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Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.

So, if two politicians both like gin over bourban, that makes them the same?

Have you any idea how many Americans have visited the Eagle's Nest? I don't think you know much about it.

Holy moly. That you liken the politics of hate that Cawthorn, Crow and Thomas have in common to sharing a love of particular booze does not recommend your argument to be taken seriously. I don’t think you know much about anything.

Seriously, I don’t think you know anything. Here’s beloved travel writer Rick Steves on the Eagle’s Nest: https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/read/articles/hitlers-eagles-nest-at-berchtesgaden There are many, many places to take in the awesome views of the Alps. To visit this one specific place? You’re going for WWII history. Add in fascist politics? You’re going to see Hitler’s mountaintop aerie.

DP. You're not making whatever point you think you are. I read Steves' review of the area, and nowhere does he say it's a terrible place to visit, don't go, if you go you are a Nazi, etc. In fact, this is what he says about it:

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I’m sorry, I have to laugh at your inability to form an argument. I’d didn’t say he said any of those things. I said that if you go there, you’re going for the WWII history. And then you reinforced what I wrote.

Clarence Thomas is a slow witted and corrupt person who shouldn’t have been nominated. Like some slimy influencer, he’s taken loads of gifts in exchange for no one quite knows. And it just so happens that the person from whom he takes all these gifts is equally crap. I haven’t seen a single Republican say this is bad.

It is JUSTICE Thomas, to you, friend.
Your opinion of him couldn't matter in the least.
His command of the law and our Constitution are impressive. As is his sense of humor and his ability to treat people kindly... unlike you.

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor spoke highly of colleague Justice Clarence Thomas during an event on Thursday, saying, “He is a man who cares deeply about the court as an institution.”
Sotomayor, who is liberal, acknowledged during remarks at the American Constitution Society that while she often disagrees with the conservative justice, she believes that “we share a common understanding about people and kindness towards them”

“Justice Thomas is the one justice in the building that literally knows every employee’s name, every one of them. And not only does he know their names, he remembers their families’ names and histories,” she said.
“He’s the first one who will go up to someone when you’re walking with him and say, ‘Is your son okay? How’s your daughter doing in college?’ He’s the first one that, when my stepfather died, sent me flowers in Florida,” she added.

https://thehill.com/regulation/3526826-sotomayor-praises-clarence-thomas-he-is-a-man-who-cares-deeply-about-the-court-as-an-institution/

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Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.

So, if two politicians both like gin over bourban, that makes them the same?

Have you any idea how many Americans have visited the Eagle's Nest? I don't think you know much about it.

Holy moly. That you liken the politics of hate that Cawthorn, Crow and Thomas have in common to sharing a love of particular booze does not recommend your argument to be taken seriously. I don’t think you know much about anything.

Seriously, I don’t think you know anything. Here’s beloved travel writer Rick Steves on the Eagle’s Nest: https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/read/articles/hitlers-eagles-nest-at-berchtesgaden There are many, many places to take in the awesome views of the Alps. To visit this one specific place? You’re going for WWII history. Add in fascist politics? You’re going to see Hitler’s mountaintop aerie.

DP. You're not making whatever point you think you are. I read Steves' review of the area, and nowhere does he say it's a terrible place to visit, don't go, if you go you are a Nazi, etc. In fact, this is what he says about it:

[…]

I’m sorry, I have to laugh at your inability to form an argument. I’d didn’t say he said any of those things. I said that if you go there, you’re going for the WWII history. And then you reinforced what I wrote.

Clarence Thomas is a slow witted and corrupt person who shouldn’t have been nominated. Like some slimy influencer, he’s taken loads of gifts in exchange for no one quite knows. And it just so happens that the person from whom he takes all these gifts is equally crap. I haven’t seen a single Republican say this is bad.

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Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.

So, if two politicians both like gin over bourban, that makes them the same?

Have you any idea how many Americans have visited the Eagle's Nest? I don't think you know much about it.

Holy moly. That you liken the politics of hate that Cawthorn, Crow and Thomas have in common to sharing a love of particular booze does not recommend your argument to be taken seriously. I don’t think you know much about anything.

