Anonymous wrote:Apparently Youngkin is refusing to acknowledge that voters have rejected his proposal for a "reasonable abortion ban" and wants to keep moving forward with that (how, I have no idea). WaPo reports:

"He did not, however, back down from his stance on abortion or concede that a 15-week ban was rejected by voters. 'Hopefully the dialogue we started can continue,' he said, when asked about it by reporters. 'I do think that the fact that we tried to find a place to bring Virginians together will be a lesson that there is a place that Virginians can come together, there is a place that Americans can come together.'

He is still trying to stay relevant in the national spotlight, he is signaling to evangelicals that he still wants to do what they want. Virginians are not interested in "coming together" on abortion when the current law seems to work for the overwhelming majority of Virginians. It ain't broke for us, nothing needs to change. His rigidity on this is disturbing.

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin is amazing. He’s the only one who can bridge traditional GOP conservatives, MAGA and soccer mom swing voters.

Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as a reasonable ban when it comes to a woman's body. A woman should have the right to control her own body and her own life at ALL times. PERIOD. Why is this so difficult to understand? Men do it.

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Anonymous wrote:Time for the pivot from abortion limits to trans athletes in HD sports.

How about just trying to make people's lives a little better?

Anonymous wrote:Apparently Youngkin is refusing to acknowledge that voters have rejected his proposal for a "reasonable abortion ban" and wants to keep moving forward with that (how, I have no idea). WaPo reports:

"He did not, however, back down from his stance on abortion or concede that a 15-week ban was rejected by voters. 'Hopefully the dialogue we started can continue,' he said, when asked about it by reporters. 'I do think that the fact that we tried to find a place to bring Virginians together will be a lesson that there is a place that Virginians can come together, there is a place that Americans can come together.'

He is still trying to stay relevant in the national spotlight, he is signaling to evangelicals that he still wants to do what they want. Virginians are not interested in "coming together" on abortion when the current law seems to work for the overwhelming majority of Virginians. It ain't broke for us, nothing needs to change. His rigidity on this is disturbing.

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin is amazing. He’s the only one who can bridge traditional GOP conservatives, MAGA and soccer mom swing voters.

Anonymous wrote:Time for the pivot from abortion limits to trans athletes in HD sports.

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Anonymous wrote:So far VA continues to reassure me that the inmates have not yet taken over the asylum. If/when that happens, we are out. That fact that but for NoVA the commonwealth would be a red state is still very unnerving though.

There are strong areas of blue everywhere. Richmond, Norfolk, VA Beach, hell, Dems may still win HD-41 in rural VA. When Dems contest every seat, we force Rs to compete. I canvassed in some very rural places. Sane people are widespread throughout the state. Please don't be a NoVA snob.

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, Youngkin clearly had higher aspirations and made some sort of faustian bargain that if he could deliver a republican victory and get an abortion ban passed in Virginia, he would run for president and the evangelical base would line up behind him.

He repeated, ad naseum, that Virginians wanted to be a national leader in showing the country what "reasonable abortion restrictions" are. I can't think of anyone who says: "you know what keeps me up at night, not the economy, or housing costs, or school issues, or my kids, or the job market, but whether or not my state of Virginian can be a national leader on reasonable abortion restrictions! I can't sleep." Youngkin acted as if this was THE only issue Virginians cared about, that it was a statewide concern. I suspect his same strategists from the campaign carefully crafted these talking points, and he stuck to them like flies on $hit.

From my online research only about 20% of Virginians claim to be evangelical, leaving 80% not. His claims made no sense, and his "disappointment" is insincere. Politico did a short podcast with his gubernatorial strategists right after the 2021 election that I found fascinating into his "branding". And this latest 15 week shenanigans plays right into it. Here is the link. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/05/glenn-youngkin-republican-strategists-519609

Weird that you would say that. Abortion seems to be very much the ONE issue that Democrats obsess over.

