Anonymous
06/15/2023 21:04
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:This indeed has gotten unnecessarily ugly!
I take no glee in MV’s troubles. I do think that what you’re picking up among some current and former MV parents is years of frustration and exasperation with the executive leadership of the school. Our kids went to MV. We were a founding family. We put our time, hearts and resources into that school. We felt we were part of something special and that we all had a role to play in making it a success. I look back fondly on those first few years of MV. I’m not alone. It was a great community seeking to become larger and even better community.
In time, many parents came to feel duped, misled by executive leaders who covered up mistakes, distorted academic issues, misled parents, and ran off some amazing teachers.
It’s hard not to be emotional when it comes to your kids. The passion you’re hearing from parents isn’t glee; it’s catharsis. I believe every current and former MV parent wants the school to succeed, but we know it won’t without change. We hope (but remain skeptical) that this moment will bring about that change.
Not all that interested in listening to those who are here to judge other parents. We’re all trying to do what’s best for our kids. I appreciate those who have come here with empathy and a willingness to hear others out. Glad as well that some current MV parents have spoken up for the school. I may disagree but I think it points to something worth saving.
Very well said.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 20:54
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
It’s not a question of “saving” MV. It’s a school full of high SES with the resources to ensure their kids don’t fail and bomb the PARCC. The PCSB doesn’t touch those and the problems are deeper than just the ED. It’s going to turn into another SSMA or CMI cautionary tale, with a subset of parents willing to take it for DCI.
I hope I’m wrong, but I really don’t think I am.
I hope I’m wrong, but I really don’t think I am.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 20:45
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
This indeed has gotten unnecessarily ugly!
I take no glee in MV’s troubles. I do think that what you’re picking up among some current and former MV parents is years of frustration and exasperation with the executive leadership of the school. Our kids went to MV. We were a founding family. We put our time, hearts and resources into that school. We felt we were part of something special and that we all had a role to play in making it a success. I look back fondly on those first few years of MV. I’m not alone. It was a great community seeking to become larger and even better community.
In time, many parents came to feel duped, misled by executive leaders who covered up mistakes, distorted academic issues, misled parents, and ran off some amazing teachers.
It’s hard not to be emotional when it comes to your kids. The passion you’re hearing from parents isn’t glee; it’s catharsis. I believe every current and former MV parent wants the school to succeed, but we know it won’t without change. We hope (but remain skeptical) that this moment will bring about that change.
Not all that interested in listening to those who are here to judge other parents. We’re all trying to do what’s best for our kids. I appreciate those who have come here with empathy and a willingness to hear others out. Glad as well that some current MV parents have spoken up for the school. I may disagree but I think it points to something worth saving.
I take no glee in MV’s troubles. I do think that what you’re picking up among some current and former MV parents is years of frustration and exasperation with the executive leadership of the school. Our kids went to MV. We were a founding family. We put our time, hearts and resources into that school. We felt we were part of something special and that we all had a role to play in making it a success. I look back fondly on those first few years of MV. I’m not alone. It was a great community seeking to become larger and even better community.
In time, many parents came to feel duped, misled by executive leaders who covered up mistakes, distorted academic issues, misled parents, and ran off some amazing teachers.
It’s hard not to be emotional when it comes to your kids. The passion you’re hearing from parents isn’t glee; it’s catharsis. I believe every current and former MV parent wants the school to succeed, but we know it won’t without change. We hope (but remain skeptical) that this moment will bring about that change.
Not all that interested in listening to those who are here to judge other parents. We’re all trying to do what’s best for our kids. I appreciate those who have come here with empathy and a willingness to hear others out. Glad as well that some current MV parents have spoken up for the school. I may disagree but I think it points to something worth saving.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 20:29
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think it’s ultimately the public school charter board’s call but they have never done anything to help the children of DC. By the way, they get paid by the dc taxpayers for sitting on their hands.
