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Anonymous wrote:It is not a buyout. I wish the media would report on this accurately. There is no guarantee you will be put on admin leave until you resign. The only perk you get is teleworking until your resignation date.

It is a trick.

Exactly right. There is no severance package. And once you resign they can terminate you at any time. Don’t be fooled people.

You get severance through the end of September this is very generous to those that just joined or are less than a few years in, those folks are likely younger and have more of a chance to find a job. People in the private sector would be thrilled to have this setup.

No you don't. The only benefit is continued telework. There is no severence payment.

Anonymous wrote:For those who don't want to go back to work in an office it is a good deal. Take the money. Work remotely for a private company.

You’re clueless. I got the email and am already in the office 5 days a week every week. As are all the people in my office. Unless we are out fighting fires. We all got the email.

Signed,
U.S. Forest Service scientist.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not a buyout. I wish the media would report on this accurately. There is no guarantee you will be put on admin leave until you resign. The only perk you get is teleworking until your resignation date.

It is a trick.

Exactly right. There is no severance package. And once you resign they can terminate you at any time. Don’t be fooled people.

You get severance through the end of September this is very generous to those that just joined or are less than a few years in, those folks are likely younger and have more of a chance to find a job. People in the private sector would be thrilled to have this setup.

It’s not severance. You are still expected to work remotely through September, at least as explained in the email. But, of course, they are going to gaslight people and make it as murky as possible.

Anonymous wrote:How can he pay these people for doing nothing plus pay other people to actually run the country?

This is nuts like all of his corrupt ideas.

The theory is that most of these people aren't doing much and will move on once the cushy teleworking govt job scam is up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is not a buyout. I wish the media would report on this accurately. There is no guarantee you will be put on admin leave until you resign. The only perk you get is teleworking until your resignation date.

It is a trick.

Exactly right. There is no severance package. And once you resign they can terminate you at any time. Don’t be fooled people.

You get severance through the end of September this is very generous to those that just joined or are less than a few years in, those folks are likely younger and have more of a chance to find a job. People in the private sector would be thrilled to have this setup.

There is no severance. There is nothing generous with this offer.

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Anonymous wrote:It is not a buyout. I wish the media would report on this accurately. There is no guarantee you will be put on admin leave until you resign. The only perk you get is teleworking until your resignation date.

It is a trick.

Exactly right. There is no severance package. And once you resign they can terminate you at any time. Don’t be fooled people.

You get severance through the end of September this is very generous to those that just joined or are less than a few years in, those folks are likely younger and have more of a chance to find a job. People in the private sector would be thrilled to have this setup.

Anonymous wrote:I have to admit that it is sort of interesting that government workers now all of sudden care about efficiency, effectiveness and clarity when interacting/communicating with the government.

Perhaps if they brought that same attitude to the way they govern us peons out in the colonies there would be more civilian appreciation for government work and workers.

I appreciate government workers and work immeasurably. Just because I have gripes with some things doesn’t mean I extend that to the whole of government. Further that part of government I continue to have the most issue with is Congress. It’s a bunch a folk there who need to get to work.

Anonymous wrote:The people who sent the email don't know how government works. Government employees know a lot about government benefits and forms and aren't going to up and quit without a lot more formal explanation and paperwork. The only ones who are going to leave are the ones who are eligible to retire between now and September anyhow, the ones who are truly remote and RTO would be basically impossible, and the ones who would be quitting in the next couple of months for other reasons. They are definitely not going to get 5-10% of the workforce (which sucks for everyone else, it probably means they will definitely fire all the provisional employees, for example, to boost the numbers they will want to crow about).

All while the unemployment rate goes up, feelings about the job market goes down, and morale in government plummets as people take on additional work or don’t know what they’re doing.

I have to admit that it is sort of interesting that government workers now all of sudden care about efficiency, effectiveness and clarity when interacting/communicating with the government.

Perhaps if they brought that same attitude to the way they govern us peons out in the colonies there would be more civilian appreciation for government work and workers.