Wrong. Virginians aren't thinking about setting a national standard of "reasonable abortion restrictions" because the current law works just fine and nothing needs to change. So no, Virginia democrats (or Republicans for that matter) are not sitting around obsessing about how Virginia needs more restrictions to be a national trailblazer in setting what Youngkin has coined as "reasonable abortion restrictions" when the current status quo works. Period. End of story. And to talk to us like he was giving us what we wanted, is treating Virginians like we are stupid. Nothing needs to change, it's fine as is. But acting like all these "focus groups" told the governor in fact that is a top priority for Virginian (adding restrictions) is from another planet.

Abortion after 12 weeks is an outdated procedure as everyone can have access to birth control and it's not needed. It's the same reason labodomy is outlawed now that we have new meds and technology.

How fortunate for you, that you, your family, or your friends don't have personal experience with hemorrhage, pre-eclampsia, placental abruption, sepsis, or any of the other myriad causes of terminal diagnoses of the fetus or dangers to the health of the mother that can and do take place during a pregnancy after 12 weeks. Pregnancy isn't always sunshine and rainbows and healthy, living babies and moms at the end. Things can and do go horribly wrong.

Which is why women need access to healthcare. So they can make the best healthcare decisions with their doctor. Not with some random legislator dudes who don’t understand the female reproductive system.

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Anonymous wrote:Very glad my fellow Virginia voters said no to the GOP’s perverted obsession with genitals and what people do with them and birth from them and read about them. Try focusing on real issues when you’re talking in public, hmm? Keep the weird sex stuff at church.

Oh, the irony. The total lack of self-awareness. Dems are the ones who WANT their favored graphically sexual books to be available in school libraries. Not Rs. How about you keep your weird sex stuff out of our schools?

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Anonymous wrote:IMO, Youngkin clearly had higher aspirations and made some sort of faustian bargain that if he could deliver a republican victory and get an abortion ban passed in Virginia, he would run for president and the evangelical base would line up behind him.

He repeated, ad naseum, that Virginians wanted to be a national leader in showing the country what "reasonable abortion restrictions" are. I can't think of anyone who says: "you know what keeps me up at night, not the economy, or housing costs, or school issues, or my kids, or the job market, but whether or not my state of Virginian can be a national leader on reasonable abortion restrictions! I can't sleep." Youngkin acted as if this was THE only issue Virginians cared about, that it was a statewide concern. I suspect his same strategists from the campaign carefully crafted these talking points, and he stuck to them like flies on $hit.

From my online research only about 20% of Virginians claim to be evangelical, leaving 80% not. His claims made no sense, and his "disappointment" is insincere. Politico did a short podcast with his gubernatorial strategists right after the 2021 election that I found fascinating into his "branding". And this latest 15 week shenanigans plays right into it. Here is the link. https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/05/glenn-youngkin-republican-strategists-519609

Weird that you would say that. Abortion seems to be very much the ONE issue that Democrats obsess over.

Wrong. Virginians aren't thinking about setting a national standard of "reasonable abortion restrictions" because the current law works just fine and nothing needs to change. So no, Virginia democrats (or Republicans for that matter) are not sitting around obsessing about how Virginia needs more restrictions to be a national trailblazer in setting what Youngkin has coined as "reasonable abortion restrictions" when the current status quo works. Period. End of story. And to talk to us like he was giving us what we wanted, is treating Virginians like we are stupid. Nothing needs to change, it's fine as is. But acting like all these "focus groups" told the governor in fact that is a top priority for Virginian (adding restrictions) is from another planet.

Abortion after 12 weeks is an outdated procedure as everyone can have access to birth control and it's not needed. It's the same reason labodomy is outlawed now that we have new meds and technology.

How fortunate for you, that you, your family, or your friends don't have personal experience with hemorrhage, pre-eclampsia, placental abruption, sepsis, or any of the other myriad causes of terminal diagnoses of the fetus or dangers to the health of the mother that can and do take place during a pregnancy after 12 weeks. Pregnancy isn't always sunshine and rainbows and healthy, living babies and moms at the end. Things can and do go horribly wrong.