not getting charged with attempted murder because what happened was not his fault. Some of you people need to take a better look at things then assume solely of the model of the car.


Well it appears that speeding was the cause of the accident- maybe we don’t know that yet? And he violated the rules by driving too many friends in his car.

And every single one of us with a teen, I guarantee they have done something equally stupid at least one time, and most have the good luck not to have such a terrible consequence. People like to get really judgy around this stuff because it makes them think nothing bad will happen to them or to their kid because they control the situation. We have made a societal decision to let kids drive at an age when maybe they shouldn't, and with very lax enforcement of the rules that are supposed to make it safer. Maybe we should be thinking not that this is a terrible kid or family, but how our societal choice might not be correct.


He might not have crashed his car if he had pulled over after the accident. Instead he sped off if the closest exit and lost control. Hit and run. I’d like to think my kid wouldn’t compound the issue by trying to beat a reckless driving drive by committing a hit and run.

That’s the character part and the most most disturbing. Driving a fancy car too fast, says I’m an invincible idiot, but hit and run… I’m a dark criminal.

Parents know when their kids have a lack of character and judgment or just haven’t reached a level of maturity to develop the character, honor and integrity to own up to mistakes and not compound them. Why you’d buy a kid like that an expensive high performance car I’ll never understand.

That kid shouldn’t have been allowed to get a license. Let alone be alone in car. Things of this magnitude, hit and run, don’t happen in a vacuum.


What? Where did you hear it was a hit and run?
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2025 18:50     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard from multiple people, that this kid was great influence on the community, and was not a speeder on the road he abided all the rules, there’s reason it’s called an accident and he’s not getting charged with attempted murder because what happened was not his fault. Some of you people need to take a better look at things then assume solely of the model of the car.


Well it appears that speeding was the cause of the accident- maybe we don’t know that yet? And he violated the rules by driving too many friends in his car.

And every single one of us with a teen, I guarantee they have done something equally stupid at least one time, and most have the good luck not to have such a terrible consequence. People like to get really judgy around this stuff because it makes them think nothing bad will happen to them or to their kid because they control the situation. We have made a societal decision to let kids drive at an age when maybe they shouldn't, and with very lax enforcement of the rules that are supposed to make it safer. Maybe we should be thinking not that this is a terrible kid or family, but how our societal choice might not be correct.


He might not have crashed his car if he had pulled over after the accident. Instead he sped off if the closest exit and lost control. Hit and run. I’d like to think my kid wouldn’t compound the issue by trying to beat a reckless driving drive by committing a hit and run.

That’s the character part and the most most disturbing. Driving a fancy car too fast, says I’m an invincible idiot, but hit and run… I’m a dark criminal.

Parents know when their kids have a lack of character and judgment or just haven’t reached a level of maturity to develop the character, honor and integrity to own up to mistakes and not compound them. Why you’d buy a kid like that an expensive high performance car I’ll never understand.

That kid shouldn’t have been allowed to get a license. Let alone be alone in car. Things of this magnitude, hit and run, don’t happen in a vacuum.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2025 17:54     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard from multiple people, that this kid was great influence on the community, and was not a speeder on the road he abided all the rules, there’s reason it’s called an accident and he’s not getting charged with attempted murder because what happened was not his fault. Some of you people need to take a better look at things then assume solely of the model of the car.


Well it appears that speeding was the cause of the accident- maybe we don’t know that yet? And he violated the rules by driving too many friends in his car.

And every single one of us with a teen, I guarantee they have done something equally stupid at least one time, and most have the good luck not to have such a terrible consequence. People like to get really judgy around this stuff because it makes them think nothing bad will happen to them or to their kid because they control the situation. We have made a societal decision to let kids drive at an age when maybe they shouldn't, and with very lax enforcement of the rules that are supposed to make it safer. Maybe we should be thinking not that this is a terrible kid or family, but how our societal choice might not be correct.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2025 15:19     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:I’ve heard from multiple people, that this kid was great influence on the community, and was not a speeder on the road he abided all the rules, there’s reason it’s called an accident and he’s not getting charged with attempted murder because what happened was not his fault. Some of you people need to take a better look at things then assume solely of the model of the car.


Well it appears that speeding was the cause of the accident- maybe we don’t know that yet? And he violated the rules by driving too many friends in his car.
Anonymous
Post 05/07/2025 13:21     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

I’ve heard from multiple people, that this kid was great influence on the community, and was not a speeder on the road he abided all the rules, there’s reason it’s called an accident and he’s not getting charged with attempted murder because what happened was not his fault. Some of you people need to take a better look at things then assume solely of the model of the car.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 23:16     Subject: Re:High school students crash near the Pentagon

He wasn’t EVER known to be a fast driver, he never sped. He made a mistake. They were all brothers. He loved them. Don’t you dare paint a false narrative/picture of the kid driving. You do not know what you’re talking about, it’s better to not speak on a situation you don’t know about.. thanks.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 17:12     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:which high school were they from? Incredibly sad

They were from South County High School
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 16:19     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If driver is a minor, can the parents be charged for allowing their kid to drive more people than allowed by state law?


If the driver has had a license for over a year they can have three passengers.


Only for school related events. Here’s the language from the DMV website:

Restrictions on the Number of Passengers
If you are under age 18, you may carry only one passenger under age 21, unless accompanied by a licensed parent, or other adult acting in place of a parent, in the front passenger seat. However, after you have held your license for one year, you may carry up to three passengers under age 21 in the following situations:

Travel to and from a school-sponsored activity;
A licensed driver 21 or older is in the front passenger seat; or
In case of an emergency.
Learner's permit holders may not carry more than one passenger under age 18.

(Passenger restrictions do not apply to family members)

Violations of either the curfew or passenger restrictions can result in the suspension of your driver's license.
Anonymous
Post 05/06/2025 16:02     Subject: High school students crash near the Pentagon

Anonymous wrote:If driver is a minor, can the parents be charged for allowing their kid to drive more people than allowed by state law?


If the driver has had a license for over a year they can have three passengers.