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Anonymous wrote:How come people keep mentioning that u9-u12 will be definitely going SY? Did we miss something? What if the club they play for is in MLSN or MLSII? Wouldnt they stay BY even at the young ages?

U12 and below ages will be SY: AYSO, USCS NPL, USYS, pre-ECNL ...

So there will be a GAP from U12 (SY) -> U13 (BY) for clubs that play MLSN, either 1 or 2.

Not only that, many clubs would have 1st team MLSN (BY), but second and third teams NPL, ECNL-R (SY). That's pretty difficult to organize.

Those are the two main reasons because I believe MLSN finally will move to SY.

What is the benefit for those p2p MLSN clubs to stay in BY? I can not think of one.

What is the benefit for those p2p MLSN clubs to switch to SY? Many.

Those club owners are businessmen first. You can mostly guess what they will do in the next 2 months.

I'm not an expert and just speculating. I also really have no preference on SY vs BY (I see benefits for my kids either way). But here's a counter argument (not aiming to argue tho).

One possible reason from the for-profit, businessman perspective is this: growth.

I've heard arguments on this forum that MLS Next will be forced to align with SY or it'll be a mess. It's a valid take, but I can also see the other side from a competitive advantage biz perspective... MLS Next is the top level for youth in the US. They have the upper hand. If they're looking to grow their numbers of MLS Next teams, I could also see the argument to align with birth year to push out ECNL teams. I.e. if your club wants to be elevated to MLS Next, align with birth year and exit the ECNL. In other words, clubs with both MLS Next and US youth soccer affiliated ECNL and RL teams will be incentivized to pick whether they want to be MLS Next affiliated or ECNL, and logically will want to have one age structure for all levels of their club. I'm guessing they'd want to align with MLS Next and BY to recruit the top talent and grow in quality and revenue, as MLS Next is the top league. This would also eventually lead to teams ditching ECNL for MLS Next.

I could be full of crap but just speculating on a cutthroat revenue and growth-driven strategy. No idea if MLS Next execs are thinking this way tho.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people keep mentioning that u9-u12 will be definitely going SY? Did we miss something? What if the club they play for is in MLSN or MLSII? Wouldnt they stay BY even at the young ages?

U12 and below ages will be SY: AYSO, USCS NPL, USYS, pre-ECNL ...

So there will be a GAP from U12 (SY) -> U13 (BY) for clubs that play MLSN, either 1 or 2.

Not only that, many clubs would have 1st team MLSN (BY), but second and third teams NPL, ECNL-R (SY). That's pretty difficult to organize.

Those are the two main reasons because I believe MLSN finally will move to SY.

What is the benefit for those p2p MLSN clubs to stay in BY? I can not think of one.

What is the benefit for those p2p MLSN clubs to switch to SY? Many.

Those club owners are businessmen first. You can mostly guess what they will do in the next 2 months.

100% agree.

Pay-To-Play MLSN clubs will pressure MLSN to switch SY.

Mainly those ones that have recently joined MLSN2.

Otherwise, if MLSN decides to remain BY, I think those clubs will slowly leave MLSN2 to join (or rejoin) ECNL/ECNL-R.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people keep mentioning that u9-u12 will be definitely going SY? Did we miss something? What if the club they play for is in MLSN or MLSII? Wouldnt they stay BY even at the young ages?

U12 and below ages will be SY: AYSO, USCS NPL, USYS, pre-ECNL ...

So there will be a GAP from U12 (SY) -> U13 (BY) for clubs that play MLSN, either 1 or 2.

Not only that, many clubs would have 1st team MLSN (BY), but second and third teams NPL, ECNL-R (SY). That's pretty difficult to organize.

Those are the two main reasons because I believe MLSN finally will move to SY.

What is the benefit for those p2p MLSN clubs to stay in BY? I can not think of one.

What is the benefit for those p2p MLSN clubs to switch to SY? Many.

Those club owners are businessmen first. You can mostly guess what they will do in the next 2 months.

Anonymous wrote:How come people keep mentioning that u9-u12 will be definitely going SY? Did we miss something? What if the club they play for is in MLSN or MLSII? Wouldnt they stay BY even at the young ages?

U12 and below ages will be SY: AYSO, USCS NPL, USYS, pre-ECNL ...

So there will be a GAP from U12 (SY) -> U13 (BY) for clubs that play MLSN, either 1 or 2.

Not only that, many clubs would have 1st team MLSN (BY), but second and third teams NPL, ECNL-R (SY). That's pretty difficult to organize.

Those are the two main reasons because I believe MLSN finally will move to SY.

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Anonymous wrote:How come people keep mentioning that u9-u12 will be definitely going SY? Did we miss something? What if the club they play for is in MLSN or MLSII? Wouldnt they stay BY even at the young ages?

Possibly, but it would take building a platform that currently doesn't exist, but I have heard rumors of a pre-MLSN. Either way they will still be faced with the transition from SY to BY, because that is where most kids start, whether its US Club, AYSO, or USYS.

So NCSL for example, what governing body are they under? New to all of this so forgive me if it’s a dumb question

They are USYS, there are no dumb questions....unless you are a troll lol

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Anonymous wrote:How come people keep mentioning that u9-u12 will be definitely going SY? Did we miss something? What if the club they play for is in MLSN or MLSII? Wouldnt they stay BY even at the young ages?

Possibly, but it would take building a platform that currently doesn't exist, but I have heard rumors of a pre-MLSN. Either way they will still be faced with the transition from SY to BY, because that is where most kids start, whether its US Club, AYSO, or USYS.

So NCSL for example, what governing body are they under? New to all of this so forgive me if it’s a dumb question

Anonymous wrote:How come people keep mentioning that u9-u12 will be definitely going SY? Did we miss something? What if the club they play for is in MLSN or MLSII? Wouldnt they stay BY even at the young ages?

Possibly, but it would take building a platform that currently doesn't exist, but I have heard rumors of a pre-MLSN. Either way they will still be faced with the transition from SY to BY, because that is where most kids start, whether its US Club, AYSO, or USYS.

Anonymous wrote:How come people keep mentioning that u9-u12 will be definitely going SY? Did we miss something? What if the club they play for is in MLSN or MLSII? Wouldnt they stay BY even at the young ages?

What league would they play in???

How come people keep mentioning that u9-u12 will be definitely going SY? Did we miss something? What if the club they play for is in MLSN or MLSII? Wouldnt they stay BY even at the young ages?

Thats what will happen. Sep 1st.

Anonymous wrote:Don’t worry GA/Aspire will be BY with biobanding for league and showcases.

Which is arguably worse then SY unless you have a small kid who can play down then it’s great for them.

All they have to do is put a limit on bio banding say Sept. 1, then bam! They are SY under a BY banner. Everyone can be happy then.

Anonymous wrote:Don’t worry GA/Aspire will be BY with biobanding for league and showcases.

Which is arguably worse then SY unless you have a small kid who can play down then it’s great for them.

Well my Q4 2013 is small- so this might not be a bad thing for her

Don’t worry GA/Aspire will be BY with biobanding for league and showcases.

Which is arguably worse then SY unless you have a small kid who can play down then it’s great for them.

Ridiculous examples are a clear sign that one is losing an argument.