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Anonymous wrote:They released the FAQs and it clarifies that you'd only have to work on rare occasions. I'm seriously considering the offer. I love my job, and I voted for Trump (come at me!). But it appears that forced relocations are in the mix. My spouse makes 7 figures. I think I might just leave and find a consulting gig.

Propaganda

No, I'm a real person. The number of people with circumstances similar to mine is vanishingly small so I don't think my situation would work well for propaganda. I've already been on the fence about continuing in the government for various reasons that have nothing to do with politics. I've enjoyed my career and just considering leaving while the party is still fun.

If you trust Elon Musk will pay you to do jack then just send them the resignation email. So few people are going to do it that they might highlight your situation in the next OPM email blast.

I’m confused. Elon did this same thing at Twitter. Where are all of the first hand accounts of people resigning and then not getting their payouts?

Here https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/10/business/elon-musk-beats-lawsuit-fired-twitter-workers/index.html

The whole offer is suspect.

From the very first FAQ:

"Frequently Asked Questions
Am I expected to work during the deferred resignation period?
No. Except in rare cases determined by your agency, you are not expected to work."

Well.... then figure that out, first, before making this offer and before anyone taking this offer. That is a fundamental detail. No one can evaluate whether they want to take this offer until they know the EXACT terms. And whether you are expected to work during the deferred resignation period? Whether you are allowed to work a different job? Whether... ALL the details... would need to be hashed out.

And, you would need employees to be able to trust that you stand by your agreements, and that you will follow the law (ALL employment law) and honor your commitments. That's why it is so important to have a good reputation. So people will trust you when you make an offer.

NO ONE should trust the Trump administration for any of this.

What happens if 12 people in one office all decide to take them up on this offer - and it turns out they were vital to something the administration actually cares about? I guess they will decide that's a "rare instance" and determines that you DO need to keep working while in the resignation period. That's the point - THEY get to decide.

So how could you possibly accept an ambiguous offer like this? Unless you genuinely don't need the job in the first place and were just working for "funzies"?

1. Musk found out that it is harder to fire federal employees than he ever imagined
2. He rehashed his twitter offer, including the subject line (reminds me of “middle schooler reusing a homework assignment”)
3. Ultimately, the twitter employees never got their payouts
4. Feels like this is a set up for trump’s favored circle to come in and gobble up private contracts because every agency will be understaffed

The people who sent the email don't know how government works. Government employees know a lot about government benefits and forms and aren't going to up and quit without a lot more formal explanation and paperwork. The only ones who are going to leave are the ones who are eligible to retire between now and September anyhow, the ones who are truly remote and RTO would be basically impossible, and the ones who would be quitting in the next couple of months for other reasons. They are definitely not going to get 5-10% of the workforce (which sucks for everyone else, it probably means they will definitely fire all the provisional employees, for example, to boost the numbers they will want to crow about).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They released the FAQs and it clarifies that you'd only have to work on rare occasions. I'm seriously considering the offer. I love my job, and I voted for Trump (come at me!). But it appears that forced relocations are in the mix. My spouse makes 7 figures. I think I might just leave and find a consulting gig.

Propaganda

No, I'm a real person. The number of people with circumstances similar to mine is vanishingly small so I don't think my situation would work well for propaganda. I've already been on the fence about continuing in the government for various reasons that have nothing to do with politics. I've enjoyed my career and just considering leaving while the party is still fun.

If you trust Elon Musk will pay you to do jack then just send them the resignation email. So few people are going to do it that they might highlight your situation in the next OPM email blast.

I’m confused. Elon did this same thing at Twitter. Where are all of the first hand accounts of people resigning and then not getting their payouts?

Better question: How did Musk doing this make the Twitter better? Good people left. Morale of those that stayed was/is in the toilet. Revenue is down and so is operations. What was the positive and why should anyone trust him to lead an efficiency effort in government?

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Anonymous wrote:It is not a buyout. I wish the media would report on this accurately. There is no guarantee you will be put on admin leave until you resign. The only perk you get is teleworking until your resignation date.

It is a trick.

Exactly right. There is no severance package. And once you resign they can terminate you at any time. Don’t be fooled people.

And the press should ask why the people need to telework when they made such as big deal of everyone being in the office?