As for the Mundo Board of trustees, they need to be publicly shamed into doing what’s right. From my experience the executive director and principals probably spend a huge amount of time badmouthing parents and dismissing the complaints. They cozy up to the Board and limit access by parents. You need to make it clear that there is no going back at this point. If the board won’t ensure kids get basic learning in classrooms they need to be shamed and exposed for their corrupt practices.
I totally agree. One of the lawyer parents at MV should see if there are grounds to start getting the Board (either Board) nervous that they have opened themselves up to legal liability. I have a friend who is a lawyer and defends corporate board members who get sued. It happens all the time. Even if the Board members have insurance, this would at least have a chance of getting their attention.
Having a class unattended for any part of PARCC—even not having a teacher there to read the directions—are a major violation. Teachers have gotten in hot water for way less than that. Even though the system-wide under-education of students and inexperienced staff members and turnover are the bigger issue, this lack of PARCC supervision could be like Nixon and the tapes. Or some other president and “his” boxes.
I recognize that I may seem mean-spirited, but my own child was being restrained by an aide because of his teacher’s chaotic classroom and the school’s inability to handle his reaction; I’ve had friends have their kids be shamed by inexperienced teachers, had them watch violence, and had their kids watch the police come to take away a sub who had put their hand on a kid. I know this happens in many schools across the country, but that doesn’t mean leadership should act like everything is great. It means the higher leadership should do something—and they never do. So if the PARCC situation finally gets them noticed by an oversight body, good.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 20:15
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:I think it’s ultimately the public school charter board’s call but they have never done anything to help the children of DC. By the way, they get paid by the dc taxpayers for sitting on their hands.
As for the Mundo Board of trustees, they need to be publicly shamed into doing what’s right. From my experience the executive director and principals probably spend a huge amount of time badmouthing parents and dismissing the complaints. They cozy up to the Board and limit access by parents. You need to make it clear that there is no going back at this point. If the board won’t ensure kids get basic learning in classrooms they need to be shamed and exposed for their corrupt practices.
I totally agree. One of the lawyer parents at MV should see if there are grounds to start getting the Board (either Board) nervous that they have opened themselves up to legal liability. I have a friend who is a lawyer and defends corporate board members who get sued. It happens all the time. Even if the Board members have insurance, this would at least have a chance of getting their attention.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 19:56
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.
Oyster has a mile long wait list.
Bancroft is nowhere near my house.
Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.
But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.
Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.
In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.
The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.
Wow, a day long multicultural celebration. It is a little embarrassing that you think this is enough for latino families.
NP but you know PP was using that as an example to counter your narrative that Latinos are treated poorly in DCPS schools. And perhaps one day is not enough for many cultures but at least it was celebrated.
Our family is West African- guess how many schools speak our tribe’s language? I don’t consider a multicultural celebration an embarrassment. We supplement in other ways outside of school. School can’t be everything to everyone.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 19:48
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
This got ugly, but I want to add that we were at Bruce Monroe for many years and it is bilingual and around 75% Latino. The Latino community is the focus of the school and central to the school community. Latino culture was infused in every part of the school and the administration did an amazing job of supporting those families. DCPS as a whole may be one thing, but there are schools that demonstrate their commitment to their families and cultural heritage exceptionally.
Frankly what I’ve seen in some LAMB and MV (and Oyster) families is xenophobia. They want to celebrate their Latino heritage as long as they’re surrounded by other educated Latinos. They don’t want their children with those other kinds of immigrants.
Frankly what I’ve seen in some LAMB and MV (and Oyster) families is xenophobia. They want to celebrate their Latino heritage as long as they’re surrounded by other educated Latinos. They don’t want their children with those other kinds of immigrants.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 18:57
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.
Oyster has a mile long wait list.
Bancroft is nowhere near my house.
Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.
But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.
Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.
In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.
The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.
What does this have to do with Mundo?
Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"
To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”
Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.
It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.
You are right. It is clear that these parents do not what their IB. They want Mundo and they are protesting because they want the school to improve.
Well, I do hope the school responds to the complaints and has the ability to correct them.
