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Anonymous wrote:Sugar relationships only work if the man is crazy loaded or you marry the sugar daddy and never work again. And for example Lady Spencer married a man 20 years older. To me that’s a successful sugar daddy marriage.

Yea, like, in the 4-6 months of the “arrangement” he gifts you an apartment or a luxury car.
But otherwise in a country with great labor market it’s not feasible for women to prostitute themselves. High reputation damage potential if she’s in a professional job. And risky, both physically and emotionally.

I can imagine though that some silly very young college girls who underestimate these risks might be willing to do that for a nice purse. Women in art who are extremely in need might do this, too.

+100. That’s a good metric. Would there be reputational damage if the details of the arrangement were known? If so that’s likely on the prostitution (ie sugar babying) side. If not, it’s just a young woman getting taken out to dinner by a wealthy older boyfriend. Which is not prostitution unless you are an incel.

If I was engaging in some arrangement I would have an uptight contrast specifying the terms of ending the relationship, what’s allowed, and NDA . But I’m a grown ass woman who knows men and life.

The men above are dealing with silly college students who sell themselves for purses. Just super risky and stupid for the girls.

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Anonymous wrote:To the 50 yr old sugardaddy: You're not gonna win with this crowd, but it is fun to watch them get all riled up!

I know multiple sugardaddies in my circle. It's more common in the DC area than people think. While I go for women mid 20's to mid 30's, my friends who focus on college girls have a lot to choose from. GW and American in particular have a lot of sugarbabies. A lot of them seem to be doing it to pay for extra things they can't usually afford, like fancy handbags.

When I meet a potential sugarbaby, we go for a drink first, and we'll proceed with something maybe 75% of the time. We've already chatted online before meeting, and I have certain things I look for before proceeding. Some are purely into money, which works for some of my friends. I like good conversation and going out and having fun at restaurants and bars, so my type is a little different. No surprise that the women on such sites are looking for a variety of different things too.

Yea, having fun in restaurants definitely is a very high bar that they have to meet for you.
What sexual needs list do you have ? Just curious

NP. Good question. This guy is either deluding himself out of a kink or misogyny that normal dating is “sugar babying”; or he’s actually just engaging in prostitution that he somehow thinks is superior and sexy because it is “sugar babying” (and he’s equally deluding himself that the “baby” is attracted to him.)

Just curious of the specific list of the acts/kinks. Don’t care about his delusions

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Anonymous wrote:To the 50 yr old sugardaddy: You're not gonna win with this crowd, but it is fun to watch them get all riled up!

I know multiple sugardaddies in my circle. It's more common in the DC area than people think. While I go for women mid 20's to mid 30's, my friends who focus on college girls have a lot to choose from. GW and American in particular have a lot of sugarbabies. A lot of them seem to be doing it to pay for extra things they can't usually afford, like fancy handbags.

When I meet a potential sugarbaby, we go for a drink first, and we'll proceed with something maybe 75% of the time. We've already chatted online before meeting, and I have certain things I look for before proceeding. Some are purely into money, which works for some of my friends. I like good conversation and going out and having fun at restaurants and bars, so my type is a little different. No surprise that the women on such sites are looking for a variety of different things too.

Yea, having fun in restaurants definitely is a very high bar that they have to meet for you.
What sexual needs list do you have ? Just curious

NP. Good question. This guy is either deluding himself out of a kink or misogyny that normal dating is “sugar babying”; or he’s actually just engaging in prostitution that he somehow thinks is superior and sexy because it is “sugar babying” (and he’s equally deluding himself that the “baby” is attracted to him.)

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Anonymous wrote:Sugar relationships only work if the man is crazy loaded or you marry the sugar daddy and never work again. And for example Lady Spencer married a man 20 years older. To me that’s a successful sugar daddy marriage.

Yea, like, in the 4-6 months of the “arrangement” he gifts you an apartment or a luxury car.
But otherwise in a country with great labor market it’s not feasible for women to prostitute themselves. High reputation damage potential if she’s in a professional job. And risky, both physically and emotionally.

I can imagine though that some silly very young college girls who underestimate these risks might be willing to do that for a nice purse. Women in art who are extremely in need might do this, too.

+100. That’s a good metric. Would there be reputational damage if the details of the arrangement were known? If so that’s likely on the prostitution (ie sugar babying) side. If not, it’s just a young woman getting taken out to dinner by a wealthy older boyfriend. Which is not prostitution unless you are an incel.