Seriously, I don’t think you know anything. Here’s beloved travel writer Rick Steves on the Eagle’s Nest: https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/read/articles/hitlers-eagles-nest-at-berchtesgaden There are many, many places to take in the awesome views of the Alps. To visit this one specific place? You’re going for WWII history. Add in fascist politics? You’re going to see Hitler’s mountaintop aerie.

DP. You're not making whatever point you think you are. I read Steves' review of the area, and nowhere does he say it's a terrible place to visit, don't go, if you go you are a Nazi, etc. In fact, this is what he says about it:

"While for many modern visitors "Berchtesgaden" is synonymous with "Hitler's Eagle's Nest," "the Eagle's Nest" actually refers just to this small lodge itself, perched alone amid spectacular scenery like a Bond villain's lair. Built in 1939 with precision stonework evoking fascist obedience, it was Hitler's 50th birthday gift from his inner circle. The lodge and the road up to it cost a fortune — but Hitler, who was afraid of heights, visited only 14 times. (It wasn't even much of a lodge: While Nazi officials met and hosted visiting diplomats here — and Eva Braun was fond of sunbathing on the terrace — it never had any beds.)

Today, the chalet that Hitler ignored is basically a three-room, reasonably priced restaurant with little in the way of artifacts, and views that are often obscured by fog. On nice days, however, the terrace offers a magnificent panorama, and the tunnel, elevator, and mountain road — Germany's highest — that lead to the Eagle's Nest are dramatic in any weather.

For many, however, Obersalzberg's vast bunker system is the more fascinating part of a visit. This professionally engineered underground town held meeting rooms, offices, government archives, and lavish living quarters for Hitler — all connected by four miles of tunnels cut, by slave labor, through solid rock. You can't visit all of it, and what you can see was stripped and looted bare by Allied soldiers. But enough is left that you can wander among the concrete and marvel at megalomania gone mad."

I've visited it and it was, indeed, fascinating.

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Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.

So, if two politicians both like gin over bourban, that makes them the same?

Have you any idea how many Americans have visited the Eagle's Nest? I don't think you know much about it.

I've visited Ausschwitz. Did not buy souvenirs, did not frame any photos taken on that day. Visiting a evil site isn’t the same as collecting things belonging to perpetrators of evil and displaying them in your home.

And everyone must do exactly as you do and react exactly as you do to be right and good thinking. All makes sense now.

Hit a nerve eh?

DP. You're making a fool of yourself. Visiting a *concentration camp* is not the same thing as visiting Eagle's Nest. Both are sobering experiences, but they are in no way comparable. You can climb on down off your high horse of virtue now.

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Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.

So, if two politicians both like gin over bourban, that makes them the same?

Have you any idea how many Americans have visited the Eagle's Nest? I don't think you know much about it.

+1
We lived in Germany for a couple of years when my parents were stationed there (we're Americans). We took a family trip to see Eagle's Nest. It's part of history, not to mention in an astoundingly beautiful area. Honestly, the hysterics on this thread are really something to behold.

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Anonymous wrote:

Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.

So, if two politicians both like gin over bourban, that makes them the same?

Have you any idea how many Americans have visited the Eagle's Nest? I don't think you know much about it.

Holy moly. That you liken the politics of hate that Cawthorn, Crow and Thomas have in common to sharing a love of particular booze does not recommend your argument to be taken seriously. I don’t think you know much about anything.

Seriously, I don’t think you know anything. Here’s beloved travel writer Rick Steves on the Eagle’s Nest: https://www.ricksteves.com/watch-read-listen/read/articles/hitlers-eagles-nest-at-berchtesgaden There are many, many places to take in the awesome views of the Alps. To visit this one specific place? You’re going for WWII history. Add in fascist politics? You’re going to see Hitler’s mountaintop aerie.

Anonymous wrote:As true today as it was then.....

He was not being persecuted. He had a grueling reprehensible history of harassment. He should not have been put on the bunch.

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much wrong with this:
So many gifts: travel gifts, non-travel gifts (like the Frederick Douglass Bible), honorary gifts (the library wing), gift to his wife's group (donation).....
And Harlen is a collector of Hitler and Nazi memorabilia - and he displays it - in his home. Not to mention he's got statues of modern baddies that were once toppled by citizens and moved (I saw the word 'smuggled' used) to his backyard.
Then there's the crazy wife who buys into conspiracy theories and the 'election was stolen' lie.

