Anonymous
09/18/2023 03:30
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
And somehow Duke went up - the epitome of rich school anti social mobility with the lowest percent of pell grants among the top 20 privates
Anonymous
09/18/2023 03:20
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
CU Boulder is NOT Prime Time...105.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 03:14
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
USNews changed the methodology to such a degree to makes these rankings almost useless. Thinks like class size or the academic qualifications of instructors no longer matter. At all. What really matters are the graduation rates of Pelll Grant recipients. Maybe that matters to you. But for most families, it's not something they're looking at when determining the quality of a university.
So a large state like California with a lot of income disparity in their public colleges is going to do great in these measurements..All the UCs - with the exception of Merced - are now top 35 schools. UC Irvine is ranked higher than NYU and Tufts. Rutgers is a top 40 school now. And Wake Forest drops nearly 20 spots to 47.
USNews is no longer measuring the academic quality of schools, but their perceived "social good." It such be read as such.
So a large state like California with a lot of income disparity in their public colleges is going to do great in these measurements..All the UCs - with the exception of Merced - are now top 35 schools. UC Irvine is ranked higher than NYU and Tufts. Rutgers is a top 40 school now. And Wake Forest drops nearly 20 spots to 47.
USNews is no longer measuring the academic quality of schools, but their perceived "social good." It such be read as such.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 01:44
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Umich safety school at #21 LOL
Anonymous
09/18/2023 01:41
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250.
People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!
With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.
+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!
Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?
The reality is that these lower UC schools are getting excellent students so maybe they really belong in T30.
And they educate them like cattle, and with the exception of UCLA, provide no housing.
Wait. UCLA has had serious housing issues. Google it
They did, but they built more.
Just this year! After screams from students and parents about obscene rents and no promise of guaranteed housing. It was a series in the LA Times! UCLA has been scrambling ever since
!! March 17, 2022 the LA Times blared “Housing crisis for 16,000 at UCLA”!
No one can build that fast. Especially in Westwood. Also UCLA is landlocked. What the regents did was to spend the taxpayers money and try to find hotels and existing apartments wherever they could and crab kids in them make promises that some sort of “housing” would be assured
Unless you link the actual article, I believe you are confusing it with Berkeley or UCSB. Both of these campuses have major housing issues. UCLA has guaranteed 4 years of housing for at least 5 years now. You maybe in a cramped place but you will have place to live.
I can’t access the LA Times pieces due to paywalls but here’s a 2023 Bruin piece on what the problems are at UCLA and what is being done to help. https://dailybruin.com/2023/02/02/op-ed-ucla-must-further-address-housing-affordability-to-increase-educational-equity#
Anonymous
09/18/2023 01:37
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Some interesting shifts for crosstown bragging rights: Northwestern over Chicago. Da ouch. BC over Tufts. Wicked ouch. Columbia now tied with Cornell in battle of NY. Go ouch yourself!
Is this first time for UVA to be looking up at UNC? Get off Mr. Jefferson’s ouching grounds!
Is this first time for UVA to be looking up at UNC? Get off Mr. Jefferson’s ouching grounds!
Anonymous
09/18/2023 01:34
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250
People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!
With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.
+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!
Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?
The reality is that these lower UC schools are getting excellent students so maybe they really belong in T30.
And they educate them like cattle, and with the exception of UCLA, provide no housing.
Wait. UCLA has had serious housing issues. Google it
They did, but they built more.
Just this year! After screams from students and parents about obscene rents and no promise of guaranteed housing. It was a series in the LA Times! UCLA has been scrambling ever since
!! March 17, 2022 the LA Times blared “Housing crisis for 16,000 at UCLA”!
No one can build that fast. Especially in Westwood. Also UCLA is landlocked. What the regents did was to spend the taxpayers money and try to find hotels and existing apartments wherever they could and crab kids in them make promises that some sort of “housing” would be assured
Unless you link the actual article, I believe you are confusing it with Berkeley or UCSB. Both of these campuses have major housing issues. UCLA has guaranteed 4 years of housing for at least 5 years now. You maybe in a cramped place but you will have place to live.