Anonymous wrote:Sugar relationships only work if the man is crazy loaded or you marry the sugar daddy and never work again. And for example Lady Spencer married a man 20 years older. To me that’s a successful sugar daddy marriage.

once again - a younger woman marrying an older wealthy man is not prostitution.

sugar babying is prostitution.

there’s probably a gray area where a young woman is dating an older man she has no actual attraction to and gets gifts etc. but that’s not prostitution.

sugar baby = prostitution.

Anonymous wrote:To the 50 yr old sugardaddy: You're not gonna win with this crowd, but it is fun to watch them get all riled up!

I know multiple sugardaddies in my circle. It's more common in the DC area than people think. While I go for women mid 20's to mid 30's, my friends who focus on college girls have a lot to choose from. GW and American in particular have a lot of sugarbabies. A lot of them seem to be doing it to pay for extra things they can't usually afford, like fancy handbags.

When I meet a potential sugarbaby, we go for a drink first, and we'll proceed with something maybe 75% of the time. We've already chatted online before meeting, and I have certain things I look for before proceeding. Some are purely into money, which works for some of my friends. I like good conversation and going out and having fun at restaurants and bars, so my type is a little different. No surprise that the women on such sites are looking for a variety of different things too.

Yea, having fun in restaurants definitely is a very high bar that they have to meet for you.
What sexual needs list do you have ? Just curious

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sugar relationships only work if the man is crazy loaded or you marry the sugar daddy and never work again. And for example Lady Spencer married a man 20 years older. To me that’s a successful sugar daddy marriage. [/quote]

Yea, like, in the 4-6 months of the “arrangement” he gifts you an apartment or a luxury car.
But otherwise in a country with great labor market it’s not feasible for women to prostitute themselves. High reputation damage potential if she’s in a professional job. And risky, both physically and emotionally.

I can imagine though that some silly very young college girls who underestimate these risks might be willing to do that for a nice purse. Women in art who are extremely in need might do this, too. [/quote]

So if a man approached you on old or in real life and asked you to be his sugar baby you would be insulted?

I was on tinder in New York City before with my age hidden and I had a lot of men in their '30s who wanted to be my sugar daddy.[/quote]

For a real paid off apartment. I would do it. Why not? I can use the rest of my funds to save for retirement, etc, keep up my looks. It’s an investment not different than playing the lotto etc. [/quote]

Keep your pockets wider. Nobody will get you an apartment

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sugar relationships only work if the man is crazy loaded or you marry the sugar daddy and never work again. And for example Lady Spencer married a man 20 years older. To me that’s a successful sugar daddy marriage. [/quote]

Yea, like, in the 4-6 months of the “arrangement” he gifts you an apartment or a luxury car.
But otherwise in a country with great labor market it’s not feasible for women to prostitute themselves. High reputation damage potential if she’s in a professional job. And risky, both physically and emotionally.

I can imagine though that some silly very young college girls who underestimate these risks might be willing to do that for a nice purse. Women in art who are extremely in need might do this, too. [/quote]

So if a man approached you on old or in real life and asked you to be his sugar baby you would be insulted?

I was on tinder in New York City before with my age hidden and I had a lot of men in their '30s who wanted to be my sugar daddy.[/quote]

For a real paid off apartment. I would do it. Why not? I can use the rest of my funds to save for retirement, etc, keep up my looks. It’s an investment not different than playing the lotto etc.

To the 50 yr old sugardaddy: You're not gonna win with this crowd, but it is fun to watch them get all riled up!

I know multiple sugardaddies in my circle. It's more common in the DC area than people think. While I go for women mid 20's to mid 30's, my friends who focus on college girls have a lot to choose from. GW and American in particular have a lot of sugarbabies. A lot of them seem to be doing it to pay for extra things they can't usually afford, like fancy handbags.

When I meet a potential sugarbaby, we go for a drink first, and we'll proceed with something maybe 75% of the time. We've already chatted online before meeting, and I have certain things I look for before proceeding. Some are purely into money, which works for some of my friends. I like good conversation and going out and having fun at restaurants and bars, so my type is a little different. No surprise that the women on such sites are looking for a variety of different things too.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sugar relationships only work if the man is crazy loaded or you marry the sugar daddy and never work again. And for example Lady Spencer married a man 20 years older. To me that’s a successful sugar daddy marriage. [/quote]

Yea, like, in the 4-6 months of the “arrangement” he gifts you an apartment or a luxury car.
But otherwise in a country with great labor market it’s not feasible for women to prostitute themselves. High reputation damage potential if she’s in a professional job. And risky, both physically and emotionally.

