Anonymous
06/04/2024 16:48
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teaching seems like such a straightforward job when you aren’t in it. So much convoluted nonsense in a job that should be “plan the lessons, teach the kids.”
plan the lessons,
teach the kids
if it were only that easy.
gotta grade papers constantly to give immediate feedback; do that for 28 kids times 5 periods and that's 140 grades per task...
call parents, counselors, admin to update on students who are not passing
go to meetings before, during, after school and on your planning periods that include IEPs, evals, and LSCs; parent/teacher conferences, department meetings; CT meetings; PD meetings; staff meetings; etc.
attend school events; do hallway or cafeteria watch duty
stay afterschool twice a week to offer students support out of the class and to make up or retake assessments
printing/copying, preparing and reflecting on lesson plans
deal with students who are absent or consistently on their phones or take longer bathroom breaks or don't return from lunch on time
take attendance and update it
remediate and reteach content
make sure to have classroom stocked with school supplies because kids can't afford to bring them to class but yet they are on their smartphones
***
there is a lot you left out between planning a lesson and teach the students.
I didn’t mean to make it seem like you didn’t do much. I just mean was it always this complicated of a job?
Anonymous
06/04/2024 16:40
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Teaching seems like such a straightforward job when you aren’t in it. So much convoluted nonsense in a job that should be “plan the lessons, teach the kids.”
plan the lessons,
teach the kids
if it were only that easy.
gotta grade papers constantly to give immediate feedback; do that for 28 kids times 5 periods and that's 140 grades per task...
call parents, counselors, admin to update on students who are not passing
go to meetings before, during, after school and on your planning periods that include IEPs, evals, and LSCs; parent/teacher conferences, department meetings; CT meetings; PD meetings; staff meetings; etc.
attend school events; do hallway or cafeteria watch duty
stay afterschool twice a week to offer students support out of the class and to make up or retake assessments
printing/copying, preparing and reflecting on lesson plans
deal with students who are absent or consistently on their phones or take longer bathroom breaks or don't return from lunch on time
take attendance and update it
remediate and reteach content
make sure to have classroom stocked with school supplies because kids can't afford to bring them to class but yet they are on their smartphones
***
there is a lot you left out between planning a lesson and teach the students.
… and, if you’re lucky, you get about 45 uninterrupted minutes to get all of that planning / grading / calling / emailing / meeting / eating lunch done each day.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 16:27
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Teaching seems like such a straightforward job when you aren’t in it. So much convoluted nonsense in a job that should be “plan the lessons, teach the kids.”
plan the lessons,
teach the kids
if it were only that easy.
gotta grade papers constantly to give immediate feedback; do that for 28 kids times 5 periods and that's 140 grades per task...
call parents, counselors, admin to update on students who are not passing
go to meetings before, during, after school and on your planning periods that include IEPs, evals, and LSCs; parent/teacher conferences, department meetings; CT meetings; PD meetings; staff meetings; etc.
attend school events; do hallway or cafeteria watch duty
stay afterschool twice a week to offer students support out of the class and to make up or retake assessments
printing/copying, preparing and reflecting on lesson plans
deal with students who are absent or consistently on their phones or take longer bathroom breaks or don't return from lunch on time
take attendance and update it
remediate and reteach content
make sure to have classroom stocked with school supplies because kids can't afford to bring them to class but yet they are on their smartphones
***
there is a lot you left out between planning a lesson and teach the students.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 16:17
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:until SPED has its own payscale that is different and more than the regular teacher payscale, no one should take a SPED teacher position.
SPED teachers have to be a teacher + case manager + following IEP goals and accommodations/modifications + in some cases has to be collaborative teacher in team taught classes thus sharing teaching roles with gen ed teachers.
SPED teachers are severely underpaid.
They are on different scales.
It’s about 6000 dollars more a year on the extended day scale
no one is on that extended day schedule. unless you are someone's Gatehouse concubine.
I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but as a special education teacher (who is no one's concubine), I assure you that the pay bump is real and I am taking that extra $ from the extended day contract as long as they will give it to me. (Although raising the pay scale would be the better option as it would be more permanent)
wow i have been teaching sped for 6 years and not once have i been on an extended day contract and neither have my sped counterparts/colleagues.
i wonder what kinda moonlighting you must be doing with your admin team to be given such a contract.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 15:59
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Teaching seems like such a straightforward job when you aren’t in it. So much convoluted nonsense in a job that should be “plan the lessons, teach the kids.”
Anonymous
06/04/2024 15:34
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two: One general ed teacher is retiring and one SPED teacher is leaving.
Losing a SPED teacher is tough; they’re hard to replace.
At one time I truly loved being a SPED teacher~those days are done...I left and have not looked back.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 15:06
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Two: One general ed teacher is retiring and one SPED teacher is leaving.
Losing a SPED teacher is tough; they’re hard to replace.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 13:48
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:until SPED has its own payscale that is different and more than the regular teacher payscale, no one should take a SPED teacher position.
SPED teachers have to be a teacher + case manager + following IEP goals and accommodations/modifications + in some cases has to be collaborative teacher in team taught classes thus sharing teaching roles with gen ed teachers.
SPED teachers are severely underpaid.
A lot of teachers will tell you it isn’t about the pay. It’s the disrespect and the poor working conditions. Fix those.
So true. Teachers who have been around for a while and have pretty decent salaries (>100K) are leaving before retirement age. And the working conditions *should* be much easier to fix than pay!
