Anonymous wrote:Biden will do fine in the debate. Expectations will be set low and he will exceed them.

This post unfortunately turned out to be spectacularly wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone mentioned polling above

The 2016 polling was actually within margin of error

Since then, polling has skewed more heavily R and D’s keep beating polls by multiple points

That is the current trend. We shall see where we land in November

The truth is that Trump is as far behind Biden as he was in 2020. He's at least 4 points behind. But the media and polls want to make this seem like a close race, so they use biased polling models that lean right and show a closer race, maybe even one leaning right for Trump. But both candidates have about the same percentage of their respective party base, so they are neck and neck there. But the reality is that the independent vote leaned slightly left before the Trump judgement in NY and is now leaning even more left after the judgement in NY. And after the debate, when Trump's dementia devolves into more shark, battery and boat stories, the independent vote will lean more left. Trump needs some major media swing by September to stop the slow and steady attrition of his non-base support. Because right now, he's in a slow and steady nickel and diming of the middle 40% of the electorate.

Both of you are clueless.

Trump overperformed 2020 polling. Substantially. Just look at 2020 polls and the final outcomes. RCP has them. The polls were definitely within margin of error for the 2022 midterms. The Ds won almost all the close elections but those were tiny wins. Just look at the polls!

And the last post is either someone trolling or someone delusional.

No, I'm not trolling or delusional. I have just paid attention to the two elections post RvW. In 2022 and 2023, anytime abortion rights have been on the ballot, an unprecedented number of 18-34 year old and suburban women have come out to vote and have voted between 65-85% in favor of abortion rights. And these are people that normally don't vote, so this is not swaying undecided voters to vote a particular way. These are people who normally do not vote or register to vote and have decided based on the issue that is very relevant to their lives, to come out, register and vote to protect abortion rights and the right for people who are of childbearing age to have a right to make their own medical decisions. In Ohio, Kentucky, Kansas and Virginia, these people came out to protect abortion rights. Now, the abortion issue will be on the national agenda, because Biden is pointing out that Trump and the MAGA republicans are going to try for a nationwide ban on abortion rights and once again, these demographics, who are not yet accounted for, will be coming out largely in favor of Biden and the Democrats.

And take note that those who are 26 now, were not legal to vote in the 2016 election. Those that are 22 were not legal to vote in 2020. So, there are many 18-34 year olds who never had the change to vote against Trump and who are going to be very affected by the overturning of RvW that will now be able to vote to protect their rights. And they will come out in record numbers to protect their self-interests.

Trump got many of the conservative fringe like the Oathbreakers, Proud Boys and other militant groups, plus the white supremacists and neo-nazis to come out in 2020 and that was how he got his record number of voters. But there are not that many new ultra-conservative finger types this time around that haven't already been accounted for. Trump is not going to get more popular, only less so between now and November.

DP...these are people who grew up with gun drills in elementary school, who suffered through COVID while in high school and college and who lived the Trump craziness when they were coming of age.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump supporters- here’s a question. What did Trump do in the first term for ya but break promises? What? How’s that wall? He passed one piece of legislation in 4 years

Wow, he must have trouble getting voters to show up at rallies. Oh wait, never mind.

He does have trouble with this. He pays people for the optics.

It’s a cult and all the sane people can see it

It is beyond terrifying

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Anonymous wrote:Trump supporters- here’s a question. What did Trump do in the first term for ya but break promises? What? How’s that wall? He passed one piece of legislation in 4 years

Wow, he must have trouble getting voters to show up at rallies. Oh wait, never mind.

Oh yes I forgot, there were 8,000 people at that Black church in Detroit that only really holds a few hundred. My mistake.

Remember, trumpians hate facts

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Anonymous wrote:Trump supporters- here’s a question. What did Trump do in the first term for ya but break promises? What? How’s that wall? He passed one piece of legislation in 4 years

Wow, he must have trouble getting voters to show up at rallies. Oh wait, never mind.

Yes, that’s why it’s bizarre. He did nothing for the people at his rallies but break promises to those people. I’m actually happy he broke promises. I didn’t want the wall but those clowns were chanting for it for months. What did he get done for them? Nothing

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Anonymous wrote:Trump supporters- here’s a question. What did Trump do in the first term for ya but break promises? What? How’s that wall? He passed one piece of legislation in 4 years

Wow, he must have trouble getting voters to show up at rallies. Oh wait, never mind.

Oh yes I forgot, there were 8,000 people at that Black church in Detroit that only really holds a few hundred. My mistake.

Anonymous wrote:Trump supporters- here’s a question. What did Trump do in the first term for ya but break promises? What? How’s that wall? He passed one piece of legislation in 4 years

Wow, he must have trouble getting voters to show up at rallies. Oh wait, never mind.

Trump supporters- here’s a question. What did Trump do in the first term for ya but break promises? What? How’s that wall? He passed one piece of legislation in 4 years

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Anonymous wrote:Someone mentioned polling above

The 2016 polling was actually within margin of error

Since then, polling has skewed more heavily R and D’s keep beating polls by multiple points

That is the current trend. We shall see where we land in November

The truth is that Trump is as far behind Biden as he was in 2020. He's at least 4 points behind. But the media and polls want to make this seem like a close race, so they use biased polling models that lean right and show a closer race, maybe even one leaning right for Trump. But both candidates have about the same percentage of their respective party base, so they are neck and neck there. But the reality is that the independent vote leaned slightly left before the Trump judgement in NY and is now leaning even more left after the judgement in NY. And after the debate, when Trump's dementia devolves into more shark, battery and boat stories, the independent vote will lean more left. Trump needs some major media swing by September to stop the slow and steady attrition of his non-base support. Because right now, he's in a slow and steady nickel and diming of the middle 40% of the electorate.

