Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 16:55     Subject: We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Socialism works great, until you run out of other peoples money.


The poor in this country pay more in taxes than the wealthiest. I believe we learned that during the investigation into Trump's taxes. Taking care of people when they put into the system is not socialism, it's called advancement & effectiveness.


Your attempts to divert a conversation about serious violent crime issues in DC makes you an enabler. This is not a thread about taxes or the bronze dude. Try harder to stay on topic or start your own thread.


Poverty and over-taxing is directly related to crime. When you have a group of people continuously being oppressed, you can expect them to return the favor through crime.

-DC just started investing in rebuilding the schools and its curriculum in the past 20 years. Prior to that, District schools were underfunded and the buildings were falling apart, who can learn or be encouraged in such conditions? (Teachers were unqualified, inadequate textbooks and curriculum, understaffed schools) And no, I don't care what immigrants do in other countries.

-DC also took forever to rebuild communities after the riots. Many rioters were outsiders during the 60s and 70s.

-Prior to Marion Barry, DC routinely refused to hire African Americans into government jobs so that they could move up the economic ladder. You had to take a civil exam, but how could one pass if your school did not have resources for textbooks and an adequate curriculum?

- Lead poisoning has been found in DC water and places where lower-income people reside affecting brain development.

-The minimum wage in the 90s was about $4 or $5, who can survive from basic wage theft by largely a capitalistic system?

- Prior to the summer youth employment program and other such programs, many poor were left without hope. Desperate people, take desperate measures.




This is straight up BS. It is extremely racist and classist to link poverty to crime.

It's also dumb. Look upthread to how crime is plummeting in nearby. Baltimore.

Off to your DSA meeting now. Loon.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 16:33     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Instances like that video of the attack on a congresswoman at her DC apartment building earlier this year, really made me contemplate how we address both mental health issues and violent crime. would argue that we need to bring back institutionalized mental health centers, just more in a holistic, community setting and without the raping/abuse and better oversight.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 16:19     Subject: We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Socialism works great, until you run out of other peoples money.


The poor in this country pay more in taxes than the wealthiest. I believe we learned that during the investigation into Trump's taxes. Taking care of people when they put into the system is not socialism, it's called advancement & effectiveness.


Your attempts to divert a conversation about serious violent crime issues in DC makes you an enabler. This is not a thread about taxes or the bronze dude. Try harder to stay on topic or start your own thread.


Poverty and over-taxing is directly related to crime. When you have a group of people continuously being oppressed, you can expect them to return the favor through crime.

-DC just started investing in rebuilding the schools and its curriculum in the past 20 years. Prior to that, District schools were underfunded and the buildings were falling apart, who can learn or be encouraged in such conditions? (Teachers were unqualified, inadequate textbooks and curriculum, understaffed schools) And no, I don't care what immigrants do in other countries.

-DC also took forever to rebuild communities after the riots. Many rioters were outsiders during the 60s and 70s.

-Prior to Marion Barry, DC routinely refused to hire African Americans into government jobs so that they could move up the economic ladder. You had to take a civil exam, but how could one pass if your school did not have resources for textbooks and an adequate curriculum?

- Lead poisoning has been found in DC water and places where lower-income people reside affecting brain development.

-The minimum wage in the 90s was about $4 or $5, who can survive from basic wage theft by largely a capitalistic system?

- Prior to the summer youth employment program and other such programs, many poor were left without hope. Desperate people, take desperate measures.


Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 15:07     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids ride metro. This actually does NOT make me feel better. The lawlessness in the system was directly fomented by the DC Council. It was silly when a teen was arrested for eating french fries but now we are at crack smoking on the red line during rush hour, many violent crimes and this



It wasn't silly when you got tickets for eating french fries..it kept metro clean. There was a reason for it. I grew up with that and it worked..metro has spiraled.


But she didn't get a ticket, she was arrested and put in handcuffs and that now seems quite silly in light of shootings in the system, stabbings, violence at major hubs during commuting hours no less, drug use on the trains (even heading to Bethesda, hard drugs smoked too) and the presence of many deadly weapons in the system. Maybe a broken windows approach used to keep a lid on the mayhem.

Again, the serious problems in the metro began with the actions of the DC Council who not only decriminalized fare evasion (despite kids getting free transit cards and cards being made available to the poor) but made even that not enforceable by not requiring ID and a name to be provided.

Now, DC Council members are finishing out the year by bestowing the honor of a seat on the Sentencing Commission on one of the most depraved of murderers.

We are FAR past having the luxury to worry about french fries, look at the weapons seized by metro police. Not only are DCMPD short staffed but they are pulled to work even more OT moonlighting in metro stations to supplement WMATA police and in grocery stores.

Not only are the trends not reversing, the brazenness and contempt of the Council's action toward victims and their loved ones, and the attempts to hide it, speak volumes.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 15:06     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people need to go outside and live a little or move. These scaremongering threads everyday is tiresome.