Sometimes it's like Gatehouse knows what could help working conditions.... but goes in the complete opposite direction....and more people leave.
It feels intentional.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 12:02
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:until SPED has its own payscale that is different and more than the regular teacher payscale, no one should take a SPED teacher position.
SPED teachers have to be a teacher + case manager + following IEP goals and accommodations/modifications + in some cases has to be collaborative teacher in team taught classes thus sharing teaching roles with gen ed teachers.
SPED teachers are severely underpaid.
They are on different scales.
It’s about 6000 dollars more a year on the extended day scale
I thought the extra amount “extended day” for sped teachers was 30 minutes extra per day and that amount is related to your current pay scale.
Anonymous
06/04/2024 08:40
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:until SPED has its own payscale that is different and more than the regular teacher payscale, no one should take a SPED teacher position.
SPED teachers have to be a teacher + case manager + following IEP goals and accommodations/modifications + in some cases has to be collaborative teacher in team taught classes thus sharing teaching roles with gen ed teachers.
SPED teachers are severely underpaid.
A lot of teachers will tell you it isn’t about the pay. It’s the disrespect and the poor working conditions. Fix those.
It’s 84 degrees in my room today, a regular occurrence when it’s over 75 outside. Report it to the office and the excuses flow- your blinds need to be down, you opened the window so it threw off the thermostat, your desktop thermometer is inaccurate- they told me last week that 28 kids with laptops on was causing it to be so hot.
The unwillingness to even listen to basic things like this…
Anonymous
06/03/2024 21:42
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:until SPED has its own payscale that is different and more than the regular teacher payscale, no one should take a SPED teacher position.
SPED teachers have to be a teacher + case manager + following IEP goals and accommodations/modifications + in some cases has to be collaborative teacher in team taught classes thus sharing teaching roles with gen ed teachers.
SPED teachers are severely underpaid.
They are on different scales.
It’s about 6000 dollars more a year on the extended day scale
no one is on that extended day schedule. unless you are someone's Gatehouse concubine.
I'm not sure where you are getting your information, but as a special education teacher (who is no one's concubine), I assure you that the pay bump is real and I am taking that extra $ from the extended day contract as long as they will give it to me. (Although raising the pay scale would be the better option as it would be more permanent)
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:45
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:until SPED has its own payscale that is different and more than the regular teacher payscale, no one should take a SPED teacher position.
SPED teachers have to be a teacher + case manager + following IEP goals and accommodations/modifications + in some cases has to be collaborative teacher in team taught classes thus sharing teaching roles with gen ed teachers.
SPED teachers are severely underpaid.
A lot of teachers will tell you it isn’t about the pay. It’s the disrespect and the poor working conditions. Fix those.
So true. Teachers who have been around for a while and have pretty decent salaries (>100K) are leaving before retirement age. And the working conditions *should* be much easier to fix than pay!
Sometimes it's like Gatehouse knows what could help working conditions.... but goes in the complete opposite direction....and more people leave.
As much as we like to dunk on Gatehouse (and they deserve it), this is national problem. It’s going to take a state and national policy overhaul to solve it.
Agree to an extent. Gatehouse has ways they can alleviate some stress and unnecessary tasks for teachers. They often go the other way and pile it on. Not smart during a national teacher shortage. But agree the problem is bigger than all of us.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:40
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:until SPED has its own payscale that is different and more than the regular teacher payscale, no one should take a SPED teacher position.
SPED teachers have to be a teacher + case manager + following IEP goals and accommodations/modifications + in some cases has to be collaborative teacher in team taught classes thus sharing teaching roles with gen ed teachers.
SPED teachers are severely underpaid.
A lot of teachers will tell you it isn’t about the pay. It’s the disrespect and the poor working conditions. Fix those.
So true. Teachers who have been around for a while and have pretty decent salaries (>100K) are leaving before retirement age. And the working conditions *should* be much easier to fix than pay!
Sometimes it's like Gatehouse knows what could help working conditions.... but goes in the complete opposite direction....and more people leave.
As much as we like to dunk on Gatehouse (and they deserve it), this is national problem. It’s going to take a state and national policy overhaul to solve it.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:35
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:until SPED has its own payscale that is different and more than the regular teacher payscale, no one should take a SPED teacher position.
SPED teachers have to be a teacher + case manager + following IEP goals and accommodations/modifications + in some cases has to be collaborative teacher in team taught classes thus sharing teaching roles with gen ed teachers.
SPED teachers are severely underpaid.
A lot of teachers will tell you it isn’t about the pay. It’s the disrespect and the poor working conditions. Fix those.
So true. Teachers who have been around for a while and have pretty decent salaries (>100K) are leaving before retirement age. And the working conditions *should* be much easier to fix than pay!
Sometimes it's like Gatehouse knows what could help working conditions.... but goes in the complete opposite direction....and more people leave.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:32
Subject: How many teachers are leaving your school next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:until SPED has its own payscale that is different and more than the regular teacher payscale, no one should take a SPED teacher position.
SPED teachers have to be a teacher + case manager + following IEP goals and accommodations/modifications + in some cases has to be collaborative teacher in team taught classes thus sharing teaching roles with gen ed teachers.
SPED teachers are severely underpaid.
A lot of teachers will tell you it isn’t about the pay. It’s the disrespect and the poor working conditions. Fix those.
This and total lack of support from admin