Anonymous
Post 06/06/2023 08:39     Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'll confess to not reading the entire thread but jumped in on pg. 14, not 16. Just saw the news on the crash site. The plane was ...descimated. There were no plane-like parts to be recognized.

I think it was shot down. If it was, will we ever know?

It was not shot down. The DoD is saying it did not shoot the plane down, and the owner/victim's father/grandfather confirmed that it wouldn't have had enough fuel to make a complete return to Tennessee, which tracks with it crashing just NE of the town in TN where it took off.


The DoD also said it was doing training over the Chesapeake Bay and the pilot was given the all clear to break the sound barrier - about an hour before the news story about the plane came out. I wouldn't take any story the DoD throws out at face value.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2023 08:37     Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:^^ why did it disintegrate when other planes crash and parts are still recognizable?

Where are you getting that it disintegrated? I saw that they are taking larger parts to a secure facility in Delaware to complete the investigation. Sadly, they also found human remains.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2023 08:35     Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:I'll confess to not reading the entire thread but jumped in on pg. 14, not 16. Just saw the news on the crash site. The plane was ...descimated. There were no plane-like parts to be recognized.

I think it was shot down. If it was, will we ever know?


That seems a strange choice to shoot it down there rather than somewhere else. Also the debris would be different, more scattered, if it had been shot down, wouldn't it?

Planes don't normally carry twice as much fuel as needed for a trip. It didn't have enough fuel to go from TN to NY and then back to TN without refueling.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2023 08:35     Subject: What was the big boom?
^^ why did it disintegrate when other planes crash and parts are still recognizable?
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2023 08:31     Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:I'll confess to not reading the entire thread but jumped in on pg. 14, not 16. Just saw the news on the crash site. The plane was ...descimated. There were no plane-like parts to be recognized.

I think it was shot down. If it was, will we ever know?

It was not shot down. The DoD is saying it did not shoot the plane down, and the owner/victim's father/grandfather confirmed that it wouldn't have had enough fuel to make a complete return to Tennessee, which tracks with it crashing just NE of the town in TN where it took off.
Anonymous
Post 06/06/2023 08:30     Subject: What was the big boom?
I'll confess to not reading the entire thread but jumped in on pg. 14, not 16. Just saw the news on the crash site. The plane was ...descimated. There were no plane-like parts to be recognized.

I think it was shot down. If it was, will we ever know?
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 23:17     Subject: What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:1) I didn't hear the sonic boom (live in Fairfax) and am questioning my hearing
2) This reinforces why I will never fly on a private plan (as if that was an option for me to begin with...)
3) I get it, Trump is awful but I wish the news would not focus so much on the bereaved parents' political affiliations...not really the time
4) I'm curious how you adopt someone who is a grown adult. Is it just symbolic, or was there actually a legal adoption? This also makes me curious about her family of origin as she went to a $$$$$$ NYC private school
5) What a sad story overall

1. I live in Woodley Park and posted yesterday, didn't hear or feel a thing. However, the plane flew right over my house, in looking at the flight map, which is eerie.

3. ITA, think it is totally gross to constantly mention that the parents are MAGA/NRA donors. Who cares?

4. I am curious about this too. I get that they adopted her because she reminded them of their late dd, but I am not sure what makes a 40yo adult woman agree to be adopted by a couple she didn't grow up with. Not judging her, it sounds like they were a chosen family which is lovely, but just curious. Wonder if she didn't get along with her bio parents or if they were deceased or what?
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 23:10     Subject: What was the big boom?
1) I didn't hear the sonic boom (live in Fairfax) and am questioning my hearing
2) This reinforces why I will never fly on a private plan (as if that was an option for me to begin with...)
3) I get it, Trump is awful but I wish the news would not focus so much on the bereaved parents' political affiliations...not really the time
4) I'm curious how you adopt someone who is a grown adult. Is it just symbolic, or was there actually a legal adoption? This also makes me curious about her family of origin as she went to a $$$$$$ NYC private school
5) What a sad story overall
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 23:08     Subject: Re:What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:According to ANC News, it was a small plane carrying family of three (husband was piloting) and their nanny. The FAA launched fighter jets and witnessed the pilot slumped over at the controls of the plane.

Fighter jets were deployed and attempted to get the attention of others on the plane. To no avail. They continued to flank the plane, which is believed to have been on auto pilot, until it slammed into a mountain in Virginia.