LOLOLOLOL If that were going to happen it would be happening already.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 18:56
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.
Oyster has a mile long wait list.
Bancroft is nowhere near my house.
Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.
But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.
Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.
In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.
The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.
What does this have to do with Mundo?
Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"
To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”
Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.
It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.
You are right. It is clear that these parents do not what their IB. They want Mundo and they are protesting because they want the school to improve.
Well, I do hope the school responds to the complaints and has the ability to correct them.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 18:52
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.
Oyster has a mile long wait list.
Bancroft is nowhere near my house.
Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.
But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.
Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.
In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.
The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.
What does this have to do with Mundo?
Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"
To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”
Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.
It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.
You are right. It is clear that these parents do not what their IB. They want Mundo and they are protesting because they want the school to improve.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 18:46
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Also Oysters waitlist for Spanish Dominant families is not insurmountable. Every family I know who applied that way out of bounds got in.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 18:45
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.
Oyster has a mile long wait list.
Bancroft is nowhere near my house.
Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.
But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.
Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.
In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.
The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.
What does this have to do with Mundo?
Responding to the person who thinks DCPS "treats Latinos like garbage"
To be clear the response was “there is a multicultural day and that is the same as learning the language of your family”
Then more glee about schoolchildren losing their community and not getting a good education.
It's not glee..but this is a charter school. Every parent has the option to walk into their IB school with a proof of address at any moment, and their child will be educated. So that reality is underlying the protest -- that is their option.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 18:43
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.
Oyster has a mile long wait list.
Bancroft is nowhere near my house.
Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.
But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.
Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.
In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.
The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.
Wow, a day long multicultural celebration. It is a little embarrassing that you think this is enough for latino families.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 18:35
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Spend some time at oyster or Bancroft, or at highly Latino DCPS schools like Seaton. All kinds of Latino families (working class, middle class, and wealthy) and they are happy.
Oyster has a mile long wait list.
Bancroft is nowhere near my house.
Season isn’t much better than Mundo and is not bilingual.
But to you we should be happy to be educated right? Brown is brown.
Lady, I'm a brown person, and my two kids go to Seaton. We've been there for years. Yesterday, we had a day-long multicultural celebration where each class celebrated a different culture where at least one student from the class had a family heritage. El Salvador, Haiti, Mexico, the DR, china, many many many more -- families brought food, kids dressed up, everyone was beaming all day long.
In addition to that, we have an ESL teacher ( a fully qualified master degree having teacher) attached to every grade to make sure that all the ESL kids are thriving. This is in addition to the fully qualified homeroom teachers for ELA and Math.
The principal and AP are both Latino and all correspondence/meetings/events are bilingual.
What does this have to do with Mundo?
Seaton is not bilingual but I guess if you want to preserve your heritage a single multicultural day should be sufficient according to some poster above.
Also what does this have to do with the problems at Mundo? A lot of lottery losers have an axe to grind.
Well you were right- Mundo has big problems. Now is a time to solve it and push for good schools for everyone.
Tough talk for a school that clears its waitlists above PK.
You’re absolutely right. But at least I’m not holding a 8 year grudge.
What makes you think I ever applied? Sorry but I saw through this the moment I ran a test scores vs demographic comparison in my PK3 lottery spreadsheet.
Anonymous
06/15/2023 18:34
Subject: Protest at Mundo on P street
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If Mundo's really the only school in the city where Latino families are respected, why is it having a hard time filling seats? I would think people would want to attend...
No one said it was the only school where this but why are you so happy to lose a good option?
Personally, I'm not happy that Mundo is flailing. But I disagree that it's a good option. Terrible academic performance (relative to demographics) and terrible management. I've thought this for years and I'm happy that people are finally opening their eyes to the reality, even if it's hard.
I firmly believe that the fundamental commitment of charter schools-- that low performance means closure-- isn't just for kids east of the river. We seldom see closure of higher-income schools, because it takes an awful lot of malpractice to get there, but the rules are the rules. It shouldn't be something we only do to poor communities.