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Anonymous wrote:For a 14yo boy it really depends on the stage of puberty. Some 14yos are indeed done growing or nearly done growing. Some haven’t even started. My older DS was 5’3” on his 14th birthday (had barely started puberty) and is 6’0” at age 17. On the other hand, my younger DS is 14 and 5’9”, well into puberty with a voice change/leg hair and light mustache that he has to buzz off every few weeks. His growth has slowed and I doubt he will grow much more. He has had a good 2 years of rapid growth already.

OP has your DS had rapid growth years? As in 3 inches/yr or more? That is often a clue also.

But not all boys will follow the “norm” (a few years of elevated growth and then tapering off). I have a seen a few boys (older DS’s friends) who seemed pretty mature (muscles and deep voice etc)- I’d have guessed they were done growing- yet they still tacked on another few inches in high school.

I’d get a 2nd opinion for sure. I wasn’t concerned when my DS was 5’3” at 14 but I would’ve been if he had seemed well into puberty already. I’d also ask about growth patterns in the extended family if you have not already.

Height for teen boys is all over TikTok.

? I’m not following

TikTok constantly reinforces the mantra: height = value (of boys/men).

TikTok does this in myriad ways.

TikTok features and emphasizes the insult “short-man energy.”

TikTok features humor centered on mocking short boys. And it’s not just TikTok alone.

Short-jokes (about boys) are all over the popular social media platforms kids love to access on their phones.

Because it's reflecting the culture. I'm not saying it's okay, but short boys and men have always been made fun of. Social media I'm sure amplifies it. But blaming it on social media isn't right I don't think.

It’s democrat / progressive culture. The democrats are the ones making a boy’s height the measure of his worth.

Weak troll attempt. Nobody except you is stupid enough to believe redpill culture, Andrew Tate, and height bullying reflect progressive values.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a female and I don’t think I could find short men or very tall men attractive.

What do you think this is adding to the thread? Good for you...I guess. It's not like people can control their height. So have a preference sure! My preference is that you keep your mouth shut.

(before the inevitable 'touched a nerve" reply--I am the mother of a 5'11 son. i just think PP's comment is superfluous and rude.)

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(Also loving the comments on this thread about 6’7” being too tall for men and 6’0” being too tall for women. Some people just can’t win I guess.)

Most people just don’t want their kids being on the extreme end of height whether it’s a 5’2” man or 6’2” female.

Maybe I should start looking into giving my lovely daughter something to stunt her growth?

Yes please

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Anonymous wrote:If short women are so concerned about their child's height why didn't they marry taller? What did you think was going to happen marrying a short man?

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Every week we have a post from some DCUM fretting about her short son.

Some men are just short. And they are especially likely to be so if they have short parents.

Are you going to inject him with exogenous hormones because of the genetics with you bequeathed him?

5’3 is not a genetically expected height for a boy with parents who are 5’8 and 5’3 (neither of which are actually short heights). Just because TikTok told you anything below 6’ is “short” doesn’t make it factually true.

I have always heard boys take after their mother’s heights. So if the mom is short (and 5’3” is short) then their son has a higher chance of being short.

While my DH is taller than me (5’10”) I am a tall woman (5’7”). Our son who is young still is in the 99th percentile for height. Not surprising.

Hahahaha in no world is 5’7” considered “tall” for a woman.

A quick google search shows that 5’7” is 80th percentile for a woman in the US. It is definitely on the tall side for a female.

Anonymous wrote:My son was told he was full height by his pediatrician the last several visits at 5’10”. Last visit in August. Measured him prior to taking test first learners permit. Now 6’. They are not always correct with their estimates.

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It is usually pretty obvious when they are getting close to done growing (big growth spurt done and then it slows way down, voice change done etc) but beyond that, who knows. Some boys just suddenly stop, others will slowly pick up a few more inches.

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Anonymous wrote:OP we had a very similar office visit with an endocrinologist at Children's National. I asked for labs to be run and was denied that as well, (which is ridiculous IMO) based on an almost closed hand x-ray for my 15 year old. We were also all upset and don't really feel like our son is finished growing. Based on our heights, charts show him growing to 5'10" but he is 5'5". We ended up seeing Dr. Nicolas Cuttriss who is out of network but did put him on an aromatase inhibitor and he ran lots of labs. It has only been 6 months and we need a follow up but at least he didn't completely close the door on things. My son's puberty stage sounds very similar to you sons.

