Anonymous
06/13/2025 12:02
Subject: Re:King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They should open it as a TJ type school but for the Arts.
TJ is a Virginia Academic Year Governor's School, not just an FCPS thing.
Virginia hasn't opened a new academic year governor's school in a while. But there are several for the arts. Just not here.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/specialized-instruction/academic-year-governor-s-schools
I meant for FCPS Arts school.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 12:01
Subject: Re:King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
All of Floris, McNair, and Fox Mill go to Carson. Most of Coates and Crossfield go there, along with a small part of Oak Hill (rest of Oak Hill goes to Franklin).
The people who are being really aggressive on the topic seem to be Crossfield folks insisting that they'll have dibs on the new school.
I don't think anyone has "dibs."
The Crossfield folks currently go to Oakton --which is a very long way.
Chantilly (while projected to lose membership) is the school that needs relief.
I could see Fox Mill staying with South Lakes. South Lakes is not going to want to give them up.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 11:51
Subject: Re:King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:They should open it as a TJ type school but for the Arts.
TJ is a Virginia Academic Year Governor's School, not just an FCPS thing.
Virginia hasn't opened a new academic year governor's school in a while. But there are several for the arts. Just not here.
https://www.doe.virginia.gov/teaching-learning-assessment/specialized-instruction/academic-year-governor-s-schools
Anonymous
06/13/2025 11:48
Subject: Re:King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
They should open it as a TJ type school but for the Arts.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 11:20
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
The purchase is to be finalized in August. They can have kids in the building during whatever minor renovations are needed to turn it into a county school from a private school. Every other school in the county is still in use during much more extensive renovations.
You forgot that schools need staff and teachers.
And who will get sent there?
This ain’t just a snap your fingers exercise.
Wouldn't much of the staff transfer from existing schools?
I am sure that there would be some transferring of teachers, but they would need more then that. If they decided that the kids who attend Carson as their base MS, so Fox Mill, Floris, Coates, and McNair, I think those are the ES that feed into Carson but I might be missing one, then the schools those kids attend will see a drop in population but not enough to move most of the teachers. I think that in this situation kids would be moved from South Lakes, Westfield, and Oakton. Some of the teachers could be moved from those schools to make up the core teaching component for the new school but you would need all of the elective teachers and probably more teachers for core subjects. And you need a new Admin team.
I think basic remodeling in the school and building an Admin team could be done in a year. Some additional renovations, like the sports fields, might take longer. Those could be shared with Carson.
All of Floris, McNair, and Fox Mill go to Carson. Most of Coates and Crossfield go there, along with a small part of Oak Hill (rest of Oak Hill goes to Franklin).
The people who are being really aggressive on the topic seem to be Crossfield folks insisting that they'll have dibs on the new school.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 11:10
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
The purchase is to be finalized in August. They can have kids in the building during whatever minor renovations are needed to turn it into a county school from a private school. Every other school in the county is still in use during much more extensive renovations.
You forgot that schools need staff and teachers.
And who will get sent there?
This ain’t just a snap your fingers exercise.
Wouldn't much of the staff transfer from existing schools?
Easier said than done. And who would go there? It’s taken them a year and a half to get to shoddy tentative maps. How on earth would they get there with this new school in a quicker timeframe?
Earliest this HS is used is Fall of 2027, but I envision it gets bumped at least a year to avoid making large changes in an election year.
I could see fall 2026.
Sure, and I could also see pigs flying.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 11:08
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
The purchase is to be finalized in August. They can have kids in the building during whatever minor renovations are needed to turn it into a county school from a private school. Every other school in the county is still in use during much more extensive renovations.
You forgot that schools need staff and teachers.
And who will get sent there?
This ain’t just a snap your fingers exercise.
Wouldn't much of the staff transfer from existing schools?
Easier said than done. And who would go there? It’s taken them a year and a half to get to shoddy tentative maps. How on earth would they get there with this new school in a quicker timeframe?
Earliest this HS is used is Fall of 2027, but I envision it gets bumped at least a year to avoid making large changes in an election year.
I could see fall 2026.
Coincides with boundary process BUT it could be used for 25-26 as a swing space for Coates non walkers. They get a bus anyway.
As per Lady FCPS removed lockers, teacher workrooms etc from Chantilly so there shuld be interior modifications at Chantilly.