Clarence Thomas does not have the ethical conscience and morality required to sit on the Supreme Court. His closest friends and family aren't mere Republican supporters. They are extremists.

You do know that after WWII, lots of people displayed Nazi memorabilia as trophies of victory. It is not unusual for that to occur in wars. Japanese swords, hats, etc, were also trophies. It does not mean he admires Nazis. You are really grasping here.

Gee, and the horrors of donating money to libraries in poor communities. How awful!

Nope, my dad brought home memorabilia from Nazi Germany and I destroyed it after he died, in order that people like Cox would.not be able to get their hands on it to glorify racism with their display. Like Cox.

The people displaying this now are likely fascists, not the brave men who fought against fascism.

It's telling republicans are beholden to these guys.

Just because YOU chose to do this, doesn't mean everyone does.
My dad had a pistol with a swastika carved in it. A member of the family still has it. We are not Nazis.

are you sure

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Anonymous wrote:

Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.

So, if two politicians both like gin over bourban, that makes them the same?

Have you any idea how many Americans have visited the Eagle's Nest? I don't think you know much about it.

I've visited Ausschwitz. Did not buy souvenirs, did not frame any photos taken on that day. Visiting a evil site isn’t the same as collecting things belonging to perpetrators of evil and displaying them in your home.

And everyone must do exactly as you do and react exactly as you do to be right and good thinking. All makes sense now.

Hit a nerve eh?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.

So, if two politicians both like gin over bourban, that makes them the same?

Have you any idea how many Americans have visited the Eagle's Nest? I don't think you know much about it.

I've visited Ausschwitz. Did not buy souvenirs, did not frame any photos taken on that day. Visiting a evil site isn’t the same as collecting things belonging to perpetrators of evil and displaying them in your home.

And everyone must do exactly as you do and react exactly as you do to be right and good thinking. All makes sense now.

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Anonymous wrote:

Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.

So, if two politicians both like gin over bourban, that makes them the same?

Have you any idea how many Americans have visited the Eagle's Nest? I don't think you know much about it.

I've visited Ausschwitz. Did not buy souvenirs, did not frame any photos taken on that day. Visiting a evil site isn’t the same as collecting things belonging to perpetrators of evil and displaying them in your home.

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much wrong with this:
So many gifts: travel gifts, non-travel gifts (like the Frederick Douglass Bible), honorary gifts (the library wing), gift to his wife's group (donation).....
And Harlen is a collector of Hitler and Nazi memorabilia - and he displays it - in his home. Not to mention he's got statues of modern baddies that were once toppled by citizens and moved (I saw the word 'smuggled' used) to his backyard.
Then there's the crazy wife who buys into conspiracy theories and the 'election was stolen' lie.

Clarence Thomas does not have the ethical conscience and morality required to sit on the Supreme Court. His closest friends and family aren't mere Republican supporters. They are extremists.

You do know that after WWII, lots of people displayed Nazi memorabilia as trophies of victory. It is not unusual for that to occur in wars. Japanese swords, hats, etc, were also trophies. It does not mean he admires Nazis. You are really grasping here.


Gee, and the horrors of donating money to libraries in poor communities. How awful!

"Lots of people" were NOT displaying Nazi memorabilia as trophies of victory! That is complete garbage. Winning a sword in sword fight is different than displaying Nazi propaganda and the horrible symbol of hate that the Nazis displayed everywhere as they took over countries. I have Jewish relatives who fought in WWII and Jewish relatives who were killed in the Holocaust because they were Jews. And not one of them, and I could probably speak for 99% of Jews everywhere, would EVER EVER display Nazi memorabilia as a trophy of victory. So take your insane comments and go tell them to your stuffed animals. Because no one else believes your crap trying to justify this despicable human piece of garbage.