I can imagine though that some silly very young college girls who underestimate these risks might be willing to do that for a nice purse. Women in art who are extremely in need might do this, too. [/quote]

So if a man approached you on old or in real life and asked you to be his sugar baby you would be insulted?

I was on tinder in New York City before with my age hidden and I had a lot of men in their '30s who wanted to be my sugar daddy.[/quote]

Yes I would be insulted. I was approached by an actual tech mogul. Not kidding. He was very sexy and charismatic. But he was talking to me like I was a nameless toy, provided a list of items he wanted in the bedroom. He was very kinky. Initially it started like passionate sexting and romantic relationship but he quickly followed with more and more pornographic requests. I never saw him again. I would guess he’s used to it. But it was inhumanly transactional so no I wouldn’t have done it even for an apartment.
But he had a long term GF who was very amenable to things, she was a poor dancer.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Sugar relationships only work if the man is crazy loaded or you marry the sugar daddy and never work again. And for example Lady Spencer married a man 20 years older. To me that’s a successful sugar daddy marriage. [/quote]

Yea, like, in the 4-6 months of the “arrangement” he gifts you an apartment or a luxury car.
But otherwise in a country with great labor market it’s not feasible for women to prostitute themselves. High reputation damage potential if she’s in a professional job. And risky, both physically and emotionally.

I can imagine though that some silly very young college girls who underestimate these risks might be willing to do that for a nice purse. Women in art who are extremely in need might do this, too. [/quote]

So if a man approached you on old or in real life and asked you to be his sugar baby you would be insulted?

I was on tinder in New York City before with my age hidden and I had a lot of men in their '30s who wanted to be my sugar daddy.

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Anonymous wrote:Sooo… how does one go about this in their 40s? lol.. no but seriously… groceries ain’t cheap

I’m a long time sugar daddy. I would not date you atm because I’m 40s too and I go for the 20s-early 30s but I imagine when I’m coming up on 60+ I’d go for a hot milfy 40 something sugar baby

Best bet is to have awesome pics and sign up on seeking.com DC unlike most of the country is a sugar baby market meaning that odds are better for SBs than they are for SDs. Because DC is high income and high education area there are plenty of rich daddies but not enough quality SBs (because the quality ladies in DMV tend to already have high income/education) so you will have better luck here than in places like NYC or LA where there are 10 hot SBs to each legit SD

There are so few truly attractive women on seeking. Not sure who wants to pay for these 20 year olds that look like cheap baristas. Being 20 doesn't make you more beautiful. If a wet P is the only criteria, then you can get this for free on tinder

No one offers allowance or $ to average fat or ugly girls. You are right most of DC area seeking profiles are ugly. Just like tinder lol. The rare hot women are hard to land but they are there. and that is why I said earlier that DC is a hot market for genuinely attractive sugar babies regardless of age. Go to LA and I’m swimming in 22yr old 9-10-11/10 hotties, new one every week if I want.. Here in DC the hot ones are hard to find think like 2-3mo of effort lol vs 2-3 days in LA or NYC

Why dont they sleep with you for free?

Well I’m 50 and only interested in under 32-33 at the most. I’ve got a dad bod, and not super photogenic so don’t get a lot of hits on the dating apps. I’m super busy and don’t have time to socialize and get dates in real life. This is so much easier. The women are much hotter and girls who sugar are definitely kinkier and more sexually open than vanilla dating girls. Instead of wasting lot of time effort and $ on things like dinners, shows and normal courting activities I just give the sugar baby the cash. And the keyword here is time. My work hour is worth 600 and so if I’m spending 2-3-4hours courting a vanilla woman with no guarantee of xxx vs giving a sugar baby 500-1000 and getting straight to xxx it’s definitely worthwhile for me. We both get what we want and need.

Bs troll here. Lots of these posts are trolls trolling along.