Crime happens everywhere, particularly in inner cities. The city needs to invest in a higher minimum wage, educational opportunities and the supporting of whole families.
Putting more people in jail in the 22nd century is barbaric.


I could support modern “chain” /work gangs as a way to knock time off of a long sentence. May as well have the prisoners doing useful maintenance or roadside cleaning to offset some of the cost of housing and feeding them.


Your racist mask is showing, we won't be going back to the slavery era. So you might as well stop wishing and hoping. Even prisoners in Europe and Russia are not barbaric enough to place people on chain gangs. PP, your low class breeding is seeping out.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 14:55     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:My kids ride metro. This actually does NOT make me feel better. The lawlessness in the system was directly fomented by the DC Council. It was silly when a teen was arrested for eating french fries but now we are at crack smoking on the red line during rush hour, many violent crimes and this



It wasn't silly when you got tickets for eating french fries..it kept metro clean. There was a reason for it. I grew up with that and it worked..metro has spiraled.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 14:31     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You people need to go outside and live a little or move. These scaremongering threads everyday is tiresome.

Crime happens everywhere, particularly in inner cities. The city needs to invest in a higher minimum wage, educational opportunities and the supporting of whole families.
Putting more people in jail in the 22nd century is barbaric.


I could support modern “chain” /work gangs as a way to knock time off of a long sentence. May as well have the prisoners doing useful maintenance or roadside cleaning to offset some of the cost of housing and feeding them.
Progressive screeching in 3...2...1...
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 14:16     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:You people need to go outside and live a little or move. These scaremongering threads everyday is tiresome.

Crime happens everywhere, particularly in inner cities. The city needs to invest in a higher minimum wage, educational opportunities and the supporting of whole families.
Putting more people in jail in the 22nd century is barbaric.


I could support modern “chain” /work gangs as a way to knock time off of a long sentence. May as well have the prisoners doing useful maintenance or roadside cleaning to offset some of the cost of housing and feeding them.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 14:04     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Not a huge Matt Y fan but he's not wrong about this



Not only re: traffic but management of public spaces.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 13:55     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
The DC Council not only writes laws benefiting criminals they literally elevate the most depraved of murderers to a role on the Sentencing Commission.

This follows on a year when a DC crime bill was struck down by Congress and a D president. Did they experience a bit of humility at that smack down, introspection, concern for the overwhelmingly poor and black victims of crime? Nope.

Crime is soaring, in direct contradiction to trends in other D cities, including nearby Baltimore. Maybe they can reboot The Wire and base it here.

It doesn't seem to be getting better in any genuine sense and the committee nomination is quite revealing as are the machinations to try to hide it.

We are hoping to move after 30+ years EoTP. Invested in the city, & in DCPS but can no longer ignore the reality.

Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 13:30     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:My kids ride metro. This actually does NOT make me feel better. The lawlessness in the system was directly fomented by the DC Council. It was silly when a teen was arrested for eating french fries but now we are at crack smoking on the red line during rush hour, many violent crimes and this



Enforcing the no-eating ban wasn’t silly. Metro is gross and unsanitary now because people leave food garbage behind on train seats and floors. Metro used to be the envy of other cities. Now there are Third World subways systems that are more reliable, safer, and cleaner than ol’ Dee-Cee’s.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 13:23     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:You people need to go outside and live a little or move. These scaremongering threads everyday is tiresome.

Crime happens everywhere, particularly in inner cities. The city needs to invest in a higher minimum wage, educational opportunities and the supporting of whole families.
Putting more people in jail in the 22nd century is barbaric.


Your head is in the sand. The ridiculous crime after 2020 is declining nationwide except for in our DC neighborhoods.

Criminals are smart enough to see there a zero consequences for crime and crime does pay. Only a sucker pays for metro or doesn't have fake tags at this point.
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 13:13     Subject: We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Socialism works great, until you run out of other peoples money.


The poor in this country pay more in taxes than the wealthiest. I believe we learned that during the investigation into Trump's taxes. Taking care of people when they put into the system is not socialism, it's called advancement & effectiveness.
"It's not Marxism! It's just giving everyone what they need and having them do what they can." -Progressives
Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 13:10     Subject: Re:We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
My kids ride metro. This actually does NOT make me feel better. The lawlessness in the system was directly fomented by the DC Council. It was silly when a teen was arrested for eating french fries but now we are at crack smoking on the red line during rush hour, many violent crimes and this

Anonymous
Post 12/28/2023 13:08     Subject: We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Socialism works great, until you run out of other peoples money.


The poor in this country pay more in taxes than the wealthiest. I believe we learned that during the investigation into Trump's taxes. Taking care of people when they put into the system is not socialism, it's called advancement & effectiveness.


Your attempts to divert a conversation about serious violent crime issues in DC makes you an enabler. This is not a thread about taxes or the bronze dude. Try harder to stay on topic or start your own thread.