Thank you for bringing some sanity to this conversation.

https://forward.com/fast-forward/416696/jews-are-buying-nazi-memorabilia-sold-by-families-of-deceased-wwii-vets/

“That’s the argument we get a lot, that [military items] should be in a museum and it shouldn’t be in private hands,” said Mr. Combs, who has been involved in his organization since 1971 when he was a 15-year-old member. “But all the museums in the world don’t have enough space for all the historic military items out there. And all honest museum directors will admit to you that they rely heavily on private collectors because those are the people with the passion and the interest and the knowledge to preserve that history.”

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/faith-religion/2019/01/07/Anti-Semitic-Nazi-sale-Pittsburgh-artifacts-Jewish-German-propaganda/stories/201901050011

I think sane people realize that Nazi “memorabilia” is on a different level from garden variety military stuff. It’s creepy to have a room displaying Nazi stuff. Creepy and repellent.

Says you. And because the great you says so, it must be true for all!

Well clearly there are people like you who salivate over Nazi memorabilia and would love to be able to have some hanging in their house to look at every day. You do you. Jawohl!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.

So, if two politicians both like gin over bourban, that makes them the same?

Have you any idea how many Americans have visited the Eagle's Nest? I don't think you know much about it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's so much wrong with this:
So many gifts: travel gifts, non-travel gifts (like the Frederick Douglass Bible), honorary gifts (the library wing), gift to his wife's group (donation).....
And Harlen is a collector of Hitler and Nazi memorabilia - and he displays it - in his home. Not to mention he's got statues of modern baddies that were once toppled by citizens and moved (I saw the word 'smuggled' used) to his backyard.
Then there's the crazy wife who buys into conspiracy theories and the 'election was stolen' lie.

Clarence Thomas does not have the ethical conscience and morality required to sit on the Supreme Court. His closest friends and family aren't mere Republican supporters. They are extremists.

You do know that after WWII, lots of people displayed Nazi memorabilia as trophies of victory. It is not unusual for that to occur in wars. Japanese swords, hats, etc, were also trophies. It does not mean he admires Nazis. You are really grasping here.


Gee, and the horrors of donating money to libraries in poor communities. How awful!

"Lots of people" were NOT displaying Nazi memorabilia as trophies of victory! That is complete garbage. Winning a sword in sword fight is different than displaying Nazi propaganda and the horrible symbol of hate that the Nazis displayed everywhere as they took over countries. I have Jewish relatives who fought in WWII and Jewish relatives who were killed in the Holocaust because they were Jews. And not one of them, and I could probably speak for 99% of Jews everywhere, would EVER EVER display Nazi memorabilia as a trophy of victory. So take your insane comments and go tell them to your stuffed animals. Because no one else believes your crap trying to justify this despicable human piece of garbage.

Thank you for bringing some sanity to this conversation.

https://forward.com/fast-forward/416696/jews-are-buying-nazi-memorabilia-sold-by-families-of-deceased-wwii-vets/

“That’s the argument we get a lot, that [military items] should be in a museum and it shouldn’t be in private hands,” said Mr. Combs, who has been involved in his organization since 1971 when he was a 15-year-old member. “But all the museums in the world don’t have enough space for all the historic military items out there. And all honest museum directors will admit to you that they rely heavily on private collectors because those are the people with the passion and the interest and the knowledge to preserve that history.”

https://www.post-gazette.com/news/faith-religion/2019/01/07/Anti-Semitic-Nazi-sale-Pittsburgh-artifacts-Jewish-German-propaganda/stories/201901050011

I think sane people realize that Nazi “memorabilia” is on a different level from garden variety military stuff. It’s creepy to have a room displaying Nazi stuff. Creepy and repellent.

Says you. And because the great you says so, it must be true for all!

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Putting them on display in the dining room is weeeeeird. Like Madison Cawthorn visiting the Eagle’s Nest as one of his bucket list items weird

Madison Cawthorn may be weird--but wanting to visit the Eagle's Nest is not weird. It is absolutely not a shrine to Hitler as you seem to think.

It has a phenomenal view and is an engineering feat. It is not a Hitler museum. After WWII until after the wall fell, Berchtesgaden had US hotels in the area for American soldiers. Hotels that were won from Hitler. Kind of satisfying to think that he lost so badly that his enemies were living in his holiday spaces.

Look at the context of Cawthorn’s politics (and Crow’s) and tell me that. That’s what you’re missing.