What exactly is trolling here? It’s all very simple logical practical and if you put your old frumpy hag ego away then makes complete sense:

Men who have money will pay to have sex with hot young sexy sugar babies

Men who have money will most always go for hot and young vs old and frumpy

Most men who have money are older and older men usually are not the hot guys killing it on tinder hookups so why not use the money for getting what they want

When men who have money get really old (60+) they will settle for the older 40+ milfy types because even lots of money is not going to attract hot 28yr old to a geriatric sugar daddy

But no, the average 40-50s sugar daddy is unlikely to spend his hard earned cash on 40+ milfy babies

Seriously what is trolling about stating the facts of sugar life?

For the record I’m 50 and meeting my super hot favorite 35yr old baby tonight. She will sleep over and my blue pill lets me go all night long + mornings too. We’ve been sugar dating for about 6-7mo and I’m pretty open with her and let her know that I’ll probably be looking for a young hot replacement soon. She actually loves the idea of us finding a baby sugar baby for threesome. Like mommy daughter and daddy type 3some fantasy 😈 I guess she is all talk though. I expect drama if I do find a young one but the thing I love about sugar dating is that all the cards are on the table there is no games lies and deception

Gosh how disgusting. I’m 46, met a guy yesterday online who is 55. Professor at Ivy, we spoke about our travels, his exploration of Sistine Chapel, best hikes we’ve done, scuba diving, his kids and college choices. You know, truly nice and educated men are not only looking for xxx they need connection, too.

But to each their own.

Sure. Call me disgusting. My sugar baby and I spent a week in Hawaii last month. We hiked, kayaked, took a helicopter ride around the island, spent time at the beach, had sex in the 5 star hotel pool at midnight (you know it’s 6hr behind so we were literally up all night lol). We talk about her work, her family, my kids, her mom and dad, my mom and dad, her sister, my brother, we do normal couple things. Except we also share with each other our vanilla dating stories and support each other emotionally with affection and caring. And we have lots and lots of amazing kinky sex 2-3 times a day. Non stop. Just like our talks and chats, non stop.

Truly nice educated men who have a sex drive need the whole package. Not just an old lady who wants to explore the Sistine chapel (btw done that too with another baby I had last yr- ha😈)

you’re serially dating women who are more or less following standard dating tropes. but you’re getting off on calling it “sugar” because you like the idea that you control her via money. it’s basically a (gross) kink.

There is no control. Each party can walk away at any time. There was a study done a while ago on sugar power dynamics and it found there are two power centers in sugar relationships (1) extremely hot young and smart women (2) the super wealthy rich men. The hot women probably have more power because they would have lots of wealthy men competing over her.

Here you go:
One of the study’s most intriguing revelations concerns the power dynamics within sugar dating. Contrary to expectations, it was found that sugar babies frequently hold significant negotiating power, derived from their desirability and ability to set the terms of the arrangement. This challenges the stereotypical view of benefactors holding all the control due to their financial leverage. If anything, the power dynamics seem to work in reverse in most cases, with the sugar baby yielding more perceived power than the sugar daddy.


https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/sugar-dating-psychology/

In your link above, the study's researcher said this: "“Social media certainly has helped bring these issues to light and to create a certain level of openness about it, but we are concerned that by doing so many who stand to benefit financially (i.e., the companies promoting these relationships) continue to exploit young people, especially those in financial need, by suggesting that these relationships are common, typical, or normative. It’s hard to get around that point.”

Anonymous wrote:Sugar relationships only work if the man is crazy loaded or you marry the sugar daddy and never work again. And for example Lady Spencer married a man 20 years older. To me that’s a successful sugar daddy marriage.

Yea, like, in the 4-6 months of the “arrangement” he gifts you an apartment or a luxury car.
But otherwise in a country with great labor market it’s not feasible for women to prostitute themselves. High reputation damage potential if she’s in a professional job. And risky, both physically and emotionally.

I can imagine though that some silly very young college girls who underestimate these risks might be willing to do that for a nice purse. Women in art who are extremely in need might do this, too.

Sugar relationships only work if the man is crazy loaded or you marry the sugar daddy and never work again. And for example Lady Spencer married a man 20 years older. To me that’s a successful sugar daddy marriage.

Anonymous wrote:I know this is just anecdotal but my 86 year old dad is as healthy as a horse. Rarely gets sick or goes to the doctor. He takes care of my 75 year old mom who has everything from arthritis to asthma to knee replacement to spinal reconstruction to now... onset of dementia

both ate healthy all their lives
never drank much
my dad smoked a little bit (not heavy)
no drugs from what I could tell

you never know...

And...this relates to sugar babies and their daddies how, exactly?

Wrong thread? I sure hope so.