This matters less than his own growth curve on charts. Has he been on a growth curve to finish at 5'11" or 5'5"?

Growth curve means nothing once you hit puberty. Puberty ultimately is what stops growth. If puberty is early kids finish growing early, regardless of their place on the growth charts.

NP here. Does growing stop when puberty also ends? Or does height stop somewhere in the middle of puberty? How do you know if your son is done with puberty?

My kid is Asian/white and it looks like he's inherited the Asian gene for (lack of) hairiness. His arms are as hairless as a baby's butt. He has very slight leg hair on his lower legs that. I don't think that will be a good indicator.

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Anonymous wrote:OP we had a very similar office visit with an endocrinologist at Children's National. I asked for labs to be run and was denied that as well, (which is ridiculous IMO) based on an almost closed hand x-ray for my 15 year old. We were also all upset and don't really feel like our son is finished growing. Based on our heights, charts show him growing to 5'10" but he is 5'5". We ended up seeing Dr. Nicolas Cuttriss who is out of network but did put him on an aromatase inhibitor and he ran lots of labs. It has only been 6 months and we need a follow up but at least he didn't completely close the door on things. My son's puberty stage sounds very similar to you sons.

This matters less than his own growth curve on charts. Has he been on a growth curve to finish at 5'11" or 5'5"?

Growth curve means nothing once you hit puberty. Puberty ultimately is what stops growth. If puberty is early kids finish growing early, regardless of their place on the growth charts.

My son was told he was full height by his pediatrician the last several visits at 5’10”. Last visit in August. Measured him prior to taking test first learners permit. Now 6’. They are not always correct with their estimates.

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Anonymous wrote:If short women are so concerned about their child's height why didn't they marry taller? What did you think was going to happen marrying a short man?

+1

Every week we have a post from some DCUM fretting about her short son.

Some men are just short. And they are especially likely to be so if they have short parents.

Are you going to inject him with exogenous hormones because of the genetics with you bequeathed him?

5’3 is not a genetically expected height for a boy with parents who are 5’8 and 5’3 (neither of which are actually short heights). Just because TikTok told you anything below 6’ is “short” doesn’t make it factually true.

I have always heard boys take after their mother’s heights. So if the mom is short (and 5’3” is short) then their son has a higher chance of being short.

While my DH is taller than me (5’10”) I am a tall woman (5’7”). Our son who is young still is in the 99th percentile for height. Not surprising.

Hahahaha in no world is 5’7” considered “tall” for a woman.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a female and I don’t think I could find short men or very tall men attractive.

My friend is married to a guy who is probably 5’5” and he is fantastic. He has everythhhg minus height - good looking face, great hair, super fit, very athletic, smart, kind and funny.

Op, please don’t let your son have a complex about his height.

My son is 5’8” and close to being finished growing. Most of his friends are all over 6’ with one close friend who is 6’5”. He is the short one in his group. I never focus or mention height.

I don’t think OP has much control over what her son feels. At best, she can try to shape the narrative and help build resilience. PPs somehow think that kids don’t have thoughts and opinions of their own. 5’8” vs 5’4” is a world of difference for a man. Not that you can’t be a great, successful guy at any height but don’t be so dismissive about a kid’s feelings at 5’4” or 5’3”.

Society dictates how her son will feel. Social media and regular media push height issues, like that Kamala Harris campaign posted up-thread, plus also this:



Women are ultimately free and have the prerogative to choose tall men and reject the short ones.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a female and I don’t think I could find short men or very tall men attractive.

What do you think this is adding to the thread? Good for you...I guess. It's not like people can control their height. So have a preference sure! My preference is that you keep your mouth shut.

(before the inevitable 'touched a nerve" reply--I am the mother of a 5'11 son. i just think PP's comment is superfluous and rude.)

+1

(Also loving the comments on this thread about 6’7” being too tall for men and 6’0” being too tall for women. Some people just can’t win I guess.)

