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Anonymous wrote:They just want to see the battlefield gone

They always have corporate interests.

Unlike the Rs who fought against tax cuts for millionaires? Oh wait…

Two things can be true at once. You should upgrade your computer screen from black and white to color.

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Anonymous wrote:They just want to see the battlefield gone

They always have corporate interests.

Unlike the Rs who fought against tax cuts for millionaires? Oh wait…

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They always have corporate interests.

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Anonymous wrote:When the Dems in PWC lose in November they have no one to blame but themselves. If I was a Dem strategist I'd yell at them to give it up and focus on actual issues that people like about Dems, such as school lunches, infrastucture, sick pay, protecting democracy, advocating for marginalized communities. etc.

Such a bummer, since Trump was elected I stopped voting R but I will hold my nose and vote R this November.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Dem in Fairfax and seeing how the Dems in PWC have handled the data center issue is disappointing to say the least. I love hiking at Manassas Battlefield with my dogs and I go once a week if the weather cooperates with me. If you look at the park map there are so many areas that get overlooked and you can practically have the park to yourself.

Proposing to build massive ugly, soulless boxes that make tons of noise right next to that is so insane. I mean its straight out of the evil Republican playbook yet D's are the ones pushing it. It's so confusing to me. I don't blame people for turning to R's for the solution.

They are shooting themselves in the foot over a very stupid issue. They should have realized it's unpopular and looked for other ways to increase tax revenue. Don't run for these positions if you're not willing to take on challenges and get creative.

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.

When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.

Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.

That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.

They're not mutually exclusive categories.

Of course not, when it suits your purpose.

They are suburbs that are far out. You've really never heard of "exurbs"?

But I guess if you want to play victim, go ahead.

I’m not exactly sure how anyone is playing victim. I love it out here, and wouldn’t move back closer in for any amount of money. But don’t get it twisted, it’s same exurbs that everyone on here takes great pains most of the time to disdainfully point out are rural. You just don’t like that the Dems position on data centers is one that costs them votes.

Wahhhh. They call my town suburbs *and* the sticks. Poor me.

Wahhhh. They don’t like data centers in their communities and won’t support Dem candidates that are in favor of them. Poor me. That’s how you do this, right?

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Anonymous wrote:My predictions:

Fairfax County:
Dems maintain supermajority on the board, although they lose 1-3 seats on the school board.

Stella Pekarsky underperforms but still wins somewhat easily. She has SB baggage weighing her down. I think Saundra Davis and Debra Tisler will be the seats R's gain on the SB. MAYBE Dranesville surprises us by electing an R SB member or board member, highly doubt it though.

Braddock school board seat is the sleeper pick for R's, I really doubt it though. Sizemore was a somewhat more reasonable person on the school board but is still associated with that so I could see the R candidate overperforming.

Loudoun:
True tossup with a wide range of outcomes. R's do very well, flip the CA's office, SB, and BoS. D's do very well and hold on to everything. Legit unpredictable and no one is truly talking about it.

Prince William:
Western part of the county will be great for R's due to data center issue, eastern part will be good for D's.

You're spot on with this. Western PWC seems like suburban area in Nova that hasn't really drifted to the left that much. Wonder why that is considering it's educated and UMC.

We are in eastern Fauquier bordering western PWC, and data centers are a huge issue out here that leads many of us to vote R for our local officials. We are educated and UMC, and generally have considered ourselves to be moderate. Many of us that moved out here from close in were never left enough to begin with to pull this area appreciably to the left. It remains centrist and frankly that’s part of why we like it here.

While I do think there should be strict zoning/environments restrictions, I don't think we should prevent more data centers from being built. They provide a huge source of revenue for Loudoun (and have been a catalyst for growth). Who do you think is paying for all of the new schools/infrastructure that you are using?

Out here the idea of becoming the next Loudoun is part of what is putting people off on the data centers. For many of us who live out here, we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way. We could have moved to Ashburn if that’s what we wanted. Fauquier does not have any existing data centers at this point, so they are not paying for anything currently.

The buildings that you and "many of us" live in - when were those buildings built?

When my house was built has no bearing on the data center argument, but keep digging in, you are demonstrating why Rs have a stronghold here.

When your house was built has a lot of bearing on the "we came here knowing it was more rural than suburban and want to keep it that way" thing.

It was built in the 90s, so not a new build. There is a nice mix out here of rural and pockets of more suburban like housing developments. Yes, there has obviously been development out here since the 80s (I have friends that are lifelong residents and talk about what it used to be like when they grew up). I think they’ve done a good job out here of balancing the interests of development and keeping the rural qualities of the area, but data centers upset that balance.

Oh, ok. You live in the exurbs. Formerly rural, now suburban.

Vienna and Reston are suburban, this area would in no way be confused with those places.

That doesn't mean your area isn't also suburban.

DCUM: OMG anything outside of Fairfax in VA is the sticks!
Also DCUM when it suits a political argument: The areas outside of Fairfax are the suburbs.

They're not mutually exclusive categories.

Of course not, when it suits your purpose.

They are suburbs that are far out. You've really never heard of "exurbs"?

But I guess if you want to play victim, go ahead.

I’m not exactly sure how anyone is playing victim. I love it out here, and wouldn’t move back closer in for any amount of money. But don’t get it twisted, it’s same exurbs that everyone on here takes great pains most of the time to disdainfully point out are rural. You just don’t like that the Dems position on data centers is one that costs them votes.

Wahhhh. They call my town suburbs *and* the sticks. Poor me.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems outside of PWC can't believe that the data center issue is costing them votes. I voted for Weir and I typically vote Dem. Ann Wheeler was the biggest letdown. I was so excited when she won in 2019. She lives in Haymarket and also invested in a company that has proposed building next to the battlefield.

I’m a D outside of PWC and wish that the Ds there would focus on environmental protections around the physical facility as well as power and water needs.

I don’t think Rs would address those concerns. And certainly wouldn’t want any MAGA loons.

Anonymous wrote:Dems outside of PWC can't believe that the data center issue is costing them votes. I voted for Weir and I typically vote Dem. Ann Wheeler was the biggest letdown. I was so excited when she won in 2019. She lives in Haymarket and also invested in a company that has proposed building next to the battlefield.