The article states 16,000 on housing waitlist across all UC and Cal State schools but UCLA only school to guarantee housing. Much different than what you are saying.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 01:28
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250
People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!
With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.
+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!
Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?
The reality is that these lower UC schools are getting excellent students so maybe they really belong in T30.
And they educate them like cattle, and with the exception of UCLA, provide no housing.
Wait. UCLA has had serious housing issues. Google it
They did, but they built more.
Just this year! After screams from students and parents about obscene rents and no promise of guaranteed housing. It was a series in the LA Times! UCLA has been scrambling ever since
!! March 17, 2022 the LA Times blared “Housing crisis for 16,000 at UCLA”!
No one can build that fast. Especially in Westwood. Also UCLA is landlocked. What the regents did was to spend the taxpayers money and try to find hotels and existing apartments wherever they could and crab kids in them make promises that some sort of “housing” would be assured
Unless you link the actual article, I believe you are confusing it with Berkeley or UCSB. Both of these campuses have major housing issues. UCLA has guaranteed 4 years of housing for at least 5 years now. You maybe in a cramped place but you will have place to live.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 01:21
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:rankings have jumped the shark. UCs are disgustingly overrated with their low compared to peers 4 year graduation rates and lackluster class sizes/“experience”. Their yield despite in state discounts speak to this.
They have excellent 6 year graduation rates, though. Not everything in life is a race.
Ah yes, social mobility when you have a bunch of students paying for 2 years of extra costs
Anonymous
09/18/2023 01:17
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:rankings have jumped the shark. UCs are disgustingly overrated with their low compared to peers 4 year graduation rates and lackluster class sizes/“experience”. Their yield despite in state discounts speak to this.
They have excellent 6 year graduation rates, though. Not everything in life is a race.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 01:12
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Northeastern drop from 44 to 53. Whoops.
Really? I wondered where the Northeastern booster was. How do you tell where a school dropped from (I was on the USNWR wensite but didn’t see how to access how to determine a ruse it drop)?
Anonymous
09/18/2023 01:12
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
rankings have jumped the shark. UCs are disgustingly overrated with their low compared to peers 4 year graduation rates and lackluster class sizes/“experience”. Their yield despite in state discounts speak to this.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 00:41
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am very nervous for WashU next year. Not looking good for them. Looking at the metrics there's not much they can improve on except social mobility and reputation scores. The harderst metrics to move.
WashU is in the top 25! Emory and CMU are not shabby peers. I don't see it as being below any arbitrary cutoff for great schools.
WashU doesn't have a brand like CMU does, and it's not in a great city like Emory, it NEEDS a higher ranking moreso than the other 2.
+1 it's concerning, there apps were already down this year.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 00:28
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am very nervous for WashU next year. Not looking good for them. Looking at the metrics there's not much they can improve on except social mobility and reputation scores. The harderst metrics to move.
WashU is in the top 25! Emory and CMU are not shabby peers. I don't see it as being below any arbitrary cutoff for great schools.
I know but is the Bleeding over if you fall 9 spots in 1 year?
All the moves by individual schools mean nothing thus year. US News got rid of the criteria I actually thought was important— class size, highest degree held by faculty, alumni engagement, class rank of incoming students (and decreased importanceof test scores). I guess it’s only fitting that the ratings now are solidly based on criteria other than objective measures of academic quality, mirroring the path admissions themselves has taken in the past few years.
This link has been shared here before, but: You can totally make your own list based on the data and other criteria that matter most to you. If you do, share it here!
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/blog/
Anonymous
09/18/2023 00:26
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am very nervous for WashU next year. Not looking good for them. Looking at the metrics there's not much they can improve on except social mobility and reputation scores. The harderst metrics to move.
WashU is in the top 25! Emory and CMU are not shabby peers. I don't see it as being below any arbitrary cutoff for great schools.
WashU doesn't have a brand like CMU does, and it's not in a great city like Emory, it NEEDS a higher ranking moreso than the other 2.