Most people just don’t want their kids being on the extreme end of height whether it’s a 5’2” man or 6’2” female.

Maybe I should start looking into giving my lovely daughter something to stunt her growth?

Too tall girls can be treated to slow down growth with estrogen.

There is less stigma for too tall girls but it’s usually not seen as desirable. Just like too short guys are not seen as desirable.

I think it’s ridiculous. Short guys find companions the same as every other guy. So do tall girls. They are not handicapped in any way.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a female and I don’t think I could find short men or very tall men attractive.

My friend is married to a guy who is probably 5’5” and he is fantastic. He has everythhhg minus height - good looking face, great hair, super fit, very athletic, smart, kind and funny.

Op, please don’t let your son have a complex about his height.

My son is 5’8” and close to being finished growing. Most of his friends are all over 6’ with one close friend who is 6’5”. He is the short one in his group. I never focus or mention height.

I don’t think OP has much control over what her son feels. At best, she can try to shape the narrative and help build resilience. PPs somehow think that kids don’t have thoughts and opinions of their own. 5’8” vs 5’4” is a world of difference for a man. Not that you can’t be a great, successful guy at any height but don’t be so dismissive about a kid’s feelings at 5’4” or 5’3”.

This! Sure 5'8" is on the shorter side for a guy, but your son's experience is completely irrelevant to that of a kid who is done growing at 5'3"!

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Anonymous wrote:I am a female and I don’t think I could find short men or very tall men attractive.

What do you think this is adding to the thread? Good for you...I guess. It's not like people can control their height. So have a preference sure! My preference is that you keep your mouth shut.

(before the inevitable 'touched a nerve" reply--I am the mother of a 5'11 son. i just think PP's comment is superfluous and rude.)

+1

(Also loving the comments on this thread about 6’7” being too tall for men and 6’0” being too tall for women. Some people just can’t win I guess.)

Most people just don’t want their kids being on the extreme end of height whether it’s a 5’2” man or 6’2” female.

Maybe I should start looking into giving my lovely daughter something to stunt her growth?

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Anonymous wrote:I am a female and I don’t think I could find short men or very tall men attractive.

What do you think this is adding to the thread? Good for you...I guess. It's not like people can control their height. So have a preference sure! My preference is that you keep your mouth shut.

(before the inevitable 'touched a nerve" reply--I am the mother of a 5'11 son. i just think PP's comment is superfluous and rude.)

+1

(Also loving the comments on this thread about 6’7” being too tall for men and 6’0” being too tall for women. Some people just can’t win I guess.)

Most people just don’t want their kids being on the extreme end of height whether it’s a 5’2” man or 6’2” female.

I’d get a 2nd opinion.

OP has your son had a growth spurt yet or no (along with his other puberty signs)? How tall was he at, say, 12?

I only read the first few pages, but your experience sounds similar to a friend of mine.

My DS is on growth hormones. The ped didn’t see the need to refer him, but after multiple years of her requesting check ups every 6 months because she was concerned with DS’s growth at his annual appts, I asked about it at 12 and decided to take him on my own when he was 13.

First appt was labs, bone xray and a physical exam. Labs weren’t normal, xray showed a year+ behind his chronological age, can’t remember the Tanner #.

Next step was a pituitary stimulation test. Two IVs, multiple hours, not easy. DS failed the test.

Third test was an MRI with contrast to make sure the pituitary was structurally sound/no tumor. Gratefully his pituitary looks fine.

Ped Endo said based on the outcome of the battery of test he was eligible for hormone treatment (fyi, the full test battery took 6mths), but that it was also possible DS was just a late bloomer. The whole process was DS’s choice and he wanted to initiate treatment. I give him 2 injections weekly and he gets monitoring blood work/physical exam every 3 months. Not sure how long he will be on them.

My friend took her son of a similar age/height (although he was at a healthier weight) when he was closer to 14 and his bloodwork was normal, his bone age matched his chronological age, and his Tanner # was normal. The Endo told them that growth hormones only work when there is a delay or they are indicated earlier. Once puberty is too far along they are not impactful. Idk, if a 2nd doctor would agree, but last she said they were not pursuing it further.