Thru tool had South Lakes and Oakton at 100% or more plus Chantilly with trailers and a modular. Assume the site was on public land - was zoned for a school next to Carson- the county got $ from the sale and now buys back for $150 [land, new school building, out buildings, furnishings]. Obvously will need some larger desks and FCPS had some smaller toilets in ES restrooms.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 10:50
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
The purchase is to be finalized in August. They can have kids in the building during whatever minor renovations are needed to turn it into a county school from a private school. Every other school in the county is still in use during much more extensive renovations.
You forgot that schools need staff and teachers.
And who will get sent there?
This ain’t just a snap your fingers exercise.
Wouldn't much of the staff transfer from existing schools?
Easier said than done. And who would go there? It’s taken them a year and a half to get to shoddy tentative maps. How on earth would they get there with this new school in a quicker timeframe?
Earliest this HS is used is Fall of 2027, but I envision it gets bumped at least a year to avoid making large changes in an election year.
I could see fall 2026.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 10:50
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
The purchase is to be finalized in August. They can have kids in the building during whatever minor renovations are needed to turn it into a county school from a private school. Every other school in the county is still in use during much more extensive renovations.
You forgot that schools need staff and teachers.
And who will get sent there?
This ain’t just a snap your fingers exercise.
Wouldn't much of the staff transfer from existing schools?
I am sure that there would be some transferring of teachers, but they would need more then that. If they decided that the kids who attend Carson as their base MS, so Fox Mill, Floris, Coates, and McNair, I think those are the ES that feed into Carson but I might be missing one, then the schools those kids attend will see a drop in population but not enough to move most of the teachers. I think that in this situation kids would be moved from South Lakes, Westfield, and Oakton. Some of the teachers could be moved from those schools to make up the core teaching component for the new school but you would need all of the elective teachers and probably more teachers for core subjects. And you need a new Admin team.
I think basic remodeling in the school and building an Admin team could be done in a year. Some additional renovations, like the sports fields, might take longer. Those could be shared with Carson.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 10:48
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
The purchase is to be finalized in August. They can have kids in the building during whatever minor renovations are needed to turn it into a county school from a private school. Every other school in the county is still in use during much more extensive renovations.
You forgot that schools need staff and teachers.
And who will get sent there?
This ain’t just a snap your fingers exercise.
Wouldn't much of the staff transfer from existing schools?
Easier said than done. And who would go there? It’s taken them a year and a half to get to shoddy tentative maps. How on earth would they get there with this new school in a quicker timeframe?
Earliest this HS is used is Fall of 2027, but I envision it gets bumped at least a year to avoid making large changes in an election year.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 10:41
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
The purchase is to be finalized in August. They can have kids in the building during whatever minor renovations are needed to turn it into a county school from a private school. Every other school in the county is still in use during much more extensive renovations.
You forgot that schools need staff and teachers.
And who will get sent there?
This ain’t just a snap your fingers exercise.
Wouldn't much of the staff transfer from existing schools?
Anonymous
06/13/2025 10:36
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
The purchase is to be finalized in August. They can have kids in the building during whatever minor renovations are needed to turn it into a county school from a private school. Every other school in the county is still in use during much more extensive renovations.
You forgot that schools need staff and teachers.
And who will get sent there?
This ain’t just a snap your fingers exercise.
Agreed. Get it right and open it when it's ready. And prioritize getting this right and making the absolutely necessary ES adjustments at Coates and Parklawn. Any other MS/HS adjustments should be deferred indefinitely. They claim this will save hundreds of millions on a new western HS and allow for the acceleration of other projects so let them tell us how that's going to work before they change other boundaries that aren't KAA-related.
The Thru Consulting work to date indicates that they invariably screw up when they try to do too much at once.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 10:29
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
The purchase is to be finalized in August. They can have kids in the building during whatever minor renovations are needed to turn it into a county school from a private school. Every other school in the county is still in use during much more extensive renovations.
You forgot that schools need staff and teachers.
And who will get sent there?
This ain’t just a snap your fingers exercise.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 10:22
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
The purchase is to be finalized in August. They can have kids in the building during whatever minor renovations are needed to turn it into a county school from a private school. Every other school in the county is still in use during much more extensive renovations.
Anonymous
06/13/2025 10:10
Subject: King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any idea on when this would be ready for FCPS use? Maybe 2026-2027 school year?
No way. First they need to purchase the property. Then they need to set aside funds in next years budget to plan for renovations. Then they have to fund the renovations and complete the build. I’d say 2028-29 school year with 2027-28 being an ambitious timeline.
It's a fairly new property. How much in renovations could it need?
It’ll probably be mostly cosmetic (turning the soccer field into a football stadium, for example), but the school was designed for K-12 with small class sizes, so there will likely be a lot of repurposing of space that might involve knocking down walls.