Both of you are clueless.

Trump overperformed 2020 polling. Substantially. Just look at 2020 polls and the final outcomes. RCP has them. The polls were definitely within margin of error for the 2022 midterms. The Ds won almost all the close elections but those were tiny wins. Just look at the polls!

And the last post is either someone trolling or someone delusional.

No, I'm not trolling or delusional. I have just paid attention to the two elections post RvW. In 2022 and 2023, anytime abortion rights have been on the ballot, an unprecedented number of 18-34 year old and suburban women have come out to vote and have voted between 65-85% in favor of abortion rights. And these are people that normally don't vote, so this is not swaying undecided voters to vote a particular way. These are people who normally do not vote or register to vote and have decided based on the issue that is very relevant to their lives, to come out, register and vote to protect abortion rights and the right for people who are of childbearing age to have a right to make their own medical decisions. In Ohio, Kentucky, Kansas and Virginia, these people came out to protect abortion rights. Now, the abortion issue will be on the national agenda, because Biden is pointing out that Trump and the MAGA republicans are going to try for a nationwide ban on abortion rights and once again, these demographics, who are not yet accounted for, will be coming out largely in favor of Biden and the Democrats.

And take note that those who are 26 now, were not legal to vote in the 2016 election. Those that are 22 were not legal to vote in 2020. So, there are many 18-34 year olds who never had the change to vote against Trump and who are going to be very affected by the overturning of RvW that will now be able to vote to protect their rights. And they will come out in record numbers to protect their self-interests.

Trump got many of the conservative fringe like the Oathbreakers, Proud Boys and other militant groups, plus the white supremacists and neo-nazis to come out in 2020 and that was how he got his record number of voters. But there are not that many new ultra-conservative finger types this time around that haven't already been accounted for. Trump is not going to get more popular, only less so between now and November.

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Anonymous wrote:wow, you "Biden is on drugs" people are really something.

Because the man babbling incoherently about sharks and boat batteries is totally with it, right?

We are so effed.

Plus he’s a rapist. This forum has become a MAGA cess pool. Has it been sold? Is there a moderator any more?

Im a democrat and trump hater. Think about what you just said, though and it’s why trump will win. You want a moderated or want someone cancelled for not being in lockstep with you. Cancel culture is why this race is close. I’m a democrat and I’m exhausted by this new liberal party, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously no Biden is not getting replaced

But why isn't there a major panic in the R party about Trump, with calls to replace him?

Trump has clearly declined mentally since 2016, but he's not showing signs of significant dementia. There's no comparison with Biden, who needs a handler constantly to tell him where to go during public events. Biden can't be trusted to do more than read short bits from the teleprompter, and even then he reads the directions out loud.

Also, Republicans are suckers and think Trump will help them instead of himself.

Youre missing the point. Biden can be on life support and he’s getting my vote because only one of these candidates is virtually insane and it’s not Biden

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Anonymous wrote:Someone mentioned polling above

The 2016 polling was actually within margin of error

Since then, polling has skewed more heavily R and D’s keep beating polls by multiple points

That is the current trend. We shall see where we land in November

The truth is that Trump is as far behind Biden as he was in 2020. He's at least 4 points behind. But the media and polls want to make this seem like a close race, so they use biased polling models that lean right and show a closer race, maybe even one leaning right for Trump. But both candidates have about the same percentage of their respective party base, so they are neck and neck there. But the reality is that the independent vote leaned slightly left before the Trump judgement in NY and is now leaning even more left after the judgement in NY. And after the debate, when Trump's dementia devolves into more shark, battery and boat stories, the independent vote will lean more left. Trump needs some major media swing by September to stop the slow and steady attrition of his non-base support. Because right now, he's in a slow and steady nickel and diming of the middle 40% of the electorate.

Both of you are clueless.

Trump overperformed 2020 polling. Substantially. Just look at 2020 polls and the final outcomes. RCP has them. The polls were definitely within margin of error for the 2022 midterms. The Ds won almost all the close elections but those were tiny wins. Just look at the polls!

And the last post is either someone trolling or someone delusional.

So, in other words, the polls are garbage, regardless of whether the show Trump or Biden ahead. I agree, which is what I have posted every time someone goes on to the polling thread crowing about how Trump is leading. And someone better tell all the patriots who are girding to start a civil war because Trump is ahead in the polls and may yet not win the election.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone mentioned polling above

The 2016 polling was actually within margin of error

Since then, polling has skewed more heavily R and D’s keep beating polls by multiple points

That is the current trend. We shall see where we land in November

The truth is that Trump is as far behind Biden as he was in 2020. He's at least 4 points behind. But the media and polls want to make this seem like a close race, so they use biased polling models that lean right and show a closer race, maybe even one leaning right for Trump. But both candidates have about the same percentage of their respective party base, so they are neck and neck there. But the reality is that the independent vote leaned slightly left before the Trump judgement in NY and is now leaning even more left after the judgement in NY. And after the debate, when Trump's dementia devolves into more shark, battery and boat stories, the independent vote will lean more left. Trump needs some major media swing by September to stop the slow and steady attrition of his non-base support. Because right now, he's in a slow and steady nickel and diming of the middle 40% of the electorate.

Both of you are clueless.

Trump overperformed 2020 polling. Substantially. Just look at 2020 polls and the final outcomes. RCP has them. The polls were definitely within margin of error for the 2022 midterms. The Ds won almost all the close elections but those were tiny wins. Just look at the polls!

And the last post is either someone trolling or someone delusional.