That was the sonic boom that you all heard. All four people perished.

No way???? Absolutely no news agency has reported the source of the sonic boom. I am so glad you were here to explain it to us.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 23:05     Subject: Re:What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:According to ANC News, it was a small plane carrying family of three (husband was piloting) and their nanny. The FAA launched fighter jets and witnessed the pilot slumped over at the controls of the plane.

Fighter jets were deployed and attempted to get the attention of others on the plane. To no avail. They continued to flank the plane, which is believed to have been on auto pilot, until it slammed into a mountain in Virginia.

That was the sonic boom that you all heard. All four people perished.

The pilot was not the dh. His name was Jeff Hefner and he was the owner's pilot of about five years. He was not married to the woman on the plane, who was the owner's adult daughter.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 23:04     Subject: Re:What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:According to ANC News, it was a small plane carrying family of three (husband was piloting) and their nanny. The FAA launched fighter jets and witnessed the pilot slumped over at the controls of the plane.

Fighter jets were deployed and attempted to get the attention of others on the plane. To no avail. They continued to flank the plane, which is believed to have been on auto pilot, until it slammed into a mountain in Virginia.

That was the sonic boom that you all heard. All four people perished.

I love that you hopped in on page 16 to state things that have been discussed for multiple pages…

Same lmfao. And then gave completely incorrect information about the family.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 23:04     Subject: Re:What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:According to ANC News, it was a small plane carrying family of three (husband was piloting) and their nanny. The FAA launched fighter jets and witnessed the pilot slumped over at the controls of the plane.

Fighter jets were deployed and attempted to get the attention of others on the plane. To no avail. They continued to flank the plane, which is believed to have been on auto pilot, until it slammed into a mountain in Virginia.

That was the sonic boom that you all heard. All four people perished.

1. Yes, Gladys, we all know by now that that was the sonic boom we heard. We established that about eight pages ago. Please try to keep up.

2. It was not a family of four. The dd of the owners was unmarried and had conceived her dd through donor sperm/IVF.

Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 23:01     Subject: Re:What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:According to ANC News, it was a small plane carrying family of three (husband was piloting) and their nanny. The FAA launched fighter jets and witnessed the pilot slumped over at the controls of the plane.

Fighter jets were deployed and attempted to get the attention of others on the plane. To no avail. They continued to flank the plane, which is believed to have been on auto pilot, until it slammed into a mountain in Virginia.

That was the sonic boom that you all heard. All four people perished.

I love that you hopped in on page 16 to state things that have been discussed for multiple pages…
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 22:49     Subject: Re:What was the big boom?
According to ANC News, it was a small plane carrying family of three (husband was piloting) and their nanny. The FAA launched fighter jets and witnessed the pilot slumped over at the controls of the plane.

Fighter jets were deployed and attempted to get the attention of others on the plane. To no avail. They continued to flank the plane, which is believed to have been on auto pilot, until it slammed into a mountain in Virginia.

That was the sonic boom that you all heard. All four people perished.
Anonymous
Post 06/05/2023 21:39     Subject: Re:What was the big boom?
Anonymous wrote:WaPo reporting that the woman that was killed was adopted by this family 9 years ago at age 40. That’s unusual.


For Rumpel, who retired from flying 30 years ago, the purpose of the small planes was to bring his family together. That had been a chief priority in his life ever since he lost his first daughter, Victoria, in a scuba diving accident when she was 19 years old.
Years later, Rumpel said he met a woman who reminded him exactly of his daughter. It was Azarian, a real estate agent in New York. After they got to know her, Rumpel and his wife decided to adopt her when she was 40 years old.

“They had the same fire in their bellies, and they were loving, caring children,” Rumpel said of Victoria and Azarian, 49. “We had no one else, and we loved her.”

Rumpel said Azarian wanted nothing more than to be a mom herself, and he watched her go through a years-long in vitro fertilization process to become pregnant with her daughter. He described Azarian as the best mother he had ever seen.

Photos on Azarian’s Facebook show her and Aria in matching dresses, kissing on the lips and dressed up together on Mother’s Day. In Facebook posts, friends described her as a “beloved part of the NY real estate community” and a “devoted mother.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2023/06/05/virginia-cessna-plane-crash-victims/